Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-13 Thread David Geary
This is great news. Thanks, Ted. david Le Jan 6, 2005, à 8:24 PM, Ted Husted a écrit : OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel]. [Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like a jalopy :)] On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:10:45 -0700, Dav

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
It's a wiki, Cedric :) -- Feel free to add your own name, as well as any other likely changes. :) -Ted. On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:53:07 +0100, Cedric Dumoulin wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be > extracted from the Struts core. > You ca

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-07 Thread Levieux Cedric
lopers List" Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues) > > Hello everybody, > > I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be > extracted from the Struts core. > You can add me in th

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-07 Thread Cedric Dumoulin
Hello everybody, I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be extracted from the Struts core. You can add me in the set of initial committersin the draft proposal, if you agree. Cedric Ted Husted wrote: OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/T

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:43:53 -0600, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the slow people: Is Tiles moving as it's own Apache project... not a > Struts sub-project? Yah, I'm pretty sure that's what the "TopLevel" means in the name of the "TilesTopLevel" wiki page. ;-) > (I do not care, just...

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-06 Thread Vic
For the slow people: Is Tiles moving as it's own Apache project... not a Struts sub-project? (I do not care, just... I assumed that since Struts was a Top level project, it had freedom to do as it pleases) .V -- RiA-SoA w/JDNC forums - help develop a community My blog

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 20:24:45 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, there's a draft proposal up at > [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel]. I noticed that the proposal mentions Jira. Without getting into a big flap about which one is better, I just wanted to point out that it w

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2005-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel]. [Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like a jalopy :)] On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:10:45 -0700, David Geary wrote: > Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit : > >> Since there see

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2005-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:17:35 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: >> We might focus on rolling a Core milestone first. Once that is >> building, we can bring out a Taglibs milestone which is dependant >> on that. Then, Apps milestones that are dependant on Core and >> Taglibs. Rinse and repeat.  Core/Taglib

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-31 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:16:10 -0600, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:03 AM -0800 12/31/04, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > Probably, the same thing should be done for Jakarta Commons. > >There are way too many Commons-This and Commons-That. > >> > > > >Agreed. The Maven elements support

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-31 Thread Joe Germuska
At 10:03 AM -0800 12/31/04, Martin Cooper wrote: > Probably, the same thing should be done for Jakarta Commons. There are way too many Commons-This and Commons-That. Agreed. The Maven elements support this for obtaining the dependencies, but I don't know what changes we'd need to make to the pr

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-31 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:26:17 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:31:24 -0800, Don Brown wrote: > > Well, technically, Tiles would be dependent on Struts-taglibs, not > > Struts core, but I agree, cloning the method is the easiest > > solution here. I mainly was us

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-31 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 07:29:46 -0500, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:30:24 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: > > Struts as a group and Struts subprojects as artifacts within that > > group (using Maven terminology here ;). > > +1 > > The big difference here being that t

Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2004-12-29 Thread David Geary
Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit : Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual proposal on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up. Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still need to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the sa

TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)

2004-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:19:25 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote: > You can indeed use Velocity+Tiles: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/tools/javadoc/org/apache/velocity/t > ools/struts/TilesTool.html On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:41:38 -0700, David Geary wrote: > I have extracted a standalone version of Ti

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
The incubation process is where we setup the project infrastructure now, so, yes. The code and community were created here, and so that part is already done. Incubation doesn't have to be a lengthy process. * Float a proposal on [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Setup the usual resources (lists, issues, repo

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Vic
Martin Cooper wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:46:17 -0700, David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If Tiles stays with Apache do we have to go through incubation? It'd be nice if we could skip incubation, considering that Tiles has been incubating in Struts for years. 8-) I think that we shoul

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:46:17 -0700, David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Dec 29, 2004, à 5:29 AM, Ted Husted a écrit : > > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:40:44 -0700, David Geary wrote: > >> I'd like to see an open-source standalone version of Tiles. A > >> toplevel Apache project is one way to

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread David Geary
Le Dec 29, 2004, à 5:29 AM, Ted Husted a écrit : On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:40:44 -0700, David Geary wrote:  I'd like to see an open-source standalone version of Tiles. A  toplevel Apache project is one way to do that. I'd support whatever you wanted to do, David. If you, or anyone else, wanted to appl

