[b2g] Deprecating W3C SysApps

2015-02-10 Thread Anders Rundgren
Although it is cool standardizing interfaces to various device resources, it comes at a price in terms of slowness and inflexibility. Recently Google publicly declared that they were not going to continue with SysApps which IMO spelled death of this effort. Since Apps using these APIs must be t

Re: [b2g] Szu-Yu Chen (:aknow) is now a peer for the RIL module

2015-02-10 Thread Ken Chang
Congrats, Aknow. Ken Chang Director of Engineering, Firefox OS Mozilla Corporation On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 1:48 AM, Michael Henretty wrote: > Well done aknow! > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Keven Kuo wrote: > >> Congratulations to aknow. >> >> -- >> Keven Kuo >> Director of Engineering, M

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Paul Theriault
On 11 Feb 2015, at 1:10 am, Anders Rundgren wrote: > On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 11:52:55 AM UTC+1, Julien Wajsberg wrote: >> Hey Paul, >> >> Le 09/02/2015 12:41, Paul Theriault a écrit : >>> === SMS === >>> SMS is risky mainly due to the cost involved. Risks include cost of sending >>>

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Paul Theriault
On 10 Feb 2015, at 9:52 pm, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > Hey Paul, > > Le 09/02/2015 12:41, Paul Theriault a écrit : >> === SMS === >> SMS is risky mainly due to the cost involved. Risks include cost of sending >> SMS and also SMS are very sensitive - e.g. often used in 2-factor auth (e.g. >> ba

Re: [b2g] Get framebuffer socket on Flame

2015-02-10 Thread Gabriele Svelto
On 10/02/2015 10:38, Jan Jongboom wrote: > Anyone? Could it be that the Flame's kernel doesn't have the right module? Or maybe is just missing some kernel boot parameter or init bit? Gabriele signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [b2g] Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed.

2015-02-10 Thread Felix E. Klee
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Archaeopteryx wrote: > VirtualBox 4.3.20 (but also happened with previous versions) > Host: Windows 8.1 64 bit VirtualBox could indeed be the culprit. Just did a quick web search, and [found][1]: “The only caveat I would add is VirtualBox does not support USB dev

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Christiane Ruetten
Hi all, I'd like to seize the opportunity to put out a radical permission concept idea that emerges interesting security properties by turning the permission system inside out. Traditional permission systems as implemented in FxOS focus on functionality: A photo book cloud app may access camera A

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Benjamin Francis
This is great! Some thoughts on prioritisation and alternative APIs below... On 9 February 2015 at 11:41, Paul Theriault wrote: > 1. What APIs (or use cases) are the highest priority to expose to web > content? > Some criteria to consider might be: 1. The developer demand for the API (Numbe

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Anders Rundgren
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 11:52:55 AM UTC+1, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > Hey Paul, > > Le 09/02/2015 12:41, Paul Theriault a écrit : > > === SMS === > > SMS is risky mainly due to the cost involved. Risks include cost of sending > > SMS and also SMS are very sensitive - e.g. often used in 2-

Re: [b2g] Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed.

2015-02-10 Thread Archaeopteryx
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed. Von: Felix E. Klee Datum: 2015-02-10 14:55 I flash from a Xubuntu VM Me too. What virtualization software are you using? What host OS? VirtualBox 4.3.20 (but also happened with previous versions)

Re: [b2g] Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed.

2015-02-10 Thread Felix E. Klee
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Archaeopteryx wrote: > There are people who succeed into flashing the v188 base image and 2.2 > gecko+gaia, e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1130725 Thanks for digging that up! It could of course be that the builds on some days were flawed. > I f

Re: [b2g] Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed.

2015-02-10 Thread Archaeopteryx
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: Flame with 2.2: Pushing Gecko to device failed. Von: Felix E. Klee Datum: 2015-02-08 11:50 On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Archaeopteryx wrote: Does this happen everytime you try to update Gecko and Gaia after updating the firmware? With wha

[b2g] Weekly Quality Report: v2.2 status - Feb 09, 2015

2015-02-10 Thread Eric Chang
​ *V2.2 Highlight & Risk* * Highlight * Will start smoke test(auto, manual) on Nexus 5 Lollipop once we have stable PVT builds, currently builds are not yet created for v2.2 and builds from master

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Hey Paul, Le 09/02/2015 12:41, Paul Theriault a écrit : > === SMS === > SMS is risky mainly due to the cost involved. Risks include cost of sending > SMS and also SMS are very sensitive - e.g. often used in 2-factor auth (e.g. > banking) > > But there are different use cases. For example, many

[b2g] Turn your volume buttons into GPIO ports

2015-02-10 Thread Jan Jongboom
You might know we're working on Gonzo in Telenor, and we wanted some GPIO ports on our Firefox OS phone boards. We documented the process on how to turn the GeeksPhone Keon's volume buttons into ordinary GPIO ports that can control a LED light :-) http://ee.telenor.io/gonzo/hardware/2015/02/10/

Re: [b2g] Get framebuffer socket on Flame

2015-02-10 Thread Jan Jongboom
Anyone? ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Paul Theriault
On 10 Feb 2015, at 7:44 pm, Wilson Page wrote: > Regarding access to telephony. We hoped that fxos would get to the point > where it is so hackable that users could potentially replace the dialer app > with something third-party. It's a bold move, but it's proof we've succeeded > in making 't

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Anders Rundgren
On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 9:51:20 AM UTC+1, Fabrice Desré wrote: > On 02/10/2015 12:44 AM, Wilson Page wrote: > > Regarding access to telephony. We hoped that fxos would get to the point > > where it is so hackable that users could potentially replace the dialer > > app with something third-

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Fabrice Desré
On 02/10/2015 12:44 AM, Wilson Page wrote: > Regarding access to telephony. We hoped that fxos would get to the point > where it is so hackable that users could potentially replace the dialer > app with something third-party. It's a bold move, but it's proof we've > succeeded in making 'the phone f

Re: [b2g] Granting Permissions to the Web

2015-02-10 Thread Wilson Page
Regarding access to telephony. We hoped that fxos would get to the point where it is so hackable that users could potentially replace the dialer app with something third-party. It's a bold move, but it's proof we've succeeded in making 'the phone for makers'. *W I L S O N P A G E* Front-end Deve