I've been thinking about what it would take to actually eliminate spam
or reduce it to less than 10% of what it is now. One of the problems is
the SMTP protocol itself. And a big problem with that is that mail
servers talk to each other using the same protocol as users use to talk
to servers.
I'll help - what do you need? I can give you a VPS under OpenVZ - a
Centos or Fedora 12 64 bit environment. I have bandwidth ant processing
power.
João Gouveia wrote:
Probably makes sense to post this here also?
Sorry for the cross post if it doesn't :-)
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Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 09:41 +0800, Yao Ziyuan wrote:
Passive Spam Revocation (PSR)
Currently almost all mail systems (e.g. Hotmail and Gmail) use a spam
filter, which can drop good and important messages.
I propose an optional feature for current mail
Justin Mason wrote:
Hey --
if anyone has good, reliable, 99.999%-spam, spamtraps that they'd be
interested in forwarding/redirecting to SpamAssassin -- we now have a new
spamtrap system (with help from MailChannels), and should be able to
deal with quite a high volume of inbound spam.
http://
If you still need it I can make a virtual server running under OpenVZ
and you can have total control of the virtual machine.
Marc Perkel wrote:
I have an underutilized machine with a dual core athlon 5600 - 8 gigs
of ram - and severa hundred gigs of free space. I could create a
virtual server
I have an underutilized machine with a dual core athlon 5600 - 8 gigs of
ram - and severa hundred gigs of free space. I could create a virtual
server for you. Will that work?
Justin Mason wrote:
Unfortunately the only offer has been a non-committer -- and I'd
prefer to keep it committer-only d
How would you write a rule to do a DNS lookup, not of the IP address but
of the host name? I can do this in Exim but looking to do the same thing
using SA.
I have created a name based DNS list instead of just IP based. The
request as follows:
.hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com
A return of 127.0
For what it's worth you should make it available and then announce it. :)
Matt Kettler wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
OK - we need a plan. uribl.org is still down. We need a plan to make
various anti-spam services immune from these kinds of attacks.
So - who has some ideas?
Well, really this isn't a matter for spamassassin-devel. URIBL has it's
o
OK - we need a plan. uribl.org is still down. We need a plan to make
various anti-spam services immune from these kinds of attacks.
So - who has some ideas?
I must be missing soimething but when I run sa-update it just update
3.1.8 as if 3.2.0 doesn't exist. Am I doing something wrong?
But what -x is supposed to do is not let spamc pass the message through
unchecked. It is supposed to check all the hosts and then fail if it
can't process it. The -x switch is not supposed to keep the -d switch
from using all listed hosts.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://issues.apache.org/Spa
Bugzillia seems to be broken tonight.
The specs say that if you use spamc with multiple hosts then if the
first host fails it will try the other hosts. It does do this. But if
you user the -x switch then it only tries the first host.
spamc -d host1,host2 - works
spamc -x -d host1,host2
So - what's new in 3.1.2 ?
Hey - it rhymes!
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
Hi there,
I have readied a set of 3.1.2 files. They are available at:
http://people.apache.org/~felicity/312/
Please test out these files and vote as to whether or not to release them as
3.1.2. Thanks. :)
BTW: per ASF poli
Justin Mason wrote:
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Marc Perkel writes:
I added a testimonials page.
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Testimonials
Made a lot of changes to the Wiki. Hope everyone likes it and hope you
don't all freak out. I did some si
I added a testimonials page.
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Testimonials
Made a lot of changes to the Wiki. Hope everyone likes it and hope you
don't all freak out. I did some similar mass edits to the wikis of Exim
and Dovecot a few months ago and people loved it. Just trying to create
sassin" to "AboutSpamAssassin" and linking to the new
page from the front page. I then deleted "SpamAssassin" but it still
wants to link there as if the page exists. Not quite sure how to get
rid of that. The idea is that people can type SpamAssassin without it
becommin
I see in SA 3.10 that the spam assassin headers are towards the top. How
do I move the headers from the top (in the middle of the received lines)
back to the bottom? I want them in the same place the were in before.
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Marc Perkel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam Filter: http
So - how do I move the headers from the top (in the middle of the
received lines back to the bottom?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 10:29:08AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
Just upgraded to SA 3.10 and it's no longer inserting headers into the
message like it used to. What am I doing wrong?
This is a question for the users list, not the dev
Just upgraded to SA 3.10 and it's no longer inserting headers into the
message like it used to. What am I doing wrong?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
If I were to build a front end system to process 200,000 messages an
hour using Spam Assassin - how moch computing power would that take?
