Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-13 Thread Truls Becken
On 2013-12-13, at 00:48, Samuel Holland wrote: > And if you only need simple messages, then there's nothing wrong with having > to > quote the "on success" command: > > $ when -t -c "xmessage Success" > > The advantage of specifying the message command as an argument (as opposed to > &&) is t

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Nick
> > Did you really just say that every file should just be abstracted as a > > directory... how much of that web 2.0 Kool-Aid did you drink? > > Is there an easier way to encourage clean URLs? > > Without resorting to crazy rewrites? 'Options +Multiviews' in .htaccess works a charm. Making a direc

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Y
Just for completeness: I’ve written MirWebseite as a non-generic thing to generate static XHTML websites, too, and even got a second only slightly related installation (which, ofc, by now deviates quite a bit from the installation on the MirBSD/mksh website). Though, it needs the “CMS” user to pro

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Paul Onyschuk
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 01:53:09 + Nick wrote: > > Quoth Thorsten Glaser: > > I absolutely d̲e̲t̲e̲s̲t̲ Markdown. > > Really? Why? I quite like it (at least smu's subset). Works for the > simple usecases I need it, and keeps the angle brackets of doom away > from me. > Markdown solves only

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Edgaras
I get why some people might not like markdown, or similar. Fix me if I'm wrong, but I think that Markdown and similar are also made to be human readable without any parser. And I'd dare to say that nether html not TeX or *roff are as human readable as Margdown and similar. Though of course previous

Re: [dev] [wiki] Add suckless init

2013-12-13 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, YpN wrote: > > I often read the "rocks" page on http://suckless.org and > I like it. I found some useful programs. > Do you think I could add a section about init? I know ignite > and busybox init, it might be interesting. I've been using runit-musl with the ignit

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Paul Onyschuk
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:57:56 +0200 Edgaras wrote: > I get why some people might not like markdown, or similar. Fix me if > I'm wrong, but I think that Markdown and similar are also made to be > human readable without any parser. And I'd dare to say that nether > html not TeX or *roff are as human

Re: [dev] New utility "when"

2013-12-13 Thread Andrew Gwozdziewycz
Samuel Holland wrote: >>> On Dec 12, 2013, at 4:10 PM, "Fernando C.V." >wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Fernando C.V. >wrote: >>> This way could do something like: >>> >>> $ when -t ssh host xmessage DONE! >> >> Well... even if you didn't prompt it to the user interactively

Re: [dev] [wiki] Add suckless init

2013-12-13 Thread FRIGN
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:10:23 +0100 Hiltjo Posthuma wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, YpN wrote: > > > > I often read the "rocks" page on http://suckless.org and > > I like it. I found some useful programs. > > Do you think I could add a section about init? I know ignite > > and busybox i

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Strake
On 13/12/2013, Paul Onyschuk wrote: > [Markdown] is still non-strict, I missed this. Where is evaluation order specified? > Sed, awk, grep and other standard tools work great with sane roff > document: you can stick to the oneliners (I don't think that this can > be said about any other document

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Edgaras
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 02:12:48PM +0100, Paul Onyschuk wrote: > Plain text is even more human friendly. Email composition is based on > conventions, not syntax - quotes, references etc. For many thing it > is good enough. For conversations yes. However those 'mini "markup"' languages allow for

[dev] [9base] [patch] Use getdents() on OpenBSD instead of getdirentries()

2013-12-13 Thread sin
Hi, Simple fix for OpenBSD 5.5 onwards. bye, sin >From 375fc88ebb5e934569ea9fcf8ed7c36d972ce252 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: sin Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:01:12 + Subject: [PATCH] Use getdents() on OpenBSD instead of getdirentries() In OpenBSD 5.5 getdirentries() was replaced with getdent

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 20:00:46 PST Kai Hendry wrote: RSS is dead. why bother? RSS is dead? Did I miss the obituary? What, if anything, has replaced it? I still use it to track new posts on the blogs and other pages I'm interested in. I guess I'm old-fashioned, huh? I still use the commandl

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Nick
> RSS is dead? Did I miss the obituary? What, if anything, has replaced > it? Facebook. Because totalitarianism never felt so cozy... > I still use it to track new posts on the blogs and other pages I'm > interested in. I guess I'm old-fashioned, huh? I still use the > commandline too, and I s

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Kai Hendry
On 14 December 2013 00:16, Charlie Kester wrote: > RSS is dead? Did I miss the obituary? What, if anything, has replaced > it? In all honesty twitter / facebook announcement links. If that doesn't happen I expect to be able to sign up to some announce list, so that I get notified when a blogger

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Strake
On 13/12/2013, Nick wrote: > On a related note, for those who like him, Eben Moglen just did an > excellent series of talks It's not the FSF's doctrine that loses; it's GNU's shitty code. > Browsing the web nowadays feels like having engineers > and advertisers constantly shouting "fuck you" at

Re: [dev] wswsh: a mksh web framework

2013-12-13 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chris Down dixit: >If masking files with directories is considered "clean", then I don't >want to live on this planet any more. >Just don't do it. Agreed. I don’t put *.htm files into subdirectories at all; the other MirWebseite setup does it as it’s got some more hierarchically structured conte