Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2015-01-02 Thread Eric Shepherd
I feel a lot less embarrassed about not finding that bug number now that I know how long this thread has been running. :) Eric Shepherd Developer Documentation Lead Mozilla http://www.bitstampede.com/ On Dec 30, 2014, at 12:25 PM, L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org wrote: From the message at

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-30 Thread Eric Shepherd
Is there a bug for the changes being discussed here, and is it marked with dev-doc-needed? Sounds like there will be, at a minimum, a few tweaks to the discussion about how this stuff works. Thanks! Eric Shepherd Developer Documentation Lead Mozilla http://www.bitstampede.com/ On Dec 27,

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-30 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2014-12-30 12:14 -0500, Eric Shepherd wrote: Is there a bug for the changes being discussed here, and is it marked with dev-doc-needed? Sounds like there will be, at a minimum, a few tweaks to the discussion about how this stuff works. From the message at the start of the thread

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-27 10:12 +1100: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: ... Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... The difference in expression ability becomes more important when there are words mixed

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Masatoshi Kimura
On 2014/12/28 3:04, Michael[tm] Smith wrote: Further, I don't know of any typical case where if a base character is kana, why you'd ever want to display furigana/yomigana for it. Ruby is not used only for furigana/yomigana. I know one example from a very popular Japanese novel:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-27 10:12 +1100: On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: ... Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... The difference

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-27 Thread L. David Baron
On Sunday 2014-12-28 03:04 +0900, Michael[tm] Smith wrote: So as long as the spec is going to require UAs to resort to magic behavior, I think the magic could instead just be autohide any ruby annotations for kana characters. And then you could just have simpler markup like this:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:34:50 AM UTC+10, ian.h...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Koji Ishii wrote: Summary: Two recent HTML changes improve ruby support: 1) Addition of the rb and rtc elements (but not rbc); and 2) Matching update to the tag

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Michael[tm] Smith
Hi Xidorn, Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... If you want the word 明朝体 to be marked in ruby in separate form, with the WHATWG rules, you must write it as: ruby明rtみん/rt朝rtちょう/rt体rtたい/rt/ruby It is incompatible with the inline form, which means, if an author

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-12-26 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote: Hi Xidorn, Xidorn Quan quanxunz...@gmail.com, 2014-12-26 04:41 -0800: ... If you want the word 明朝体 to be marked in ruby in separate form, with the WHATWG rules, you must write it as:

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-07 Thread ian . hickson
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Koji Ishii wrote: Summary: Two recent HTML changes improve ruby support: 1) Addition of the rb and rtc elements (but not rbc); and 2) Matching update to the tag omission rules to make ruby authoring easier. By implementing these changes,

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout part implemented? My general take on this issue is: 1) As far

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread Cameron McCormack
On 02/07/14 17:05, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout part implemented? My

Re: Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-02 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2014-07-02 10:05 +0300, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Koji Ishii kojii...@gluesoft.co.jp wrote: Platform coverage: all platforms (parsing only, layout will be in separate intents) The parsing change is the easy part. Is there a plan to get the layout

Intent to implement and ship: Improved ruby parsing in HTML with new tag omission rules

2014-07-01 Thread Koji Ishii
Summary: Two recent HTML changes improve ruby support: 1) Addition of the rb and rtc elements (but not rbc); and 2) Matching update to the tag omission rules to make ruby authoring easier. By implementing these changes, Gecko supports the parsing side of all the ruby use cases required for the