Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
I get the sense that CI + Maven is a like wrestling with a slinky. Is this problem endemic to s2? What do other open source projects do to alleviate this? My #1 issue is that it's *too difficult and time-consuming to create a release* on the 2.1 trunk. If releases are difficult and dependent

Re: MVEL?

2008-10-07 Thread Bob Tiernay
Touché¹. _ ¹ Threeché even. -- From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:15 PM To: "Struts Developers List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MVEL? I'm not sure that this muddies things much -

Re: Enum type conversion

2008-09-18 Thread Bob Tiernay
I'm not 100% sure, but I though Musachy enabled this by default? -- From: "Jeromy Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:51 AM To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: Enum type conversion Piotr Matkowski wrote: Maybe En

Re: Regarding Struts 2 Feature

2008-08-28 Thread Bob Tiernay
I would say a tag file would be a better bet and you would have more control over it. -- From: "fikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:04 PM To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Regarding Struts 2 Feature * Hello Struts2 Dev G

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deprecate or remove Dojo plugin

2008-07-23 Thread Bob Tiernay
Having a simple taglib-based approach to do some of the more common AJAX-y things, maybe some widgets here and there too, means that Java developers can leverage their existing skills without having to take the plunge into heavy client-side development, which I can say from the experience of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Deprecate or remove Dojo plugin

2008-07-22 Thread Bob Tiernay
Has anyone really looked into a comparison between using a taglib vs. a raw javascript framework across these dimensions: 1. Performance (page load time / bandwidth) (think s:head across most pages) 2. Expressiveness 3. Unobtrusiveness 4. Maintainability 5. Understandability 6. Modularity My ex

Re: ÐYоделиÑ,ÐµÑ ÑO опÑ<Ñ,ом

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
Was that even a question? Or an ascii stress test? -- From: "Musachy Barroso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:42 PM To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: ÐYоделиÑ,ÐµÑ ÑO опÑ<Ñ,ом Please ask this question on the user

Re: Building from scratch

2008-06-22 Thread Bob Tiernay
I can speak to this issue as I'm pretty new to struts development. I wholeheartedly agree with Martin. Building struts from scratch is not entirely intuitive and is a perceived barrier to new developers. What would make sense to me is the following set of information: - svn structure / archit

Re: [s2] New filter strategy RFC

2008-06-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
Is a "filter chain" just: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/sdk_1.3/techdocs/api/javax/servlet/FilterChain.html ? Or is this another abstraction on top of the servlet spec? -- From: "Wes Wannemacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:30

Re: [Struts2] Convention Plugin - @Result

2008-06-08 Thread Bob Tiernay
there doesn't really mean that they need a location, there are also result types on external plugins that we won't know about. We could change the warning message, or remove it altogether. musachy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Bob Tiernay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [Struts2] Convention Plugin - @Result

2008-06-08 Thread Bob Tiernay
vention Plugin - @Result Well, there are a few result that require "location", like velocity, freemarker and others. There is no way to know which one do or do no. To play on the safe side, a warning was added, but it is kind of weak indeed. musachy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Bob

[Struts2] Convention Plugin - @Result

2008-06-08 Thread Bob Tiernay
I am trying to use the following in my LoginAction class: @Action(value = "login!login", results = [EMAIL PROTECTED](name = "success", type = "redirectAction", params = {"actionName", "ListAccounts", "namespace", "/account"} )}) public String login() throws Exception { Howeve

Re: [Struts2] Convention Plugin - Annotationd

2008-06-08 Thread Bob Tiernay
ngs outside action, like global result, stacks, beans etc, is not really intuitive where the annotations should be. musachy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bob Tiernay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am currently trying to convert an existing project over to use the convention plugin. In, t

[Struts2] Convention Plugin - Annotationd

2008-06-08 Thread Bob Tiernay
I am currently trying to convert an existing project over to use the convention plugin. In, the process I discovered that it appears as though I cannot do the following with the annotations: 1. Declare interceptor annotations on package-info.java 2. Set a default interceptor ref (eg. for a pack

