Re: [Discussion] Release Artefacts

2009-02-18 Thread Andrea Gazzarini
Hi Martin, "Management - Eclipse JMX Console + Win + Linux + OS X - JMX Command LIne Tool - QMan - WsDmAdapter" I already started a discussion with Rajith (QPID-1619) about that (moreless). Concerning QMan artifacts I think that it would make sense to distribute only one item : QMan :) I

[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (QPID-1648) Enable live reconfiguration of Log4J settings for the Java broker via JMX

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Gemmell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1648?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12674819#action_12674819 ] gemmellr edited comment on QPID-1648 at 2/18/09 4:25 PM: --- I at

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rafael Schloming
David Ingham wrote: Hi Rafael, I think that the spec extract that you quote is addressing a different issue from how I understood Rajith's original ask. It's actually from the javadoc for MessageConsumer.setMessageListener(), not the spec. I wouldn't be surprised if the spec had more explici

[jira] Updated: (QPID-1648) Enable live reconfiguration of Log4J settings for the Java broker via JMX

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Gemmell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1648?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Gemmell updated QPID-1648: - Attachment: QPID-1648_18feb2009.patch I attach QPID-1648_18feb2009.patch to replace QPID-1648_6feb

[jira] Updated: (QPID-1648) Enable live reconfiguration of Log4J settings for the Java broker via JMX

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Gemmell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1648?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Gemmell updated QPID-1648: - Attachment: (was: QPID-1648_6feb2009.patch) > Enable live reconfiguration of Log4J settings fo

[jira] Updated: (QPID-1537) Version the MBeans so we can maintain backward compatibility with new features

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Gemmell (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1537?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Gemmell updated QPID-1537: - Attachment: QPID-1537_18feb2009.patch I attach QPID-1537_18feb2009.patch, which reinstates the MBe

Re: svn commit: r745677 - /qpid/branches/cmake/

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Steve, I take it form this you are having a hack a cmake build want does it look like, or is it to early to know? Carl. shus...@apache.org wrote: Author: shuston Date: Wed Feb 18 22:25:16 2009 New Revision: 745677 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=745677&view=rev Log: Branch to w

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Joshua Kramer
AclModule (which is pluggable). Can that not be implemented as a call to security_compute_av? yea, I think we might have enough abstraction. We might need to add a map of IDs to the object list for SELinux. If that is needed I can volunteer to do That's what I was thinking, as I took a loo

[jira] Commented: (QPID-1666) Refactor PollableQueue and PollableCondition to allow porting

2009-02-18 Thread Alan Conway (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1666?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12674808#action_12674808 ] Alan Conway commented on QPID-1666: --- Fiddling complete, the simpler version didn't work ou

[jira] Commented: (QPID-1666) Refactor PollableQueue and PollableCondition to allow porting

2009-02-18 Thread Steve Huston (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1666?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12674793#action_12674793 ] Steve Huston commented on QPID-1666: Thanks for the feedback, Alan. I added disarm()/rea

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rafael Schloming
Rajith Attapattu wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: Rajith Attapattu wrote: Aidan, I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. Basically I did the following. create connection start the connection create a session create a destinati

Re: [c++] boolean options for qpidd

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
Gordon Sim wrote: Jonathan Robie wrote: Sometimes you think of a third possibility. I would rather change --auth (yes | no) to --auth (yes | no | permissive | inherit) than change: --no-auth to --no-auth | --auth | --permissive-auth | --inherit-auth So I prefer the "--keyword value" fo

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rafael Schloming
Aidan Skinner wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: Rajith Attapattu wrote: Aidan, I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. Basically I did the following. create connection start the connection create a session create a destination

RE: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread David Ingham
Hi Rafael, I think that the spec extract that you quote is addressing a different issue from how I understood Rajith's original ask. I believe that the extract you quote below is talking about what happens when I consume messages via different routes from the same MessageConsumer. That is, if

Re: [c++] boolean options for qpidd

2009-02-18 Thread Gordon Sim
Jonathan Robie wrote: Sometimes you think of a third possibility. I would rather change --auth (yes | no) to --auth (yes | no | permissive | inherit) than change: --no-auth to --no-auth | --auth | --permissive-auth | --inherit-auth So I prefer the "--keyword value" format for extensibil

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: > Rajith Attapattu wrote: >> >> Aidan, >> >> I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. >> Basically I did the following. >> >> create connection >> start the connection >> create a session >> create a destina

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: > Rajith Attapattu wrote: >> >> Aidan, >> >> I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. >> Basically I did the following. >> >> create connection >> start the connection >> create a session >> create a destin

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Jim, Thanks Carl. Jim Jagielski wrote: Yep. It's there. I'll have Marvin send a reminder for next month but I'll simply cut/paste your report in, so no need for you to resubmit. On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Thanks, I also Re: ed the mail on the board list Carl. Jim J

