Re: SpiderMonkey Newsletter #1

2019-12-06 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 7:08 PM Jan de Mooij wrote: > (This newsletter is also available on our blog > .) > Does this mean http://blog.mozilla.org/javascript will not be used anymore? Kind regards, Dirkjan _

Re: Intent to remove: Fennec

2019-09-24 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:51 PM wrote: > As a happy Fennec end user with no direct involvement with Mozilla, I'm > decidedly unhappy about the direction Mozilla seems to be going here. I > don't expect this complaint to have any effect on plans, but FYI. > Have you actually tried Fenix (Firefo

Re: ThunderBird Development Environement

2019-09-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
I'm afraid this is the wrong mailing list for Thunderbird development support. Have a look here: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ (Mailing lists are at the bottom.) Kind regards, Dirkjan On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 1:50 PM muhammed ismail wrote: > Could you please any one give me

Re: Intent to Ship: Show an indicator for insecure HTTP in the URL bar

2019-07-16 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 20:12 Johann Hofmann wrote: > I tried embedding it in my email but email is apparently complicated, so I > also attached it to the bug: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1562881#c8 > > Thanks for letting me know :) > Thanks! > _

Re: Intent to Ship: Show an indicator for insecure HTTP in the URL bar

2019-07-16 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 19:52 Johann Hofmann wrote: > The bug where this change will be made is bug 1562881 > . Is there a screenshot showing how it will change? I looked at the bug but didn't see anything there. __

Re: Fennec moving to extended support

2019-04-28 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:11 AM Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: > If you have any questions about this plan, don’t hesitate to reach out and > I will do my best to follow up. Also, a more detailed project plan is > available at the link below: > As a nightly Fennec user, I'd much rather start running F

Re: Duplicate dependency policy for Rust in mozilla-central?

2019-03-15 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 15:39 Andreas Tolfsen wrote: > However, I want to talk a little bit about _why_ we see so many > duplicate crates and what causes it. It is my experience that far > too many dependencies are defined on exact version numbers, e.g. > "log = 0.3.9", which effectively forces us

Re: Rust version required to build Firefox ESR versions

2018-08-08 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:44 PM Nathan Froyd wrote: > Given Rust's compatibility guarantees, you may be able to build ESR > with later Rust releases, but your best bet is using the specific Rust > version that we're using. > A related question: is there some place where I can follow along with pl

Re: Phabricator/Lando update, November 2017

2017-12-05 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Masatoshi Kimura wrote: > I went to the 2FA preference on BMO. For me, the only authentication > option was TOTP that requires a smartphone. I do not have a smartphone > like Mark. > TOTP doesn't require a smartphone at all, even though that is how many people use

Re: Browser Architecture Newsletter 5

2017-11-30 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Hi, The coherent thinking and communication about Browser Architecture is a really good change from before, thanks for that. On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Dave Townsend wrote: > We’ll be meeting to talk in more detail about the roadmap, the present, > and the future at the All Hands >

Re: Changes to tab min-width

2017-11-17 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:38 AM, wrote: > 57 is unusable for me..I keep 35-50 tabs open at any given time and I used > Custom Tab Width legacy extension to prevent scrolling. I CANNOT stand > scrolling thru tabs. I don't need to read the tab- I KNOW where they are. > It should be simple to allow

Re: Changes to tab min-width

2017-10-04 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Jeff Griffiths wrote: > 1. do you prefer the existing behaviour or the new behaviour? > 2. if you prefer a value for this pref different than 50 or 100, what > is it? Why? > Like others, I really like ~75 pixels. This allows me to see the first 5-6 characters of

Re: JSBC: JavaScript Start-up Bytecode Cache

2017-06-13 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Jun 13, 2017 11:55, "Nicolas B. Pierron" wrote: The JavaScript Start-up Bytecode Cache⁰ is a project which aims at reducing the page load time by recording the bytecode generated during the last visits and by-pass the JavaScript parser. So this is about content JS only? Has anyone thought ab

Re: Intent to disable service workers and push in 52 ESR

2017-01-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Ben Kelly wrote: > Last I checked we do this all the time for new and potentially unstable > things. For example, AFAIK we do not enable e10s on ESR. I have not heard > if that will change for 52 ESR. I would expect not, though, since we are > still rolling it o

Re: Intent to disable service workers and push in 52 ESR

2017-01-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Ben Kelly wrote: > While things have stabilized since then we are in process of making a major > architectural change in order to support multiple content processes > (multi-e10s). This will make it very difficult to uplift fixes. Once the > new architecture has

Re: What is the big picture view of where the Mozilla/Firefox platform is going?

