Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Benedict
I am also -1 because on #2 that's not how I understand the voting process to work. It's cut a version, publish it out as beta for developers to use, vote later on it. I model my thoughts after what I've seen on Tomcat. -- Paul --- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/16/06, Don Brown <[

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Benedict
I am +2 with Don's idea. Quite frankly, my favorite Apache projects besides Struts are Tapestry and Tomcat, and those PUT OUT BETA versions on their website. The versions are specifically listed as beta, and then they change the website to list it as GA if a vote changes it. -- Paul --- Don Brown

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/16/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the solution is to: 1. Make betas publicly available and widely known like our 1.1 betas were +1 I think the notion that we can't announce and mirrors Betas is a misunderstanding. We can mirror an announce *any* release, even an Alpha.

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Don Brown
What I dislike is spending untold personal hours fixing all known issues and putting out a release, only to have it continually shot down, not available to anyone. Specifically: 1. Our release plan states we only make GA's available on the mirrors and from the download page, so anything less is

Re: API updates and build fix...

2006-05-16 Thread Bob Lee
We've been cleaning up and reorganizing the API to make it more intuitive and user friendly. Any feedback is much appreciated. Bob On 5/16/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't remember an SPI being part of WW. Is this new to Action 2? --- Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I

Re: API updates and build fix...

2006-05-16 Thread Bob Lee
Doh. Here it is: http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1314 Bob On 5/16/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The list won't accept attachments. You should open a JIRA ticket instead. -Te.d On 5/16/06, Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've attached a patch with the API updates we

Wiki and User Guide

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Benedict
I think it would be a good idea if we either linked or transfered some content from the Wiki pages to the user guide. For instance, I just read the upgrade notes on 1.2.9 on the wiki and it is fabulous. Those kind of things should be first-class documents in our website. Any thoughts about this p

Re: API updates and build fix...

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Benedict
I don't remember an SPI being part of WW. Is this new to Action 2? --- Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've attached a patch with the API updates we discussed last week. I > also fixed the Maven build to correctly build the API again. > > The latest Javadocs are here: http://www.crazybob.or

Re: API updates and build fix...

2006-05-16 Thread Ted Husted
The list won't accept attachments. You should open a JIRA ticket instead. -Te.d On 5/16/06, Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've attached a patch with the API updates we discussed last week. I also fixed the Maven build to correctly build the API again. The latest Javadocs are here: http://

API updates and build fix...

2006-05-16 Thread Bob Lee
I've attached a patch with the API updates we discussed last week. I also fixed the Maven build to correctly build the API again. The latest Javadocs are here: http://www.crazybob.org/javadoc/ Thanks, Bob - To unsubscribe, e-ma

Various Module bugs in Struts 1.3.x (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Germuska
At 1:07 PM -0500 5/16/06, Joe Germuska wrote: I've uncovered a couple of things in porting an old Struts 1.1 application to 1.3; I know they probably need to go in Jira, but I wanted to get a little discussion about them before filing them. Actually, now I think i'll send them separately with d

Bug/change in interpretation of ActionMapping with CRP (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Germuska
At 1:07 PM -0500 5/16/06, Joe Germuska wrote: I've uncovered a couple of things in porting an old Struts 1.1 application to 1.3; I know they probably need to go in Jira, but I wanted to get a little discussion about them before filing them. Actually, now I think i'll send them separately with d

Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Germuska
I hadn't made a point of responding since the vote was already closed, but I've come to agree that the problems identified with the 1.3.4 build are sufficient to make it a "beta", and further, I've just identified one or two other things that are worth nothing that probably further justify that