Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-13 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Marnie McCormack < marnie.mccorm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Well put, and aside from any excitement caused (and driving Rafi to read > our > docs :-), apologies for my heated response Marnie no need to apologize. Debating and raising concerns are good and you ar

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-13 Thread Marnie McCormack
Well put, and aside from any excitement caused (and driving Rafi to read our docs :-), apologies for my heated response ! Having had mainly Java docs for quite a while, and laid out in such a way that users I sent to the site could follow them I'd admit to finding some of the top level changes quit

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Jonathan Robie
Rafael Schloming wrote: Believe it or not I've never actually read our documentation, however the controversy here inspired me to take a look, and now I feel the need to supply the perspective from a fresh set of eyes. Comparing just the two top level pages, I found the DocumentationB page t

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Rafael Schloming
Marnie McCormack wrote: Being honest, I like the old page far better - escpecially since I just added to it/updated it :-) From my pov, I think it's quite frustrating that all the broker/implementation boundaries are becoming blurred in the docs & the way we link to them. For example, the FAQ i

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Marnie McCormack < marnie.mccorm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Maintaining docs by language is not a good choice IMHO. > > We can clearly see that our users are trying to mix and match components > > written in different languages. > > Also the c++ broker

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Marnie McCormack
> > > Maintaining docs by language is not a good choice IMHO. > We can clearly see that our users are trying to mix and match components > written in different languages. > Also the c++ broker is packaged by platform and IMO each package is a > different product with possibly different documentati

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Jonathan Robie
Marnie McCormack wrote: I'm not sure what the answer here is, as you're right about the multiple differing views issue. My take on it (and it is a little one sided) is to approach the pages as a User tries to find something out, usually (inevitably) as a Java dev. Not sure about a better way fw

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Marnie McCormack
I'm not sure what the answer here is, as you're right about the multiple differing views issue. My take on it (and it is a little one sided) is to approach the pages as a User tries to find something out, usually (inevitably) as a Java dev. Not sure about a better way fwd tho ... will ponder. Ma

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Marnie McCormack < marnie.mccorm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Being honest, I like the old page far better - escpecially since I just > added to it/updated it :-) > The problem with the old documentation page is that you cannot find information easily. They are bur

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Jonathan Robie
Marnie McCormack wrote: Being honest, I like the old page far better - escpecially since I just added to it/updated it :-) From my pov, I think it's quite frustrating that all the broker/implementation boundaries are becoming blurred in the docs & the way we link to them. One problem we're

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-12 Thread Marnie McCormack
Being honest, I like the old page far better - escpecially since I just added to it/updated it :-) >From my pov, I think it's quite frustrating that all the broker/implementation boundaries are becoming blurred in the docs & the way we link to them. For example, the FAQ is not a Qpid wide FAQ and

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Carl Trieloff
Rajith Attapattu wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: I don't like there is a link for each client, I would prefer it to be an achor to the info on the same page... not links to separate pages.. to much clicking around It can be done in a Similar way to the FA

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > I don't like there is a link for each client, I would prefer it to be an > achor to the info on the same page... not links > to separate pages.. to much clicking around It can be done in a Similar way to the FAQ page. Rajtih > > > Carl.

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Carl Trieloff
I don't like there is a link for each client, I would prefer it to be an achor to the info on the same page... not links to separate pages.. to much clicking around Carl. Rajith Attapattu wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jonathan Robie wrote: Rajith Attapattu wrote: Jonat

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Jonathan Robie
Rajith Attapattu wrote: Now there will be API guides for QMF as well. Ex the python and c++ based API's. We need to make sure we distinguish properly between these API's and the messaging client API's Currently, the Python console API is in the normal Python API docs. Is there a reason not

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Rajith Attapattu
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jonathan Robie wrote: > Rajith Attapattu wrote: > >> Jonathan, appologies if I wasn't clear enough. >> >> The goal was to replace the current documentaiton page at >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Documentation with the >> proposed >> http://cwiki

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Jonathan Robie
Rajith Attapattu wrote: Jonathan, appologies if I wasn't clear enough. The goal was to replace the current documentaiton page at http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Documentation with the proposed http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/DocumentationB The reason why I create

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Rajith Attapattu
ne good documentation page is better than a collection of documentation > pages that differ in various ways. > > Jonathan > > > Rajith Attapattu wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I had a stab at re organizing the Qpid documentation page. >> Looking at dev/user

Re: Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Jonathan Robie
ocumentation page is better than a collection of documentation pages that differ in various ways. Jonathan Rajith Attapattu wrote: Hi All, I had a stab at re organizing the Qpid documentation page. Looking at dev/user list I found that several users had a bit of trouble finding out the info th

Qpid Documentation page

2009-02-11 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Hi All, I had a stab at re organizing the Qpid documentation page. Looking at dev/user list I found that several users had a bit of trouble finding out the info they are looking for. The goals for the re-org are, 1. Provide a top level index of documentation broken down by functional area. 2