Re: [c++] boolean options for qpidd

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
Gordon Sim wrote: Does anyone have a strong view on the desirability of making this more consistent? Consistency really makes it easier to remember these things. I myself have a slight preference for --no-auth over --auth no; I'm less bothered about the --mgmt-enable option but that could be

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > Joshua Kramer wrote: >> >> Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list. After >> looking over the SELinux documentation and some other resources, here's what >> I've found. >> >> There are a couple of ways we can go about

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
Yep. It's there. I'll have Marvin send a reminder for next month but I'll simply cut/paste your report in, so no need for you to resubmit. On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Thanks, I also Re: ed the mail on the board list Carl. Jim Jagielski wrote: Let me look... it's not in

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Gordon Sim wrote: Joshua Kramer wrote: Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list. After looking over the SELinux documentation and some other resources, here's what I've found. There are a couple of ways we can go about this. The first way, is to use pseudo-conte

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Gordon Sim
Joshua Kramer wrote: Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list. After looking over the SELinux documentation and some other resources, here's what I've found. There are a couple of ways we can go about this. The first way, is to use pseudo-contexts to load ACL's s

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Joshua, I don't think getting SELinux into the broker directly is a good option. My preference is to have SELinux as an ACL pluggin. As indicated above, there seems to be interest in using 3rd party ACL mechanisms to manage access control. I certainly think it's worth the effort to figure out wha

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carl Trieloff wrote: > > Josh, > > I have copied Dan, I can comment on the ACL side for Qpid... ... I'll > leave the SELinux side to Dan. > > Carl. > > > Joshua Kramer wrote: >> >> Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list.

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rafael Schloming
Rajith Attapattu wrote: Aidan, I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. Basically I did the following. create connection start the connection create a session create a destination, using that create a MC and a MP. set a MessageListener to the MC. send messages

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Josh, I have copied Dan, I can comment on the ACL side for Qpid... ... I'll leave the SELinux side to Dan. Carl. Joshua Kramer wrote: Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list. After looking over the SELinux documentation and some other resources, here's what I'v

[c++] boolean options for qpidd

2009-02-18 Thread Gordon Sim
We have two forms in use for boolean options to qpidd. The first form is where the presence of an option implies that its value is true. E.g. --no-module-dir --no-data-dir --tcp-nodelay --require-encryption -t --trace -d --daemon -c --check -q --quit -h --help The second is wh

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Aidan, I came across this when I wrote a simple test to figure out another issue. Basically I did the following. create connection start the connection create a session create a destination, using that create a MC and a MP. set a MessageListener to the MC. send messages using MP. When the sessio

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Martin, comments/answers inline/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Martin Ritchie wrote: > Rajith, > Do you have a test case that shows the dispatcher not starting on the > setting of a message listener after connection start? I don't have a test as part of the automated test suite. I wrote up a

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Sally Khudairi
Thanks, Carl. Wow -- this is really thorough! I'll run through this and forward suggested edits, if any. We'll also need a few days to review it within the PRC; hopefully it can be announced early next week. Cheers, Sally --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Carl Trieloff wrote: > From: Carl Trieloff > Su

Re: [Discussion] Release Artefacts

2009-02-18 Thread Rafael Schloming
Martin Ritchie wrote: Hello, I thought it best if we discuss what we are looking to release as artefacts for the upcoming release. Let me start with what I think we should be releasing with my reasons and we can see what the general view is. Starting with the source packages that we should be

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Joshua Kramer
Hey, that'd be great! I may also post to the SELinux mailing list. After looking over the SELinux documentation and some other resources, here's what I've found. There are a couple of ways we can go about this. The first way, is to use pseudo-contexts to load ACL's stored in SELinux into

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Thanks, I also Re: ed the mail on the board list Carl. Jim Jagielski wrote: Let me look... it's not in the agenda... On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Maybe in the release we can also note that they missed this month's board report *snicker* *duck* J

Re: License Compatibility: Google vs. Apache

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
ASF Legal Requesting a quick clarification from the legal list. It is thought that the Google license being a basic BSD is a class one license for Apache. Can we confirm that we can use the license below (from Google) in an Apache project. thanks Carl. Joshua Kramer wrote: Oops! Here'

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Joshua Kramer wrote: remote interfaces for ACL. Cross posting to the dev list, as I don't remember who was prototyping/ implementing this. I am playing with pulling the ACL information from SELinux. Currently, I'm determining the best SELinux method to use to get the ACL's we need. Cheers

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
Let me look... it's not in the agenda... On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Maybe in the release we can also note that they missed this month's board report *snicker* *duck* Jim, I had filed the board report on 02/14, was the second project to file...

