Re: Study questions EV certs effectiveness?

2007-02-08 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Boris Zbarsky wrote: No. The URL is in the address bar. That's not the same thing: http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/login/foo?value=reallylongthingbecauseICan vs EVIL.COM Not that that would necessarily help with www.citibank.com.evil.com, mind you. ;) OK, got you -- Regards

Re: Flowchart covering SSL checks, error states, dialogs

2007-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: I could get more into details here, but I spare you that ;-). But the obvious is, that the very operators of the sites in question have the solution to the problem much closer at hand than anybody else! Really? Perhaps you could suggest it, if it's so easy.

Re: EV guidelines

2007-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Ben Bucksch wrote: But you have to know exactly when the CA is going to call. No, not necessarily. Caller ID. Reroute all calls coming from CA. We're in fantasy land now. If I can get control of all phone calls coming into and going out of a company, I wouldn't use a CA. I'd pick some

Re: EV guidelines

2007-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Ben Bucksch wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: If the checks were not performed properly by the CA, the CA is liable. No. If they follow the guidelines, they disclaim liability. Then the checks have been performed properly. You can't have it both ways. The CA can't both not perform the checks

Re: EV guidelines

2007-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: However I never heard from you that you agree with me - even partially - but outright dismissed my suggestions! It seems now, that for whatever reasons (because IE has it (???)), that you seem to come to a similar understanding... I don't really agree with

Re: Flowchart covering SSL checks, error states, dialogs

2007-02-08 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Gervase Markham wrote: Really? Perhaps you could suggest it, if it's so easy. No problem! We'd be glad to provide a workable and effective solution, should any web site operator contact us and request it. However I doubt that we are that much smarter than the developers of their sites

Re: EV guidelines

2007-02-08 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Gervase Markham wrote: I don't really agree with you, I'm afraid. :-) We should not display this information for non-EV certificates You continue with the mistake to withheld *INFORMATION*. This exactly why users today have no clue about SSL enabled sites whatsoever! The lack of accessible