Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-18 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 17.07.2012 22:55, Julian Foad wrote: >> Branko Čibej wrote: >>> On 17.07.2012 21:08, Julian Foad wrote: I know it would be nice and convenient if it was defined centrally here, but ... I dunno, others may disagree, but I think

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Branko Čibej
On 17.07.2012 22:55, Julian Foad wrote: > Branko Čibej wrote: >> On 17.07.2012 21:08, Julian Foad wrote: >>> I know it would be nice and convenient if it was defined centrally >>> here, but ... I dunno, others may disagree, but I think we need a much >>> more rigorous definition before I'd be

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Foad
Branko Čibej wrote: > On 17.07.2012 21:08, Julian Foad wrote: >>  I know it would be nice and convenient if it was defined centrally >>  here, but ... I dunno, others may disagree, but I think we need a much >>  more rigorous definition before I'd be happy to consider it. > > Thank you, Julian, fo

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Greg Stein
On Jul 17, 2012 1:27 AM, "Branko Čibej" wrote: > > On 17.07.2012 03:59, Greg Stein wrote: >... > They're not, to me. This looks like another case of having an "obviously > correct" solution in hand without having thought about the ramifications. Oh, I know what you mean, and tend to agree. I'm co

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Branko Čibej
On 17.07.2012 21:08, Julian Foad wrote: > I know it would be nice and convenient if it was defined centrally > here, but ... I dunno, others may disagree, but I think we need a much > more rigorous definition before I'd be happy to consider it. Thank you, Julian, for putting it so clearly. -- Ce

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Foad
Bert Huijben wrote: > On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we > standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what > directories are branches and which aren't. [...] > > Client tools like TortoiseSVN, Subclipse, AnkhSVN could really use some

RE: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: Johan Corveleyn [mailto:jcor...@gmail.com] > Sent: dinsdag 17 juli 2012 02:58 > To: C. Michael Pilato > Cc: Bert Huijben; dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property > >

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Branko Čibej
On 17.07.2012 07:14, Trent Nelson wrote: [a description of Enversion] Thanks, Trent -- this was a very good description. So what we have here is a tool that provides additional branch semantics on top of Subversion's data model and controls commits to protect the repository against several kinds

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-17 Thread Branko Čibej
On 17.07.2012 03:59, Greg Stein wrote: > On Jul 16, 2012 1:18 PM, "Branko Čibej" wrote: >> ... >> Please describe the set of use cases you want to address, propose how >> you think this new property can solve them, and at the very least, >> explain how the solution will affect: a) the command-line

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On 7/17/12 1:14 AM, "Trent Nelson" wrote: > 7. Once we detect a root is affected, evn:roots is updated >accordingly. In trac@r175, a new tag is created. Specifically, >trunk@175 is copied to /tags/trac-0.5-rc1. That results in two ^ s/trunk@175/trunk@174

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On 7/16/12 8:57 PM, "Johan Corveleyn" wrote: >On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM, C. Michael Pilato >wrote: >> On 07/16/2012 08:11 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: >>> As we couldn't think of a usage of the content I would suggest that we >>>just >>> always set the property to '*', just like how we handle

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Jul 16, 2012 1:18 PM, "Branko Čibej" wrote: >... > Please describe the set of use cases you want to address, propose how > you think this new property can solve them, and at the very least, > explain how the solution will affect: a) the command-line client, b) > every other client, c) branching

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 07/16/2012 08:11 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: >> On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we >> standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what >> directories are branches and which ar

RE: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: C. Michael Pilato [mailto:cmpil...@collab.net] > Sent: maandag 16 juli 2012 17:18 > To: Bert Huijben; dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property > > On 07/16/2012 09:41 AM, St

RE: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: C. Michael Pilato [mailto:cmpil...@collab.net] > Sent: maandag 16 juli 2012 21:52 > To: Daniel Shahaf > Cc: Bert Huijben; 'Branko Čibej'; dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Branko Čibej
On 16.07.2012 19:51, Bert Huijben wrote: > I'm not saying directories aren't branches. I'm just suggesting that > we give tools a hint to what directories are used as branches. I said that directories /aren't/ branches. :) > And I'm not alone in this wish. Subclipse and at least one other client

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 07/16/2012 03:41 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Bert Huijben wrote on Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 19:51:59 +0200: >> A simple question this 'might' help answer is: >> >> I have a project file ^/trunk/src/Ankh.Package/Ankh.Package.csproj, which my >> user wants to check out. Which directory level should we

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Bert Huijben wrote on Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 19:51:59 +0200: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Branko Čibej [mailto:br...@wandisco.com] > > Sent: maandag 16 juli 2012 19:08 > > To: dev@subversion.apache.org > > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizi

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Philip Martin] > There needs to be a way to create the initial branch, i.e. mkdir as well > as copy. In fact, that's really _all_ that should be needed. If your 'trunk' has a svn:branch property, and you copy or tag it with 'svn copy', the target will get the same property. An explicit 'svn co

RE: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: Branko Čibej [mailto:br...@wandisco.com] > Sent: maandag 16 juli 2012 19:08 > To: dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property > > On 16.07.2012 14:11, Bert Huijben wrote: &g

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Branko Čibej
On 16.07.2012 14:11, Bert Huijben wrote: > Hi, > > On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we > standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what > directories are branches and which aren't. To make sure we don't forget > about this idea

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:17 AM, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 07/16/2012 09:41 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02:11:10PM +0200, Bert Huijben wrote: >>> Open questions: >>> * 'svn:branch' or maybe 'svn:root'? >> >> I'd prefer svn:branch but I don't care strongly. > > And I "

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Trent Nelson
On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: > Hi, > > On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we > standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what > directories are branches and which aren't. Automatic branch ("root") identific

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:17:58AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > On 07/16/2012 09:41 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > I would favour a new 'svn branch' subcommand which is equivalent > > to 'svn copy' including a prop-add of 'svn:branch' at the copy target. > > Hrm. Here's where I think we see

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 07/16/2012 09:41 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02:11:10PM +0200, Bert Huijben wrote: >> Open questions: >> * 'svn:branch' or maybe 'svn:root'? > > I'd prefer svn:branch but I don't care strongly. And I "svn:branch-root". >> * Which UI do/should we provide in 'svn' >> sv

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Philip Martin
Stefan Sperling writes: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02:11:10PM +0200, Bert Huijben wrote: >> Open questions: >> * 'svn:branch' or maybe 'svn:root'? > > I'd prefer svn:branch but I don't care strongly. > >> * Which UI do/should we provide in 'svn' >> svn cp --branch URL >> Performs a copy and makes

RE: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Bert Huijben
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de] > Sent: maandag 16 juli 2012 15:42 > To: Bert Huijben > Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 02:11:10PM +0200, Bert Huijben wrote: > Open questions: > * 'svn:branch' or maybe 'svn:root'? I'd prefer svn:branch but I don't care strongly. > * Which UI do/should we provide in 'svn' > svn cp --branch URL > Performs a copy and makes sure there is a svn:branch property

Re: RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 07/16/2012 08:11 AM, Bert Huijben wrote: > On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we > standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what > directories are branches and which aren't. To make sure we don't forget > about this idea I just drop

RFC: Standardizing a 'svn:branch' (boolean) property

2012-07-16 Thread Bert Huijben
Hi, On the Berlin hackathon the suggestion was raised that it might help that we standardize a new 'svn:branch' property to give tooling a hint on what directories are branches and which aren't. To make sure we don't forget about this idea I just drop this on the list with the information