Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Jens Staal
lördagen den 17 november 2012 14.50.23 skrev Kurt H Maier: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > > sta.li > > -- > > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago. > > Nowadays it seems to be very en vogue and thus has degraded quite > > significan

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Edgaras
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > dwm > --- > (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} > or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all the PCF/Xft cruft away from > the dwm implementation and to define a clean draw.h interface to be > used ins

Re: [dev] Hall of shame of the web

2012-11-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:25:16 +0200 Marc Weber wrote: > resources * expected_users => waste of energy > > Thus you should also take into account how often a site is actually > viewed by users. > > Best would be making browsers show a "this page is going to drawn your > battery soon" hints .. >

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread hiro
On 11/17/12, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Ok, I've heard enough. > > The built-in bar stays as is, but I will organize its code in a way, > that dwm can be compiled without the bar. > > Best regards, > -Anselm > > sounds like a very useful thing, I can betatest if you like.

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Nicholas Hall
I use the mouse quite a bit to switch tags when working with virtual machines and RDP sessions that fill my screen, less the bar. Bringing mouse support in via patch wouldn't be a big deal.

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Hartman
> I know that some of you are inclined to use dwm on tablets. But I'm > not convinced that tablets or touch interfaces in general are a nice > fit with the terminal world we live in. tablets are used to read pdfs, and tablets do not have keyboards. however, while i didn't quite parse your whole pr

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > > sta.li > -- > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago. > Nowadays it seems to be very en vogue and thus has degraded quite > significantly in terms of simplicity. I'm not aware of any distro that > would

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:26:09 +0100 Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 11/17/12 at 01:15pm, Newton Smartt wrote: > > What's wrong with Arch? > > systemd is probably frowned upon around here. People proposing systemd are likely pedophiles or terrorists. The only difference to tor users is

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Justin Pogue
For whatever it's worth (which is not much since I don't contribute much of anything to this community anyway), I hardly touch the mouse and wouldn't even notice if mouse functionality was removed from the bar. I do like having the bar managed by DWM though. The fewer external programs I have to

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 11/17/12 at 01:15pm, Newton Smartt wrote: > What's wrong with Arch? systemd is probably frowned upon around here.

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Newton Smartt
What's wrong with Arch? On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, clamiax wrote: > 2012/11/17 Anselm R Garbe > >> Hi there, >> > Hi. > > >> I'm back in the game ;) >> > Welcome back! > > >> (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} >> or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread clamiax
2012/11/17 Anselm R Garbe > Hi there, > Hi. > I'm back in the game ;) > Welcome back! > (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} > or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all the PCF/Xft cruft away from > the dwm implementation and to define a clean draw.h interface

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Ok, I've heard enough. The built-in bar stays as is, but I will organize its code in a way, that dwm can be compiled without the bar. Best regards, -Anselm

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Andrew Hills
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote: > If this is something like a poll, I concur: no mouse, yes bar. This is also my feeling. I never use the mouse on the bar, but unless sbar will be able to display those handy little boxes over the tags, I'd rather keep what dwm has currentl

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Vitaly Magerya
Anselm R Garbe wrote: > (iii) A third idea is an old idea that 20h brought into the discussion > when investigating 2wm. The man page of 2wm mentions sbar, which was > abandoned a couple of years ago. My question here is: > > -> is there anyone who uses the mouse functionality of the dwm bar > rig

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Ruben Mikkonen
Hi, On Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > (iii) A third idea is an old idea that 20h brought into the discussion > when investigating 2wm. The man page of 2wm mentions sbar, which was > abandoned a couple of years ago. My question here is: > > -> is there anyone who uses the mouse functiona

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Carlos Torres
you know what, i take beck what i said about a couple of things: 1) while separating out common drawing functionality in to a librady is appealing. i don't think all suckless apps should be depending on an external source. they're all independent right now. and i've only incrementally started usi

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 11/17/12 at 01:57pm, Jamie Bragg wrote: > I rarely use the mouse functionality of the dwm bar and wouldn't miss it. I > would kind of miss the dwm bar if it went away, simply because I'd have to > find another solution. > If this is something like a poll, I concur: no mouse, yes bar. M

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Anselm R Garbe [2012-11-17 18:22]: > I'm back in the game ;) wb :) [...] > I barely use the mouse for the dwm bar and would be in favour for > removing the bar altogether from dwm. Instead I would output the > current dwm state to stdout which could be used by a different program > like s

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 17 November 2012 18:58, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:58:22 +0100 Anselm R Garbe wrote: > I’m all for draw.{h,c}. Otherwise the complexity of dependency handling > will need to be added to all of the packages using libdraw. There might > be a tendency of

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Carlos Torres
Good to hear you're back On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > > Hi there, > > I'm back in the game ;) > > Here is my master plan: > > dwm > --- > (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} > or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all the PCF/Xft cruft

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Thuban
Hi, The mouse functionnality in dwm bar could become a patch, no more mainline. I don't use it often, but when I do it's to launch a 9menu. I concur with Nick about the bar, I need it and I trust the dwm one. It's good to hear from you Xavier Le 18:20:03 le 17 nov. 2012 , Anselm R Garbe a écri

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:58:22 +0100 Anselm R Garbe wrote: > dwm > --- > (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} > or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all the PCF/Xft cruft away from > the dwm implementation and to define a clean draw.h interface to be > us

Re: [dev] dwm: Xkb brokenness

2012-11-17 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 15 November 2012 01:01, neil klopfenstein wrote: > Attached is the diff of my changes. Please let me know if there's a better > way for me to submit this patch. Thanks applied (slightly modified). -Anselm

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 17 November 2012 18:57, Jamie Bragg wrote: > I rarely use the mouse functionality of the dwm bar and wouldn't miss it. I > would kind of miss the dwm bar if it went away, simply because I'd have to > find another solution. To be clear, of course I would implement sbar instead which could be us

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Jamie Bragg
I rarely use the mouse functionality of the dwm bar and wouldn't miss it. I would kind of miss the dwm bar if it went away, simply because I'd have to find another solution. Jamie On 17 Nov 2012 13:42, "Nick" wrote: > Quoth Anselm R Garbe: > > -> is there anyone who uses the mouse functionality

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Nick
Quoth Anselm R Garbe: > -> is there anyone who uses the mouse functionality of the dwm bar > right now? Could you live without it? I do use it sometimes, but could live without it. No strong preferences. > I barely use the mouse for the dwm bar and would be in favour for > removing the bar altog

[dev] I'm back

2012-11-17 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi there, I'm back in the game ;) Here is my master plan: dwm --- (i) First I plan a new dwm release with the introduction of draw{.h,c} or libdraw. The idea is to abstract all the PCF/Xft cruft away from the dwm implementation and to define a clean draw.h interface to be used instead. This shou