[racket-dev] gtk message on startup ...

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Burkett
Morning, I've just compiled up racket 5.1.2, downloaded yesterday, on a RHEL5.7 system where everything compiled without complaint that I could see. When starting up drracket, the following message appears 21 times: Gtk: gtk_menu_attach_to_widget: assertion 'GTK_IS_MENU (menu)' failed Can I

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] pretty-big-#lang (was: External connection toFinndesign Liitin)

2011-08-12 Thread Jukka Tuominen
I definitely agree that consistency is essential. However, the solution makes the threshold to be able use dynamic evaluations even higher. And I find them one of the most attractice features of Scheme. Even stiching strings together and evaluate them. Again, I'm not saying that the

Re: [racket-dev] The Stepper strikes again

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
20 minutes ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: I just noticed that Stephen added some properties to support the syntax stepper into racket/private/promise.rkt at 6921960c. This is a bad idea -- *please* try find a way to remove it. If all else fails, here's an idea: 5 hours ago, sa...@racket-lang.org

Re: [racket-dev] The Stepper strikes again

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
[Ugh, please ignore this, I forgot to change the CCs.] -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks:

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Eli Barzilay wrote: On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Guillaume Marceau gmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Does the combo box auto detect the downloader's platform for the User-Agent header. Yes, in some cases when it's possible to make a guess. The main problem here is that it is *just* a

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Matthias Felleisen wrote: I am happy to see that we are looking for solutions to a problem. I think we should use everything we can to make the best possible guess. Then we should use English language to inform people that we made a best possible guess and that there are

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Yesterday, Guillaume Marceau wrote: Or we can trust that the Mozilla Foundation's user interface designers has already done the experiment. They have some of the best people of the industry working for them, including Aza Raskin, son of Jef Raskin, one of the original designer of the

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some I don't comprehend. (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. (2) We need to accommodate them mostly, not the

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
(1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as Guillaume has shown us). Everyone who's not on Windows is acutely

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
About a minute ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some I don't comprehend. (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us.

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
Three minutes ago, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as Guillaume

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Sounds like it is time for Guillaume to explore a prototype, if he's still interested in that, then. Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: About a minute ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: Eli, I must say I appreciate some of your concerns but some I don't

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Eli Barzilay
10 minutes ago, Robby Findler wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: (1) My hunch is that most of our downloaders -- especially technically unsavy (what's the right word here?) people -- download one and only one thing from us. And I

[racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
I've pushed the latest plot2d and plot3d to my github account. I want to know whether there are any critical differences in output or execution time among platforms. There shouldn't be any, but it's possible. Can I get a few volunteers, at least one on Windows and one on Mac, to clone it and

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
Windows done; specs below in case someone w/ a significantly different machine wants to try it out too: Windows 7 Home Premium 1.2 GHz ULV Intel Core i5-430UM 4 GB DDR3 RAM SATA hard drive (5400 RPM) Output is here: http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/tmp/neil-toronto.tgz The package looks amazing,

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Jay McCarthy
OS X 10.7 Racket v5.1.2.3. http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay/tmp/201108122018-osx.zip On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.com wrote: I've pushed the latest plot2d and plot3d to my github account. I want to know whether there are any critical differences in output or

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are two issues: 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small to be 8 point. Either there's some font scaling or it's erroneously choosing an 8 *pixel* font. How can we tell? 2. The Mac's

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Neil Toronto
On 08/12/2011 07:04 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: Windows done; specs below in case someone w/ a significantly different machine wants to try it out too: Windows 7 Home Premium 1.2 GHz ULV Intel Core i5-430UM 4 GB DDR3 RAM SATA hard drive (5400 RPM) Output is here:

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
1. Racket's awesome cross-platform drawing library. Robby, is this what you were trying to sell Danny on to support in WeScheme? Shriram _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
Yes (for the subset that is in common with html5 (hopefully that's all of it)). Robby On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: 1. Racket's awesome cross-platform drawing library. Robby, is this what you were trying to sell Danny on to support in

Re: [racket-dev] Plot testing and feedback

2011-08-12 Thread Robby Findler
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.com wrote: Can I get a racket/gui expert's help on Jay's machine's output? There are two issues: 1. I have it render text with an 8 point font. On Jay's Mac, it's too small to be 8 point. Either there's some font scaling or it's

Re: [racket-dev] Downloading DrRacket for Mac is hard?

2011-08-12 Thread Guillaume Marceau
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Shriram Krishnamurthi s...@cs.brown.edu wrote: And I suspect this is precisely why FF makes Windows the default (as Guillaume has shown us).  Everyone who's not on Windows is acutely conscious of the fact that they are not, and knows what to do about it. FF