Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > >> > Why does he think "Performance sucks"? >> >> Because here's the list of things that are slow > > DrRacket is an operating system running on top of your other OS > to make life for Racket developers simple. It was originally develope

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Robby Findler
I don't think those are the things being complained about. I read a complaint about non-incremental GC, a complaint about DrRacket IO (which is really quite slow because it uses an editor which is overkill for a stream of text), possibly a complaint about the FFI (but maybe there's more there?). An

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
Right, I don't think that any of Artyom's comments are about the issue that Matthias was bringing up, but I do think that's it a real issue. Sam On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > I don't think those are the things being complained about. I read a > complaint about non-increm

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
Sam: > Could we > - warn people when they use `time` in DrRacket? > - provide a "performance" mode that runs programs out-of-process, or > just in another place? > - something else? I like this. DrRacket has a performance mode already (disable profiling and debugging) in the (hidded part) of t

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Matthias Felleisen
On May 6, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: > How about an extra button, a "Run Benchmark" button? +ω _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-06 Thread Stephen Chang
> How about an extra button, a "Run Benchmark" button? You can already get this with the "benchmark" package, from pkg.racket-lang. > > /Jens Axel > > > 2014-05-06 19:43 GMT+02:00 Sam Tobin-Hochstadt : >> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Matthias Felleisen >> wrote: >>> > Why does he thin

Re: [racket-dev] [racket] "lab notebook on learning process" (was: Re: Macros baffle me)

2014-05-07 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
2014-05-06 23:48 GMT+02:00 Stephen Chang : >> How about an extra button, a "Run Benchmark" button? > > You can already get this with the "benchmark" package, from pkg.racket-lang. A builtin button will hopefully make it obvious even for non-DrRacket users, that Run is not intended for benchmarks.