Re: Struts2 JSF Integration Proposal

2006-08-04 Thread Don Brown
Hmm...I agree with your premise that there are two types of JSF integration use cases: 1. The JSf app that wants some action-driven pages 2. The Struts 2 app that wants to use JSF components However, I don't see why both aren't serviced by the existing code today. To meet use case #1, you c

[tiles] Tiles 2 DTD

2006-08-04 Thread Wendy Smoak
I've been talking with the DTDDo[1] developers, and they've done some work on a Maven 2 plugin for it. Since Tiles 2 is in the sandbox, it's the easiest place to experiment. :) I've added the config to the tiles-core pom, and re-published the site. Here's the generated output: http://struts.a

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Don Brown
My take on this conversation is there are two main viewpoints: 1. Simple convention that uses existing action mapper and wildcards 2. Elaborate convention that uses new action mapper and probably configuration provider and really, I think implementing both is worth considering. We provide a

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Heh - well, that's how this was implemented in the first place. I wrote my own ActionMapper. My point is that I have seen a lot of success with a combination of ActionMapper+Convention-based-configuration, and I think we should really think about pushing this to a broader set of users. I think

Re: RE: [s2] Validation

2006-08-04 Thread Jason Carreira
> OK, I've been lurking on this list for some time, so > nobody here knows me, > but I do want to weigh in on this issue on Jason's > side. I'm relatively new > to WebWork, using it for a new Web application > project started in March. I > was responsible for evaluating the various frameworks > ava

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Jason Carreira
> Ted, while I have no opinion on case, I can say that > my comments in these threads has been driven entirely > from real world experience. This URL: > > https://struts.hostedqa.com/project/7/session/suite/li > st > > Maps, via conventions, to > com.hostedqa.action.project.session.suite.ListActi

RE: [s2] Validation

2006-08-04 Thread Jay H. Hartley
OK, I've been lurking on this list for some time, so nobody here knows me, but I do want to weigh in on this issue on Jason's side. I'm relatively new to WebWork, using it for a new Web application project started in March. I was responsible for evaluating the various frameworks available, then set

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Ted, while I have no opinion on case, I can say that my comments in these threads has been driven entirely from real world experience. This URL: https://struts.hostedqa.com/project/7/session/suite/list Maps, via conventions, to com.hostedqa.action.project.session.suite.ListAction So there, now

Struts2 JSF Integration Proposal

2006-08-04 Thread Chris Waring
I've been working with the Struts2 JSF Integration and I wanted to run a few ideas past the development community. First, I would like to give a high level description of the functionality that I see as being desirable as well as why I believe it to be so. Second, I would like to give a descript

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsAndSpring" by GarethEvans

2006-08-04 Thread Nicolas De Loof
As an excuse, I first have learned German at school (which I don't understand anymore) and latter English. Maybe I'll buy a "improve your english in 24h" CD ? Gareth Evans a écrit : Mines not great and it's my first language! Nicolas De Loof wrote: Oops, I'll realy have to improve my eng

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsAndSpring" by GarethEvans

2006-08-04 Thread Gareth Evans
Mines not great and it's my first language! Nicolas De Loof wrote: Oops, I'll realy have to improve my english ;-) Apache Wiki a écrit : Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Struts Wiki" for change notification. The following page has been changed by Ga

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsAndSpring" by GarethEvans

2006-08-04 Thread Nicolas De Loof
Oops, I'll realy have to improve my english ;-) Apache Wiki a écrit : Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Struts Wiki" for change notification. The following page has been changed by GarethEvans: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsAndSpring

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Jason Carreira
> We can be rigid and consistent in the conventions > that we use with our > own examples, but the nature of wildcards implies > that people could > adopt other conventions, whether we like it or not. > :) > > And, the nice thing about people being able to adopt > their own > conventions is that i

Re: [s2] Validation

2006-08-04 Thread Jason Carreira
> On 8/3/06, Jason Carreira > Ted didn't say deprecate. Ted said that it didn't > seem like a best > practice, in the same way that chaining actions is > not a best > practice. Mainly because it goes against the grain of > the "advanced" > features like type converters, localization, and > especia

[tiles] Tiles as IoC for view tier?

2006-08-04 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Hi list! Today I am going to take the train to spend my 2-weeks holidays in my homeland, so I will not be able to read the list that much (maybe just a look every now and then :-) ). Anyway before going away for a while, I would like to hear from you a concept that came into my mind. Everything

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/3/06, Jason Carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it looks like the stuff Don was showing before, then it's looking too complex. Either explicit configuration or easy but rigid conventions... not configurable conventions ;-) We can be rigid and consistent in the conventions that we use

Re: [s2] Convention over Configuration (was Validation)

2006-08-04 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/3/06, Patrick Lightbody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don and I talked in-depth about using wildcards to do the style of conventions I am talking about, and we found that it would require a much more complex implementation of wildcards. Don, can you add to that? Why not focus on starting w

Re: [s2] Validation

2006-08-04 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/3/06, Jason Carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Either way, you're still talking about multiple aliases for one class, which is what Ted was saying we should deprecate. Ted didn't say deprecate. Ted said that it didn't seem like a best practice, in the same way that chaining actions is n