Re: [s2] 2.1 to 2.5 Roadmap discussions

2008-06-01 Thread Bob Tiernay
In terms of new features, I would like to see the Scope plugin integrated into the core similar to the plan for Convention. This seems like an essential service for a modern mvc framework. However, the plugin as it stands is not feature complete. I believe the following features would make it g

RE: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-30 Thread Bob Tiernay
Consensus Approval 'Consensus approval' refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed with at least three binding +1 votes and no vetos. http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html Sounds like we have a consensus. Ship it! > Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:53:54 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Struts 2 GUI tools

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Tiernay
I would also recommend checking out the eclipse bea workshop support for struts1. This was pretty darn good as it gave a visual representation of your action mappings as well as a lot of other deep data features. http://dev2dev.bea.com/downloads/StrutsDemo/StrutsDemo.html -

Re: Struts 2 GUI tools

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Tiernay
I would also recommend checking out the eclipse bea workshop support for struts1. This was pretty darn good as it gave a visual representation of your action mappings as well as a lot of other deep data features. http://dev2dev.bea.com/downloads/StrutsDemo/StrutsDemo.html -

Re: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Tiernay
I too would like to commend Musachy for timely and concentrated effort with regards to this plugin :) Are there any objections to merging these plugins? Does the REST plugin embody a set of conventions on urls alone, or does it go deeper than that? ---

RE: [VOTE] Bring Convention plugin into trunk and deprecate Zero Config

2008-05-14 Thread Bob Tiernay
+1 I think that this plugin is of great worth to every day development. I would like to echo some other people's sentiments that a unified plugin would be a significant value add to new struts developers. I know that there is much overlap and confusion between: 1. Zero-config 2. Code behin

Re: Convention Plugin Status

2008-05-11 Thread Bob Tiernay
tly appreciated :) Also, does this plugin effectively make codebehind and smarturls obsolete? Thanks again. -- From: "Brian Pontarelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:20 AM To: "Struts Developers List" Su

Re: Fundamental flaw in Model-Driven?

2008-04-26 Thread Bob Tiernay
I'm wondering if something like OVal (a great validation framework btw) can help out here: See probe mode: http://oval.sourceforge.net/#d0e739 -- From: "Adam Hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:34 AM To: "Struts Developers

Convention Plugin Status

2008-04-22 Thread Bob Tiernay
Anyone know what the status of the Convention plugin is? Is there anyways we can get it out of the sandbox and into a formal release? I'm willing to help out :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comm

Re: Weekly, daily, hourly?! FAQ/README on Struts User?

2008-04-22 Thread Bob Tiernay
What ever happened to this? -- From: "Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:57 PM To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Weekly, daily, hourly?! FAQ/README on Struts User? I've brought this up a few times in the past, but

RE: Message Store Interceptor and WW-1963

2008-04-07 Thread Bob Tiernay
Is there any resolution on this? Before this message I didn't even know this interceptor existed. However, I do recall seeing a jira where Don recommended the scope plugin for such things. Bob> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@struts.apache.org> Subject: Message Store Interceptor and WW-196

RE: Feature sponsorship proposal

2008-04-07 Thread Bob Tiernay
Great idea! Anything that propels s2 development is a great initiative :)> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:08:17 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@struts.apache.org> Subject: Feature sponsorship proposal> > As more and more companies start using open source software, many,> like mine, are looki

Re: 2.1 build

2008-04-06 Thread Bob Tiernay
I have been waiting and waiting for the convention plugin :( That's really the only reason I've been anticipating the 2.1 release. What's involved in "moving it over"? -- From: "Brian Pontarelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008

Scope Plugin

2008-04-06 Thread Bob Tiernay
Does anyone know if there are plans to include the Scope plugin (http://cwiki.apache.org/S2PLUGINS/scope-plugin.html) in the core, and perhaps add some canned interceptor stacks that include it? I see this as missing core component that has offers a great value add to the framework and it's use

Re: Exception while uploading a .jpg file from ValidatorForm through struts action

2008-03-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
Please ask questions like this on the struts-user mailing list, struts-dev is for the development of struts itself (SDIFTDOSI). Thanks, Bob -- From: "Ashima Beri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 3:09 PM To: Subject: Exception whil

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
Really??? I didn't realize OGNL was a requirement for tags to perform conversion and formatting. -- From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:58 AM To: "Struts Developers List" Subject: Re: If I had 1000 hours to gi

Re: If I had 1000 hours to give...

