Re: [dev][9base] Compile with musl

2012-11-26 Thread Galos, David
> Is this patch against 9base hg or tarball? It seems that it fails to patch > against the tarball. The patch is against the hg tip.

Re: [dev][9base] Compile with musl

2012-11-26 Thread Peter A. Shevtsov
On 26/11/12 at 09:23pm, Galos, David wrote: > I've attached a patch which allows 9base to be compiled with the > musl-libc, when CC=musl-gcc and -D__MUSL__ is added to the CFLAGS. > > It's trivial stuff, a few missing headers, a couple changed function > calls, and it turns out musl defines setjmp

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re:[dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-11-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 01:24:57PM -0700, Michael Farnbach wrote: > Troll is another word overused to utter meaninglessness. *time passes* On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 03:56:22PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > "troll" is a fishing term, it means dragging a line behind a boat, > hoping for a bite. It's c

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re:[dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-11-26 Thread Sam Watkins
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 01:24:57PM -0700, Michael Farnbach wrote: > Troll is another word overused to utter meaninglessness. "troll" is a fishing term, it means dragging a line behind a boat, hoping for a bite. It's clear enough what this means in conversation. People on here are blisteringly rud

[dev][9base] Compile with musl

2012-11-26 Thread Galos, David
I've attached a patch which allows 9base to be compiled with the musl-libc, when CC=musl-gcc and -D__MUSL__ is added to the CFLAGS. It's trivial stuff, a few missing headers, a couple changed function calls, and it turns out musl defines setjmp as a macro. David Galos 9base-compile-with-musl.di

Re: [dev] Fwd: Gathering for Uriel. Need photos!!!

2012-11-26 Thread Martti Kühne
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:51 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Marie Hogfors > Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:15 PM > Subject: Gathering for Uriel. Need photos!!! > To: anu_kotam...@hotmail.com, z...@incoherencia.com, 23h...@gmail.com, > frisco.rami

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread chris hall
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:50 AM, markus schnalke wrote: > [2012-11-26 16:47] "Roberto E. Vargas Caballero" > > - History rewriting: git rebase or git filter-branch > (btw: That's the worst feature a version control system can offer.) I disagree, IMO this is one of the most useful features of

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-26 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jens Nyberg wrote: >> I haven't followed this discussion so I'm sorry if have misunderstood >> what you are after. When I want to have a small distro for some >> specialized task I usually just combin

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-26 Thread Barbu Paul - Gheorghe
On 11/26/2012 09:45 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: Thus below you'll find a link to a repository, for a minimal Linux Hi Ciprian, You forgot the link. -- Barbu Paul - Gheorghe Common sense is not so common - Voltaire Visit My GitHub profile to see my open-source projects - https://gith

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread markus schnalke
[2012-11-26 16:47] "Roberto E. Vargas Caballero" > > [...] but if > you want some reasons I am going to give you some of then: > > - History rewriting: git rebase or git filter-branch (btw: That's the worst feature a version control system can offer.) > - Mail workflow support: git am,

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 08:46:37PM +0100, Andreas Krennmair wrote: > * Christian Neukirchen [2012-11-26 20:30]: > >Andreas Krennmair writes: > > > >> * pancake [2012-11-26 18:00]: > >>>On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: > programming languages, and pretending it's 'simple' because it's b

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Andreas Krennmair
* Christian Neukirchen [2012-11-26 20:30]: Andreas Krennmair writes: * pancake [2012-11-26 18:00]: On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: programming languages, and pretending it's 'simple' because it's broken sloccount git = 126.000 C libgit2 = 37.000 mercurial = 34.000 python + 3000 in

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-26 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Jens Nyberg wrote: > 2012/11/26 Ciprian Dorin Craciun : >> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Hugues Moretto-Viry >> wrote: >>> Just because I'm really curious, I'm searching minimal GNU/Linux >>> distributions with the following options: >>> >>> - x86_64 architectu

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Barbu Paul - Gheorghe
On 11/26/2012 12:25 PM, Christoph Lohmann wrote: Greetings comrades, Hello! I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this slow prototyping dependency of Python, which is annoying and could b

[dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Andreas Krennmair writes: > * pancake [2012-11-26 18:00]: >>On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>>programming languages, and pretending it's 'simple' because it's broken >>sloccount >> >>git = 126.000 C >>libgit2 = 37.000 >>mercurial = 34.000 python + 3000 in C >> >> if you say that python l

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Andreas Krennmair
* pancake [2012-11-26 18:00]: On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: programming languages, and pretending it's 'simple' because it's broken sloccount git = 126.000 C libgit2 = 37.000 mercurial = 34.000 python + 3000 in C if you say that python loc is 2x times the same done in C then we sho

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-26 Thread Jens Nyberg
2012/11/26 Ciprian Dorin Craciun : > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Hugues Moretto-Viry > wrote: >> Just because I'm really curious, I'm searching minimal GNU/Linux >> distributions with the following options: >> >> - x86_64 architecture >> - minimal installation >> - no default Desktop Environm

Re: [dev] Minimal distributions

2012-11-26 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Hugues Moretto-Viry wrote: > Just because I'm really curious, I'm searching minimal GNU/Linux > distributions with the following options: > > - x86_64 architecture > - minimal installation > - no default Desktop Environment > - rolling release I don't know wh

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:55:33PM +0100, pancake wrote: > about hgfs... it is using the mercurial python module, right? because > the googlecode svn repo is empty.. or am i pointing to the wrong hgfs? cinap's done a lot of work removing dependencies on the python/ape stuff. it's not 100% there

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread pancake
On 11/26/12 17:33, Kurt H Maier wrote: programming languages, and pretending it's 'simple' because it's broken sloccount git = 126.000 C libgit2 = 37.000 mercurial = 34.000 python + 3000 in C if you say that python loc is 2x times the same done in C then we should move to libgit2 with a decen

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Somebody claiming to be Kurt H Maier wrote: It's like c++: "everyone agrees it's safe to use, but nobody agrees on which 10% is the safe part." I think we call that part of C++ "C89". (Roughly, modulo valid C89 that C++ makes invalid.) -- Stephen Paul Weber, @singpolyma See

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:29:23PM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > I am going to stop this discussion because I think we will not gain anything > with it, but it is very funny that people here use the word 'complex' in some > religious way, and the things that they don't like directl

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread pancake
git flags are crap using getoptlong, i always wondered why nobody did a saner (hg like) frontend for git (maybe using libgit2?) and using only one letter flags . also i would support any mercurial rewrite in C, but mercurial people will probably laught on you. i also tried once to simplify the s

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> All you've done is convince me that git is its own operating system. > It's ludicrously complex and needlessly huge. I don't care that it is > trendy or popular with developers; most of the 'benefits' you listed are > basically using git as though it were an entire disk filesystem. I am going

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:08:56PM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > The git source tree is more than four hundred percent bigger than the > > are you comparing the size of a project in python with the size of a project > written in C?. The logical relation should be 2 times the size o

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread uki
2012/11/26 Roberto E. Vargas Caballero : > - History rewriting: git rebase or git filter-branch mq does this > - Mail workflow support: git am, git format-patch or git email. patchbomb? > - Incremental commits: git add -i, git checkout -f. > - A diary of tip references: git reflog

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> The git source tree is more than four hundred percent bigger than the are you comparing the size of a project in python with the size of a project written in C?. The logical relation should be 2 times the size of hg, and then you could say that they have a similar size. > mercurial source tree.

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:38:17AM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote: > One could argue that hg doesn't fit the suckless philosophy The git source tree is more than four hundred percent bigger than the mercurial source tree. git ships more than 160 *man pages*. It is the emacs of version control. Th

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 03:59:11PM +0100, pancake wrote: > On 11/26/12 12:31, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > >pancake writes: > > > >>git is far more confusing than hg.. in fact sometimes i have to check > >>my notebook or manpages in order to do something in hg is plain easy. > >Do you have some c

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> if we're going to change vcs just to change, why not move back to darcs > or something? I'm still waiting for anyone to make any kind of case for > changing to git other than "lots of people use it." I don't matter if the repositories change or not, I am using git now, but if you want some reas

