Re: Consistent failure of DistributedQueryComponentCustomSortTest on branch_8x when running in CI env

2021-08-12 Thread Timothy Potter
Not just our CI ... same failure here: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Solr-8.x-MacOSX/2184/ On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:03 PM Timothy Potter wrote: > > I'm seeing the following failure on branch_8x which looks like new > code added to the test in commit: > https://github.com/apache/lucene-s

Consistent failure of DistributedQueryComponentCustomSortTest on branch_8x when running in CI env

2021-08-12 Thread Timothy Potter
I'm seeing the following failure on branch_8x which looks like new code added to the test in commit: https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/commit/d99980516bd3470e9e120428914d1270d5ddf91b It passes locally in my IDE but fails in an internal Jenkins server running JDK 11 & 15: java.lang.AssertionEr

Re: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Ilan Ginzburg
Where I work we currently run most of production on Solr standalone (cluster managed by custom code) on a slightly modified Solr fork. This cluster scales orders of magnitude more than SolrCloud (try having multiple hundreds thousand collections on a 16 nodes SolrCloud cluster, even if you allow yo

Re: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Gus Heck
If using the embedded for three nodes (for example) solr you will get one of two things out of the box: - Start zk on every one of 3 nodes, get 3 independent clusters that know nothing of each other - Start zk on one "key" node, point the other two nodes at the key node, get one cluste

RE: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Uwe Schindler
Just to conclude: In addition I have also one crazy singleton customer that index and analyze their stuff with plain Lucene Core and copy their final and highly optimized indexes into their Solr server! … But nevermind, they managed to also do this into Solr cloud with manual sharding using

RE: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Uwe Schindler
Hey, yes you are right. Nevertheless, I’d like to mention some “painpoints” or common setups I have seen very often, especially by high-security or public/governmental typical beefy-high-secure-datacenter-deep-below-earth-no-cloud-at-all infrastructures. Those also prefer Solr in contrast t

Re: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Mike Drob
There are a few additional improvements to embedded ZK available in 3.7 and further in 3.7.1/2 that would make it much easier and safer for us as well. I plan to pick those up when I’m done with the cache work I’m doing. On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:31 AM David Smiley wrote: > I think Uwe is basica

Re: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread David Smiley
I think Uwe is basically agreeing with my point -- we should not scare people away from embedded ZK. We needn't wait for ZK v3.7; this is a matter of documentation and maybe warnings we emit. Done. ~ David Smiley Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley On Th

Re: Proposal for node configs to adhere to immutable infrastructure

2021-08-12 Thread David Smiley
For leader/follower, would SOLR_VAR_HOME be adequate? It would mean that, at a minimum, core.properties moves to this data volume as well. If there is a configset, it would either be there directly or better, could be referenced from SOLR_HOME/configsets via referencing a named configset. If suc

RE: SolrCloud Alone: Deprecate Standalone Mode

2021-08-12 Thread Uwe Schindler
I am fully happy with something that works out of box. The main problems I see with many customers is not only the complexity of setup, but also that you need to install a separate Zookeeper ensemble. When you tell them: Come on, use the one provided by a solr node and you are fine: “no this

RE: Solr builds hanging all the time on Jenkins

2021-08-12 Thread Uwe Schindler
Here is the fix for the forbiddenapis complaints: https://github.com/apache/solr/pull/261 (I also cleaned up the build logic) - Uwe Schindler Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen https://www.thetaphi.de eMail: u...@thetaphi.de From: Uwe Schindler Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:5

Re: Proposal for node configs to adhere to immutable infrastructure

2021-08-12 Thread Jan Høydahl
The SOLR_DATA_HOME was primarily designed for leader/follower mode, letting the user mount a /mnt/my/data/volume into the machines to store indices, but still keep all config locally in a different folder structure. I'm not attached to SOLR_DATA_HOME, it has caused quite some confusion in SolrCl