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:31:24 -0800, Don Brown wrote: > Well, technically, Tiles would be dependent on Struts-taglibs, not > Struts core, but I agree, cloning the method is the easiest > solution here.  I mainly was using it as an opportunity to raise > the larger issue of subprojects depending on o

RE: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> That a community and its codebase lives is more important > than where it lives. Yes, that's it! And also it is important, to have one place where it lives! Not much different. So I would be happy to move the JSF TilesViewHandler from MyFaces to that (new) repository. > -Ted. > > > > --

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:30:24 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: > Struts as a group and Struts subprojects as artifacts within that > group (using Maven terminology here ;). +1 The big difference here being that there would only be one top-level Struts entry in a Maven repository, and the various Stru

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:40:44 -0700, David Geary wrote: > I'd like to see an open-source standalone version of Tiles. A > toplevel Apache project is one way to do that. I'd support whatever you wanted to do, David. If you, or anyone else, wanted to apply for incubation, I'd help in anyway I can.

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-28 Thread Joe Germuska
lone version of Tiles. A toplevel Apache project is one way to do that. david And yes... Merry Christmas ;-) Matthias -Original Message- From: David Geary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:39 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Is

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-27 Thread Don Brown
to do that. david And yes... Merry Christmas ;-) Matthias -Original Message- From: David Geary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:39 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues Merry Christmas, btw! Le Dec 25, 2004, à 1:35 AM, D

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-27 Thread Don Brown
Darn. I suppose we could make an examples subproject, but the original reason to have subprojects is the ability for them to have a separate release cycle, which wouldn't really apply to examples. On the other hand, it wouldn't be good to have code in Core that depends on subprojects. Another

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-26 Thread Martin Cooper
Don, I just realised that there's another, rather large, issue that you'll come across, if you haven't already. All of the examples use the taglibs. That means we'll need to pull the examples out of core at the same time, probably into an 'examples' subproject. I ran into this while working on th

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-26 Thread David Geary
d And yes... Merry Christmas ;-) Matthias -Original Message- From: David Geary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:39 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues Merry Christmas, btw! Le Dec 25, 2004, à 1:35 AM, Don Brown a écrit : I

RE: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-26 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
; To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues > > > Merry Christmas, btw! > > Le Dec 25, 2004, à 1:35 AM, Don Brown a écrit : > > > I don't know about the other Struts folks, but I think this is would > > be a great addition to

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-25 Thread David Geary
Merry Christmas, btw! Le Dec 25, 2004, à 1:35 AM, Don Brown a écrit : I don't know about the other Struts folks, but I think this is would be a great addition to Tiles. This is not an addition to Tiles, this *is* Tiles. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I have extracted the Tiles code from Struts 1.1, in

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-25 Thread Don Brown
I don't know about the other Struts folks, but I think this is would be a great addition to Tiles. Initially, the Struts Tiles subproject could host Tiles, but as more adapters get added, and perhaps the Tiles community enlarges, there would be enough interest in hosting the Tiles project some

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-25 Thread Don Brown
Martin Cooper wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:22:33 -0800, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've made further progress in extracting tiles and taglibs, and have run into several issues I'd like to get some feedback on. 1. Tiles depends on TagUtils in taglibs. Tiles' version of TagUtils has a lin

RE: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-24 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> I have extracted a standalone version of Tiles from Struts 1.1. I've > implemented a TilesServlet for using Tiles outside of Struts > and a JSF > view handler that forwards to a tile instead of a JSP page. I > also have > some cool examples. that sounds nice! Using Tiles *standalone* is fi

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-24 Thread David Geary
I have extracted a standalone version of Tiles from Struts 1.1. I've implemented a TilesServlet for using Tiles outside of Struts and a JSF view handler that forwards to a tile instead of a JSP page. I also have some cool examples. I was on the verge of starting an open source project for stand

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-24 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:22:33 -0800, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made further progress in extracting tiles and taglibs, and have run > into several issues I'd like to get some feedback on. > > 1. Tiles depends on TagUtils in taglibs. Tiles' version of TagUtils has > a link to tagli

Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues

2004-12-24 Thread Vic
Don Brown wrote: e how to migrate that build process over, especially as we await the Ant reorganization Martin is working on. I'm leaning to committing all my changes once I got all the code compiling and let someone more knowledgable setup cactus for these two subprojects. Don Can't offer he