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 26 November 2012 10:26, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 04:10:46PM +0100, pancake wrote: > > On 11/26/12 15:41, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > everytime i proposed in mercurialchan to rewrite it in C, everybody > > thought i was trolling or so.. i would also love to have hg in c, > > bu

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 04:10:46PM +0100, pancake wrote: > On 11/26/12 15:41, Kurt H Maier wrote: > everytime i proposed in mercurialchan to rewrite it in C, everybody > thought i was trolling or so.. i would also love to have hg in c, > but the reactions were pretty rude, so i decided to move to g

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Calvin Morrison
Right, but python is also an interpreted language, so you need to have the python runtime installed. With other revision control systems I can ( in theory ) distribute a standalone, static linked binary without having to deal with any deps. On 26 November 2012 10:10, pancake wrote: > On 11/26

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread pancake
On 11/26/12 15:41, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this slow prototyping dependency of Python, wh

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread pancake
On 11/26/12 12:31, Christian Neukirchen wrote: pancake writes: git is far more confusing than hg.. in fact sometimes i have to check my notebook or manpages in order to do something in hg is plain easy. Do you have some concrete examples? Maybe it's just a matter of taste, but I find Git mor

[dev] Fwd: Gathering for Uriel. Need photos!!!

2012-11-26 Thread hiro
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Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55:39AM +0100, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > > Uhmm, I have done it with st repository of course, I work with git against > the actual hg repository ^^!!!. > Christoph, why can't you just do this instead of shitting all over everything else?

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is > mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this > slow prototyping dependency of Python, which is annoying and could be > remov

Re: [dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Pierre Chapuis
> pancake writes: > >> git is far more confusing than hg.. in fact sometimes i have to check >> my notebook or manpages in order to do something in hg is plain easy. > > Do you have some concrete examples? Maybe it's just a matter of taste, > but I find Git more logical to use than Mercurial. YM

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread uki
> I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. not sure if really bored or biten by rabid linux hipster

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> the following instructions depend on hggit module being installed > and enabled > in hgrc. fyi > > export hg repo to github > > $ hg log | grep ^user |sort -u | sed -e 's, ,\t,g' |awk '{print > $2="pancake "}' > map > $ vim map # remove user: and set=value > $ hg convert

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Nick
> I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Sounds good to me. I love git, and use it everywhere else. The interface is fine once you're used to it, and given that it's so much more widely used than hg, more people will probably be familiar with it than mercurial anyway. >

[dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Christian Neukirchen
pancake writes: > git is far more confusing than hg.. in fact sometimes i have to check > my notebook or manpages in order to do something in hg is plain easy. Do you have some concrete examples? Maybe it's just a matter of taste, but I find Git more logical to use than Mercurial. YMMD. -- C

[dev] Re: [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Christian Neukirchen
"Roberto E. Vargas Caballero" writes: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: >> Greetings comrades, >> >> I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is >> mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this >> slow pro

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread pancake
i use git in my phone and i dont even have perl in it. actually you have cgit and git and libgit2, both implementations are in C and have no extra dependencies of scripting languages (at runtime), maybe at build.. that's why i decided to get rid of mercurial. i had some problems because of the cr

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Jens Staal
måndagen den 26 november 2012 11.48.09 skrev Roberto E. Vargas Caballero: > > Perl dependency in git is present only in no basic commands. You can remove > it and the core system will follow working. does anyone have experience with libgit2 ? It seems to be pure C and only depend on zlib. I

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> > Dpb on IRC showed me [0], which seems to do a near to perfect import of > > the old hg history. Anyone had bad experiences with this? > > I have experience with git and importing others vc to it, but I have never > done it with Mercurial. > Uhmm, I have done it with st repository of course, I

Re: [dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Christoph Lohmann wrote: > Greetings comrades, > > I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is > mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this > slow prototyping dependency of Python, which is annoy

[dev] [suckless] Migration to git

2012-11-26 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings comrades, I am proposing a migration of all mercurial to git repositories. Git is mature and used by nearly all major OSS projects. Mercurial has this slow prototyping dependency of Python, which is annoying and could be removed that way. Of course git is still(?) adding a perl d