Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Greg Hendershott
I agree. Although I appreciate it helps in some classroom situations, I don't think the status quo is best for programmers in general. Also, speaking of Choose Language, I remember being very confused early on because some options were "doubly hidden": 1. They're not under Preferences, they're un

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:13 PM: > >> I'm confused about what you're suggesting, then. Is there a difference, >> under your suggestion, between opening DrRacket for the first time, entering >> `1` in the definitions window, a

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:13 PM: I'm confused about what you're suggesting, then. Is there a difference, under your suggestion, between opening DrRacket for the first time, entering `1` in the definitions window, and hitting run, and doing that same thing in an existing DrRacke

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:06 PM: > >> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke >> wrote: >>> >>> Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: >>> On this topic (which is about the "Choose a language" language

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 08:06 PM: On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the "Choose a language" language that DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we should just delete

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Neil Van Dyke wrote: > Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: > >> On this topic (which is about the "Choose a language" language that >> DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we should just >> delete all of this code, and start in "the Racke

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Neil Van Dyke
Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote at 04/26/2014 07:26 PM: On this topic (which is about the "Choose a language" language that DrRacket starts in when newly installed), I think we should just delete all of this code, and start in "the Racket language". How about make Run and other very language-specific

Re: [racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > ;; > - > ** What does it mean to say ", or get guidance"? > > Where should people get guidance? What about? > Avoid useless words. On this topic (which is a

[racket-dev] comments on "comments on learning Racket"

2014-04-26 Thread Matthias Felleisen
I have been re-reading the notes on Artyom.me's site, taking notes. Few question his comments, some suggest reactions that should come from us, others are personal musings. I know this is a bit of a brain dump but I find this person's thoughts worthwhile for us (devs). Notes on "Learning R