Underscore binding

2011-10-12 Thread Jochen Berger
Hi there, I've been struggling whether to post this on the users' or the devs' list, but I ended up asking here. Sorry if that's not appropriate. So, from Tapestry 5.3, the underscore.js library is shipped. While I'm quite happy about that fact, I'm getting issues with a JS library that also s

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2011-10-12 Thread lprimak
As Phil McKinney of Killer Innovations podcast once said, "Status Quo" is the innovation's #1 killer. In order to keep innovating, sometimes you have to disregard the status quo. When I started using Tablestry about one year ago, the only negative thing I heard about it is that it's incompatible f

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2011-10-12 Thread Alessio Gambi
Hi all, My 2 cents... Maybe 4 :) > We need lots of *users* > posting about Tapestry, not just the committers. Tapestry is powerful but has a very hard learning curve that sometimes is too much for the big audience and this is almost a proven fact. Ways to attract the big audience via documenta

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2011-10-12 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I would vote -1 on any sweeping, incompatible change. I would vote -1 on simply naming it Tapestry 6.0. I think the community will accept minor hiccups, but change package names or other whole scale revisions are not on the table. Yes, there's a ton of minor things I would fix if I was starting fr

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2011-10-12 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:24:33 -0300, Mark wrote: I can see the advantage of increasing the version number from a marketing standpoint, but keep in mind that there is a downside when it comes to books. You can write a book or article on Tapestry 5, and people will still see it as being relevant

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2011-10-12 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:04:55 -0300, Igor Drobiazko wrote: C'mon. We don't need Tapestry 6. Tapestry 5.0 was release almost three years ago. Since than we released 5.1, 5.2 and are just about to release 5.3. Isn't it a proof that Tapestry team cares about framework's stability? People who

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2011-10-12 Thread Mark
I can see the advantage of increasing the version number from a marketing standpoint, but keep in mind that there is a downside when it comes to books. You can write a book or article on Tapestry 5, and people will still see it as being relevant for 5.0, 5.4, etc. However, if you have a bunch of b

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2011-10-12 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:58:32 -0300, Massimo Lusetti wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Bob Harner wrote: Sadly, I suppose the compatibility issue will stay in peoples' minds until, years from now, Tapestry 6 comes out and is fully compatible with Tapestry 5.9. Or, hey, maybe 5.4 shou

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2011-10-12 Thread Sigbjørn Tvedt
The list already exists at http://tapestry.apache.org/applications.html The link can be found at the bottom of the tapestry homepage. /Sigbjørn Tvedt On 11 October 2011 16:55, Jon Williams wrote: > My 3 cents. > A complete list of companies & sites that use Tapestry 5 would be very > useful.

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2011-10-12 Thread CPC
What is howard opinion? having a major version which is backward compatible would be good as perception and js compatibility layer is a good target. On Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM, "Igor Drobiazko" wrote: > C'mon. We don't need Tapestry 6. Tapestry 5.0 was release almost three > years > ago. Since tha

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2011-10-12 Thread Lenny Primak
Stability is passé. It's all about what's new and next. The package names are minor issue. Hey that can be the incompatible part that everybody complains about :). There should be a year release cycle for major versions. Apple is very successful with that idea. On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:04 AM, I

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2011-10-12 Thread Igor Drobiazko
C'mon. We don't need Tapestry 6. Tapestry 5.0 was release almost three years ago. Since than we released 5.1, 5.2 and are just about to release 5.3. Isn't it a proof that Tapestry team cares about framework's stability? People who are still bashing Tapestry for being backward incompatible are loosi

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2011-10-12 Thread Massimo Lusetti
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Bob Harner wrote: > Sadly,  I suppose the compatibility issue will stay in peoples' minds > until, years from now, Tapestry 6 comes out and is fully compatible > with Tapestry 5.9. Or, hey, maybe 5.4 should be named 6.0 just for > that reason :-)   ... kidding, of