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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:43:41 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a really interesting statement. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've
> always thought the whole point of JSF was visual components. Yet the
> statement above clearly indicates that JSF goes well beyond that
> charter, and
In order to meet the spec requirements for handling server side events
related to the view tier components, JSF also provides a front
controller responsible for handling the server side request processing
lifecycle, with event listeners and other plug-in points for either
application code or contro
> statement above clearly indicates that JSF goes well beyond that
> charter, and clearly suggests that there are facets of JSF that should
> not be a part of that JSR.
>
>From the original design goals of JSR 127 (JSF)
"Provide a JavaBeans model for dispatching events from client-side
GUI contro
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:00:41 -0700, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:30:22 -0600, Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Unless Martin is incorrect about the way JSF handles requests, I'm inclined
> > to believe (despite the fact JSF will be a part of the
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:30:22 -0600, Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Unless Martin is incorrect about the way JSF handles requests, I'm inclined
> to believe (despite the fact JSF will be a part of the next specification)
> we might want to consider using something else under the covers i
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Subject: Re: JSF and highly dynamic apps (was Re: Struts-BSF,
Struts-Scripting [was Re: Proposal: Javascript-to-Java object
conversions]]])
Martin, you make an interesting comment that I thi
Martin, you make an interesting comment that I think ties into this
discussion (loosely ;) ) that is worth mentioning...
A lot of the tools us architects and developers use these days really
only make sense in cases where you have a separation of activities in
terms of page authors and develope
I hear what you're saying, Craig. However, I still feel that JSF
doesn't buy me much when building highly dynamic apps. Some points to
consider:
* Since one of the goals of such apps is to minimise the number of
full page refreshes, relatively little of the app can be constructed
using tools such