2016-08-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: > My 1000-ft take on big-picture direction: > * Platform wants to pivot from implementing Platform things in C++ (which > is prone to memory hazards) and JS (which is weakly typed, has runtime > overhead, and various security gotchas) to impleme

Re: Nightly Only Containers Feature

2016-06-20 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Tanvi Vyas wrote: > If this capability interests you, please try out the feature and provide us > with feedback[1]. We want to ensure that the OriginAttributes What's the proper Bugzilla component for bugs/feature requests related to this? I got a bug triage ema

Re: What is "Process Type = content" in "mozilla crash reports"?

2016-05-20 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Tobias B. Besemer wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE2 Hi Tobias, I applaud your enthusiasm in wanting to contribute to this effort. However, in doing so, you've sent 8 messages in the past 16 hour

Re: Date, time, week, month and datetime attributes in the in Firefox

2015-11-02 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > The issue of lack of support for styling form controls is not new, and it > hurts all form controls. I wouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good > here. I was going to write almost the exact same thing. It seemed like there was going

Re: Decreasing quality?

2015-08-20 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Mike Hoye wrote: > For what it's worth, living on Nightly + e10s + a multiscreen setup has been > pretty hard on the soul for a couple of months now, but I don't think that's > a sign of decreasing attention to quality or detail. That's just the price > of being in

Re: Decreasing quality?

2015-08-20 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Till Schneidereit wrote: > That seems likely, yes. Being responsible for this particular regression, I > can say that neither is it at all related to the other bugs mentioned, nor > can it reasonably be interpreted as a sign of decreasing attention to > quality: t

Decreasing quality?

2015-08-17 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Hi all, I have an anecdote, and was wondering if others can corroborate: it seems to me that Nightly's quality has been getting worse recently (this is on latest OS X, rMBP). I'm specifically talking about the past two to three weeks, where I was on holiday and as such spent less time in Firefox t

Re: Firefox Architects

2015-08-12 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Dave Camp wrote: > Thanks to the Firefox Architects for stepping up. Sounds great! >From your addressing, I assume most of the communication from/to this group should happen on either firefox-dev or dev-platform? As a volunteer, it would be great to see a bit mo

Re: Busy indicator API

2015-07-05 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > Is there a reason we shouldn't expose a hook for this? On the one hand, this seems really useful. On the other hand, I'm pretty worried about the UX implications here. I wouldn't want a dozen flashing/spinning/moving things in my tab bar.

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Mark Côté wrote: > To that end, I'd like to consider the voting feature. While it is > enabled on a quite a few products, anecdotally I have heard > many times that it isn't actually useful, that is, votes aren't really > being used to prioritize features & fixes.

Re: Project Silk on Desktop

2015-03-13 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Mike Conley wrote: > Perhaps its worth talking to comms to get their input on whether or not > it's a good time. > > But I have to agree with Jared and Mike - I think showing progress, > especially on the part of performance (perceived or not) can only be a > good

Re: Permission UI

2015-03-03 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > I'd like to ask that we start investigating how to best present these > to the user, including their persistence and implications. As well as > strongly considering updating about:preferences to reveal how much we > store for each page (a

Re: after NPAPI ?

2014-11-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:28 PM, wrote: > If I read correctly, asm.js execute code in a sandbox. I don't think a > sandbox let me access to the wasapi drivers of the soundcard. Why do you need to access those drivers/what are you using them for? Cheers, Dirkjan ___

Re: after NPAPI ?

2014-11-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > My plugin is a link between web page and sound processing. I record the > voice, apply some math, and inject in real time in the headset. > It's a like a guitar effect but for the voice. > > Do you know how I could interface C++ and Web? > On Internet E

Re: e10s is now enabled by default for Nightly!

2014-11-07 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote: > Right, it's that last part that is very much not the case for me. > > I looked for a bug for a while and decided to just file one: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095407 My experience upgrading to today's nightly was also p

Re: Git -> Hg workflows?

2014-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > In the current world, there are enough hg and git users that I think Mozilla > should consider supporting both as first class citizens. The proper way to > do that would be deploying a git push server which eliminates the need to do > anythi

Re: Moratorium on new XUL features

2014-10-14 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > Working on it. It's a big project. ;) Is there a tracker for this? Cheers, Dirkjan ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Intent to ship: WebCrypto API

2014-09-03 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tim Taubert wrote: > Chromium has had the WebCrypto API enabled by default since Crome 37, > which was released in late June 2014. Their implementation supports a > subset of the algorithms that we do, and has roughly the same level of > spec compliance. We expect t

Re: Intent to implement: Disabling auto-play videos on mobile networks/devices?

2014-08-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Nick Alexander wrote: > In general, I'm in favour of not autoplaying at all on mobile devices. Me too! Anecdotal: recently I woke up my wife when I was trying to overcome sleeplessness by browsing my phone a little bit (a questionable method of doing so, but hey!

Re: Depending on libnotify

2014-07-02 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:41 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: > Which library do you suggest? Take a look at watchman: https://github.com/facebook/watchman Cheers, Dirkjan ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.m

Re: What are the most important new APIs to document in Q3/Q4?

