Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread 7heo
Errata: I meant logind. It's really difficult to remember anything but the d in the end, as the distribution now uses everythingd... On 11/19/2012 03:53 AM, 7...@mail.com wrote: I do *TOTALLY* agree. (one could cote netcfg in addition to systemd and profiled and...) If you want the complete l

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread 7heo
I do *TOTALLY* agree. (one could cote netcfg in addition to systemd and profiled and...) If you want the complete list, go to http://archlinux.org/news it's faster. 7heo. On 11/18/2012 09:56 AM, clamiax wrote: I do not want to get involved in one of the usual useless discussions about how muc

Re: [dev] st bug

2012-11-18 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
* Woldemar ShiPa [2012-11-18 20:29:14 +0400]: > Hello. I've got a st bug trying to execute st -e mc command. Sometimes it > works > as expected and mc runs fullscreen, sometimes used only a half of st window. does it get solved after you resize st? i observed similar behaviour and i think that'

Re: [dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Jens Staal
söndagen den 18 november 2012 14.04.27 skrev Christian Neukirchen: > There are probably more sabotage forks than users by now. :) I don't > know which ones does the symlink-stuff, but I can also tell you about my > ideas then. The rofl0r one is the one I consider "upstream" and he releases disk

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Jens Staal
söndagen den 18 november 2012 07.42.52 skrev Strake: > One may use stacking bind mounts rather than symlinks. I know no > decent such fs in Linux kernel space, as aufsn and unionfs seem > cumbersome, but it ought to not be too difficult in user space, as 9p > server. This is indeed a really cool

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread pancake
I rewrote stow in guile about 10 years ago when I did my gnu/hurd distro it was much more maintainable and short.. Not because of perl, but gnu. But well.. I dont think this is going to give anything good to the discussion. I use arch nowadays but im sure it will not be my next prefered distro w

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Hadrian Węgrzynowski
On 2012-11-18 at 11:04:31 Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:00:23AM +0100, Jens Staal wrote: > > For me, this is a nicer solution than for example pacman to keep > > track on which files that belong to which package (no fragile > > databases needed). I am also happy to report that

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Jakub Lach
Dnia 18 listopada 2012 17:04 Kurt H Maier napisał(a): > When I discovered wayland required mesa, I cited it as the biggest > problem wayland had. Now it has other problems, but mesa still really > sucks. Not only does it depend on libudev, it has a build-time dep on > libxml2 (unsure if that is

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:00:23AM +0100, Jens Staal wrote: > For me, this is a nicer solution than for example pacman to keep track on > which files that belong to which package (no fragile databases needed). I am > also happy to report that dmenu/dwm works nicely on Sabotage (however, it > see

Re: [dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:32 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > tinycore also links all files of mounted squashfs mounts into the > /usr/local. That kind of hack is more simple than stuff like unionfs. > With replacements being written into /usr? I prefer the indirection being behind a standard a

[dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Strake writes: > On 18/11/2012, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: >> GNU Stow also. > > Oh, yeah, that's what we need: more perl. I remember relink.sf.net which is written in Perl too, but the code looks really simple and it probably can be written in pure shell as well. -- Christian Neukirchenht

Re: [dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread hiro
tinycore also links all files of mounted squashfs mounts into the /usr/local. That kind of hack is more simple than stuff like unionfs.

Re: [dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Hugues Moretto-Viry
@Anselm I think all those changes will come with the official 6.1 release? Good work though. Take care.

[dev] Re: I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Anselm R Garbe writes: > On 18 November 2012 07:00, Jens Staal wrote: >> lördagen den 17 november 2012 14.50.23 skrev Kurt H Maier: >>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >>> > sta.li >>> > -- >>> > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago.

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Strake
On 18/11/2012, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > GNU Stow also. Oh, yeah, that's what we need: more perl.

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Strake
Jens Staal wrote: > I agree with this. As an example distribution, Sabotage does things pretty > well. One detail that I like a lot (but it sort of depends on your stance on > symlinks) is the way applications usually are placed in it: > Each application gets its own directory under /opt and then

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Felix Janda wrote: > On 11/18/12 at 07:00am, Jens Staal wrote: >> Each application gets its own directory under /opt and then installed files >> get symlinks in / (the file system hierarchy is stali-inspired with >> everything >> in root and usr just pointing bac

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Felix Janda
On 11/18/12 at 07:00am, Jens Staal wrote: > I agree with this. As an example distribution, Sabotage does things pretty > well. One detail that I like a lot (but it sort of depends on your stance on > symlinks) is the way applications usually are placed in it: > > Each application gets its own di

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 18 November 2012 07:00, Jens Staal wrote: > lördagen den 17 november 2012 14.50.23 skrev Kurt H Maier: >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> > sta.li >> > -- >> > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago. >> > Nowadays it seems to be ver

Re: [dev] I'm back

2012-11-18 Thread clamiax
I do not want to get involved in one of the usual useless discussions about how much something sucks. As for me, I have never been able to install Archlinux without having to use a custom kernel, which is unacceptable for a serious linux distro. The system is often unstable, the community is rather