What kind of hardware would it take to run that kind of volume?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog
I wonder how quick fraudulent hurricane disaster spam will start showing up?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
isted.
What does someone have to do to get off this list?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
Generally - how much memory should a spamd process take?
on.
My filter right now is so accurate that I could run an open relay and no
one would know I was doing it. So - hope I got your attention this time.
Sidney Markowitz wrote:
Daniel and SpamAssassin are on Slashdot!
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/2010218&tid=111
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do it any other way is
just inefficient. So basically what you provide is an offsite bayes db for
everybody to tie into.
Yeah - I'm using only sitewide bayesian and I think it's the only way
to go personally.
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Marc Perkel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam Filter: http://www.junkemail
I've read your web page and I'm a little confused about what it is you
hope to patent.
The concept of sebder verification is not new. In fact it's already in
Exim and Postfix now and I'm using it and it works great. Unlink what
you are proposing - sending "confirmation" messages to see if they
cated. Are there any
libraries for doing fuzzy string matching and obfuscation detection
that could be used instead of Perl regex's?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
My Religion: http://www.churchofreality.org
quot;base" score and then after enough messages are processed start
gradually changing the base score some as the totals are accumulated.
And perhaps report back to SA rules that are inconsistent with reality.
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My B
I agree. I think that ultimately a second bayesian filter that was
trained on only rule names could replace the SA scoring and become self
scoring rules.
Tony Godshall wrote:
Hi, Justin, all.
I'm doing nearly the opposite:
My upstream runs spamassasin. I run a a non-naive bayesian
(crm114) mys
Justin Mason wrote:
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Marc Perkel writes:
Continuing with my experimenting with a second bayesian filter - using
spamprobe and controlling the tokens myself - and using SA to score the
output.
So - I noticed that spam and ham
Examples:
Ham Headers:
0.018 786 0 0x0395 hdr_article
0.019 731 0 0x0395 hdr_x-yahoo-profile
0.026 535 0 0x0395 hdr_x-virus-checked
0.027 518 0 0x0395 hdr_x-asf-spam-status
0.048 289 0 0x0395 hdr_x-e
. So I tokenized the headers themselves and fed just the header
names in as data and got some really good results.
So - I don't know if SA is doing this but tokenizing the header names
(excluding the common ones that all headers have) is very effective.
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So - just wondering - is spam assassin any faster if running on a 64 bit
AMD processor? Anyone benchmark this?
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Spam Filter: http://www.junkemailfilter.com
My Blog: http://marc.perkel.com
My Religion: http://www.churchofreality.org
~ "If it's
OK - so - I've been talking about this for over a year - but I finally
found a way to try it out and - IT WORKS!
I'm running a second bayesian filter - using spamprobe - but I'm not
feeding the entire message into it. I'm only feeding the headers - not
the body of the message. I am scanning the
And - the release notes are where>
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 09:14:16AM -0800, Marc Perkel wrote:
It used to be that this dump command would give you a listing of words
and scores - now I just get hex tokens. Is there any way to see the
words in a dump
It used to be that this dump command would give you a listing of words
and scores - now I just get hex tokens. Is there any way to see the
words in a dump? I used to use it to see how certian tokens were doing.
Just something I've been wondering about - when interfacing to spam
assassin - who is using what MTA and why? Trying not to get into a
religoius debate here - just trying to understand MTAs that I don't use.
For the record - I started with Sendmail (as we all did) and moved to
exim and stayed w
I's like a feature where a rule forces a specific score for testing
purposes and routing. The idea is if the rule matches the score is set
to a specifiv value regardless of all other rules. That way I can have
something set to 0 for example that I want to be non-spam - but don't
want to autolea
Thanks Loren for supporting the concept. Yes - some sort of thing like
this should be implemented. I leave it to the smart people to figure
out how.
Loren Wilton wrote:
I'd have to take this into account when optimising the scores. Then,
since the scores would be optimised for multipl
in Bayes.
Henry
Marc Perkel wrote:
This may be something that is too CPU intensive but maybe it could work.
I've always wanted to be able to see if a message triggered a rule
several times and if so - had a higher score depending on the number of
times the rule was triggered. Might even cap
I wrote this up for my customers, but I think I'll share it with all of
you who want to make your spam filtering better. Most of the spam on my
system is rejected by EXIM rules with Spam Assassin getting only 10% of
the messages.
http://www.ctyme.com/hosting/how-spam-filter-works.htm
It gives a
This may be something that is too CPU intensive but maybe it could work.
I've always wanted to be able to see if a message triggered a rule
several times and if so - had a higher score depending on the number of
times the rule was triggered. Might even cap it at 3 times and do
something like thi
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