2014-06-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > I can think of EME, the Mobile ID API, and WebCrypto which are missing from > this list off the top of my head. Your mention of EME made me think of MediaSource, which I actually think might be more important? Tracker here: https://bugzill

Web Replay

2014-01-15 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
This may be a stupid question, but I just saw this on the webkit mailing list: a way to capture network/user input events (with "negligible" overhead) for debugging purposes. https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2014-January/026062.html I didn't find any bugs about this; it seems interes

Re: Can we teach the updater to download and install multiple partial updates?

2013-11-20 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote: > Has this been discussed before? If so, what was the outcome? Are there bugs > filed? I didn't find any but I don't really know what to search for. There's also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353804, which I think would alleviate

Re: java click to run problem on Firefox

2013-10-10 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: >> Has anyone here played around with the toolchain I describe above? > > I have looked into this briefly. There is a java compiler that targets llvm > somewhere which I can't find a link to right now, but it's unmaintained and > IIRC it did n

Re: suggested reviewers for bugzilla products and components

2013-07-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Byron Jones wrote: > please review and update this document where appropriate. We did this already, it's a bit long in the tooth now, though. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjgkRw6P9EKGcGNSLWhGaXI5eDBQbi1UeFYzajJaYmc#gid=0 Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: Embracing git usage for Firefox/Gecko development?

2013-05-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> Option 2 is where this discussion started (in the Tuesday meeting a few >> weeks ago, >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-05-07#Should_we_switch_from_hg_to_git.3F). >> Since then I've had a number of conversations and have been convinced

Re: Embracing git usage for Firefox/Gecko development?

2013-05-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Johnny Stenback wrote: > Option 2 is where this discussion started (in the Tuesday meeting a few > weeks ago, > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2013-05-07#Should_we_switch_from_hg_to_git.3F). > Since then I've had a number of conversations and have been convinced

Re: Proposal for an inbound2 branch

2013-05-03 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > In git, the only way to have something in your history is for it to be > reachable by a ref (for example, a branch name). When you convert an hg > repo with a multi-headed branch to git, you can only choose to represent one > of those heads b

Re: Mac OSX 10.7+ lion style scroll bars landed on m-i

2013-05-02 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Stephen Pohl wrote: > This is a quick heads up that Mac OSX 10.7+ lion style scroll bars (bug > 636564) have landed on mozilla-inbound with > https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0c513ba74137. Once > merged to mozilla-central expect them to appear

Re: Storage in Gecko

2013-04-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > Anyway, I just wanted to see if others have thought about this. Do > others feel it is a concern? If so, can we formulate a plan to address > it? Who would own this? AIUI the Performance team is experimenting with moving things into JSON fil

Re: Increasing the platform meeting's relevance for engineers

2013-04-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Doug Turner wrote: > I would much rather see us spend the time to curate what's important -- what > platform people should/must read. Someone started a Reddit subgroup > r/MozillaTech. This subgroup is much more relevant to the work that my team > is doing than t

Re: Moz2D Repository Creation

2013-03-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Bas Schouten wrote: > As the next step in moving towards these goals and optimally supporting them > the proposal is to move Moz2D into its own repository. We would use hg > subrepos for this purpose, you can read more about this here > (http://mercurial.selenic

Re: reproducing bug 808466

2012-12-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > Bug 808466 is about changes in selection sometimes not being rendered in a > timely manner. Basically you select something and the selection doesn't > show up immediately. It will usually show up after some delay. > > I *think* this is a

Re: UA string: "Touch" or "Tablet" again

2012-11-12 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > Can we quickly revisit the question of whether to have one of "Touch" or > "Tablet" in our UA string under some circumstances? We need to work out how > Windows 8 Metro fits into our plans (bug 787786), plus the new pile of > touch-enabled

Re: Adding hardware tokens to UA string

2012-09-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: > I've just posted a proposal for a way forward and a policy for adding sites > to the list. This is likely to be a stupid question, but: posted where? Cheers, Dirkjan ___ dev-platform mailing li

Re: Adding hardware tokens to UA string

2012-09-13 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > Let me know what you think. Since Firefox OS is openly accessible to hardware vendors, wouldn't it be easy for them to override any decision made by Mozilla if they or their content partners would prefer it that way? Putting hardware tokens

Re: Minimum Required Python Version

2012-09-09 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Paul ADENOT wrote: > The next Ubuntu release will include Python 3, and not Python 2.x (on a > default install). > > However, as you note, Python 2.7 will be available as a separate package. I > just wanted to mention that, considering the number of people that use

Re: Moving Away from Makefile's

2012-08-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > Up until now, the focus has been on making Makefile.in's themselves generic > and data-driven [1]. We would use pymake's API to parse, load, and extract > data from Makefile.in's to construct the build definition. In the long run, > we'd real