2008-03-20 Thread Bob Tiernay
I would like to see: - provisions for AspectJ as a replacement/alternative for/to interceptors - +1 for native Guice/Spring support - More flexible i18n structuring and packaging (multiple resource bundles via configuration over convention) - integration support for existing validation framework

RE: Issue WW-2107 question - Is JSTL disable or not?

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Tiernay
ice (use JSTL EL). > > But I have to say that having this package is would avoid a lot of > explanation in old struts2 apps. > > Felipe > > > Bob Tiernay wrote: >> >> >> I also recall an email sent on this prior, where a decussion about 2 tlds >> was brewin

RE: Issue WW-2107 question - Is JSTL disable or not?

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Tiernay
You are right about he. > --- Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > 2008/3/6, Bob Tiernay > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > > With each new struts release, I need to extract the > tld and update it.> > > > You don't need it, if you put

RE: Issue WW-2107 question - Is JSTL disable or not?

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Tiernay
I also recall an email sent on this prior, where a decussion about 2 tlds was brewing. Whatever happened with that? With each new struts release, I need to extract the tld and update it. Now, it's not so bad if it's just little old me, but what about everyone else who has to do the same? Se

RE: [s2] Let's get out Struts 2.1.1

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Tiernay
Please do:) > Don Brown wrote:> > I've cleared all but a couple issues out of Struts 2.1.1, > so I think> > we are ready for a release. The only kinda blocking issue is > the> > portlet tests failing, but that seems to have something to do with > the> > setup, not our portlet code, so we could

RE: Need help in highlighting a menu item selected!!!!

2008-02-12 Thread Bob Tiernay
I'd be interested in knowing how they highlight the menu!> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:05:19 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@struts.apache.org> Subject: Re: Need help in highlighting a menu item selected> > > Please use the Struts usermailing list for questions like this. The Struts>

RE: web-beans ?

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Tiernay
> but with JPA, there is> a one-to-one relationship with EntityManagers and > transactions. Not true if you are speaking about extended persistence contexts. Also, even transaction-scoped EntityManagers don't require a transaction for read only queries. _

RE: In regards to Struts 2 Validation.

2007-12-12 Thread Bob Tiernay
imply JSR 303 will be> backwardly compatible > with HV.> > -Ted.> > On Dec 10, 2007 4:37 PM, Bob Tiernay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> >> > I believe that OVal will soon be a ref

RE: In regards to Struts 2 Validation.

2007-12-10 Thread Bob Tiernay
I believe that OVal will soon be a referenced as existing technology for this JSR: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1640398&forum_id=488109 As far as I can tell, they have the most powerful set of features including support for: - AOP (AspectJ) - Spring integration (Validatio

RE: JSP EL in struts2 tags

2007-12-03 Thread Bob Tiernay
Perhaps this can be remedied by adding a switch to each struts tag whereby if the switch is high, then ognl is not evaluated inside the tag: Since the nature of this problem concerns the expressive power of ognl (calling methods), this approach wouldn't penalize jsp el users. Also, I think ha

RE: JSP EL in struts2 tags

2007-11-30 Thread Bob Tiernay
I also agree that JSP EL should be enabled by default. Having to create a seperate tld just to use EL in tag attributes isn't very maintainable if the taglib changes. Could this be solved by creating 2 versions of the tld? I know other taglibs have such things as "taglibname" and "taglibna

RE: JPA in mailreader

2007-11-12 Thread Bob Tiernay
I agree with using Spring. Also, using the jpaTemplate has little value as indicated in the Spring docs. Instead, use the @Repository annotation in your implementation class. > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:11:04 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: dev@struts.apache.org > Subject: Re: JPA in mai

RE: serialize enum to JSON (jsonplugin issue 9)

2007-11-10 Thread Bob Tiernay
FYI, DWR takes the name value approach: http://getahead.org/dwr/server/dwrxml/converters/enum > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:51:55 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > dev@struts.apache.org> Subject: Re: serialize enum to JSON (jsonplugin issue > 9)> > +1 for the JSON-RPC approach.> > On Nov 9,