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Jim Jagielski wrote: Maybe in the release we can also note that they missed this month's board report *snicker* *duck* Jim, I had filed the board report on 02/14, was the second project to file... Carl. - Apache Qpid - AMQ

License Compatibility: Google vs. Apache (fwd)

2009-02-18 Thread Joshua Kramer
(This is a subthread of the Protocol Buffers discussion I started) Does anyone know if the Google license is compatible with the Apache license under which QPid is released? If nobody knows offhand I'll do some research to find out. I would like to take some code from the Protocol Buffers u

[Discussion] Release Artefacts

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Ritchie
Hello, I thought it best if we discuss what we are looking to release as artefacts for the upcoming release. Let me start with what I think we should be releasing with my reasons and we can see what the general view is. Starting with the source packages that we should be providing: - C++ - C#

Re: Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
Maybe in the release we can also note that they missed this month's board report *snicker* *duck* :) On Feb 18, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Sally Khudairi wrote: Thanks, Carl. Wow -- this is really thorough! I'll run through this and forward suggested edits, if any. We'll also need a few days to r

Re: Access management with QPid

2009-02-18 Thread Joshua Kramer
remote interfaces for ACL. Cross posting to the dev list, as I don't remember who was prototyping/ implementing this. I am playing with pulling the ACL information from SELinux. Currently, I'm determining the best SELinux method to use to get the ACL's we need. Cheers, -Josh -- - ht

Re: Search engine visibility improving ....

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
Robert Greig wrote: 2009/2/16 Oliver Baltzer : Jonathan Robie wrote: Still not on the first page for AMQP what else are people likely to search for? When I stumbled across Qpid I was not looking for a particular protocol, instead my search terms where any combination of the

Re: Search engine visibility improving ....

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Robie
Oliver Baltzer wrote: When I stumbled across Qpid I was not looking for a particular protocol, instead my search terms where any combination of the below: C++, C, messaging, message queuing protocol, lightweight, infiniband, python The keywords C++ and lightweight eventually pointed me to AMQP

[jira] Commented: (QPID-1666) Refactor PollableQueue and PollableCondition to allow porting

2009-02-18 Thread Alan Conway (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1666?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12674652#action_12674652 ] Alan Conway commented on QPID-1666: --- Nice refactor. I like moving the relationsihp with th

Qpid Graduation release

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Sally, It took longer than expected, but here is what we have with feedback people on the dev list and all that kindly provided quotes. Please let us know when you expect it will be released. kind regards Carl. *The Apache Software Foundation Names Qpid a Top-Level Project* /Open source m

Re: Possible T-shirt image

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
I think we may need to take the AMQP off the logo to not have issues with the AMQP WG, maybe put the AMQP in text below it. I am going to see if I can get a set of these printed to be handed out... Carl. michael goulish wrote: Mark -- Thanks for kind words, and ideas about the logo. Here a

Re: [VOTE] Changing the version number and what to change it too

2009-02-18 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: > Would it be considered rude to ask for a summary of what the problems with > the 'M' are? I was away when the thread started and though I have tried to > catch up, I'm still not clear in that point. I'm aware that its awkward for > the c++ auto

Re: [VOTE] Changing the version number and what to change it too

2009-02-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
Gordon Sim wrote: Aidan Skinner wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Aidan Skinner wrote: Since the other thread got canned, let's hope we can get a resolution on this one. Two questions, since there are orthogonal choices to be made and Apache doesn't support condorcet voting. Just a he

Re: [VOTE] Changing the version number and what to change it too

2009-02-18 Thread Gordon Sim
Aidan Skinner wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Aidan Skinner wrote: Since the other thread got canned, let's hope we can get a resolution on this one. Two questions, since there are orthogonal choices to be made and Apache doesn't support condorcet voting. Just a heads up that I'm goi

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Ritchie
Rajith, Do you have a test case that shows the dispatcher not starting on the setting of a message listener after connection start? The reason we don't automatically start is that if we create a consumer on a session and never consume on it then starting the dispatcher will fill the prefetch on th

[jira] Commented: (QPID-1632) Move reference counting from AMQMessage and Queue classes to TransactionLog

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Ritchie (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1632?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12674598#action_12674598 ] Martin Ritchie commented on QPID-1632: -- I've been adding reference counting testing aga

Re: [VOTE] Changing the version number and what to change it too

2009-02-18 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Aidan Skinner wrote: > Since the other thread got canned, let's hope we can get a resolution > on this one. Two questions, since there are orthogonal choices to be > made and Apache doesn't support condorcet voting. Just a heads up that I'm going to tally this to

Re: Clarification on JMS Client behaviour w.r.t message listeners

2009-02-18 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Rajith Attapattu wrote: > I noticed in the current codebase, > that when the connection is started, the dispatcher thread for a > particular session will not be started if there are no registered > message listeners. > But if I add a message listener later, the d