Re: Review Core JSF coverage of Shale dialogs?

2006-08-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/23/06, David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone like to review material on Shale dialogs from the upcoming 2nd ed of Core JSF (about 15 pages)? I have an example with a Bill Pay dialog that has a Wire Transfer subdialog. The data entered into the subdialog is incorporated into the

Re: [dialog] Get rid of subdialogs

2006-08-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/23/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not quite convinced that subdialog is very useful as implemented. I see the usefulness in stringing existing dialogs together but certain byproducts of subdialog are undesirable. For instance, SHALE-153 which complains about how you

RE: [dialog] Get rid of subdialogs

2006-08-24 Thread hermod.opstvedt
Hi I agree with this. I would like to look at subdialogs as a sort of component, much like we create a Clay component and reuse it in various pages/views. If we think of subdialogs in this way, we should be able to configure the state/context going in and where to add state/context going out.

Re: Review Core JSF coverage of Shale dialogs?

2006-08-24 Thread Sean Schofield
When's the book supposed to be published? For those who are anxious to learn JSF and can't wait for the 2nd edition, I suggest you get the first edition now! I wish I had it way back when I was first trying to understand JSF. I'm happy to review the whole book if you need a reviewer. Sean On

Re: [dialog] Basic button functionality

2006-08-24 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] No I'm not proposing we deal with generating HTML rendering business as far as dialogs are concerned. [I'll post a more detailed explanation on the shale dev list where that belongs.] This might not be a bad idea. The struts synchronization token

Re: [dialog] Get rid of subdialogs

2006-08-24 Thread Gary VanMatre
On 8/24/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that, if we keep the concept of subdialogs around, mechanisms for dealing with this are important. From the perspective of a subdialog, you should be able to pull data out of the parent dialog's context transparently

Re: [dialog] Get rid of subdialogs

2006-08-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 8/24/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ In my ideal world scenario, we'll be able to rebuild things on the inside, with minimal-to-none impact on how an application developer uses it. However, I'm not convinced that goal is actually achievable, if we're going to have a

[dialog] Using SCXML to describe Shale dialogs

2006-08-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
I'd like Shale to support both the current dialog notation and SCXML as stated here [1], and both can use the same underlying engine. The current dialog notation by virtue of being the incumbent, and SCXML because: * SCXML is a well-defined distillation of all variants of state machine theory.

Re: Review Core JSF coverage of Shale dialogs?

2006-08-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 8/24/06, David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone like to review material on Shale dialogs from the upcoming 2nd ed of Core JSF (about 15 pages)? I have an example with a Bill Pay dialog that has a Wire Transfer subdialog. The data entered into the subdialog is incorporated into the

Re: [dialog] Submachines, Contexts and Shale subdialogs (was Re: Get rid of subdialogs)

2006-08-24 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 8/24/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Which brings us to the discussion about sharing dialog data as-in SHALE-153, and this is where Shale subdialogs deviate from most dialects of state chart theory, where submachine states are not processed according to the stack-based