Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-21 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Thursday, 22 August 2013 09:09:06 UTC+3, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: > If we really believed that shorter lifetime is required for the keys, > we would be replacing those CA keys already. I'd like to add that in my opinion, the lifetime should be decided by the user agent (default

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-21 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Friday, 16 August 2013 12:01:51 UTC+3, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 15/08/13 11:22, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: > > > No. The site's public key does not need to be changed to request a > > new certificate. > > Technically, no. But there are other occasions on

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-15 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 12:23:18 UTC+3, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 14/08/13 07:09, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: > > > I'd say that such a bookmark would be highly probably safe, if that > > bookmark did include fingerprint for the site public key (*not CA key > >

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-15 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:03:22 UTC+3, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Say you have an HTTPS bookmark to your bank. You visit it (your techie > > friend told you "always use this bookmark for your bank, and you'll be > > safe"), > > So now you trust a user writable reference over a non writable i

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-15 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:21:15 UTC+3, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > This is because the cheapest CAs do so bad work that the > > security is very close to self signed cert. > > Please show me evidence of startssl being less secure than some of the > big CAs that have had major incidents. You o

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-13 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:59:15 UTC+3, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 13/08/13 08:44, Mikko Rantalainen wrote: > > > I cannot speak for Ian, but I'd guess "neutral" mode means something > > along the lines "use encrypted connection but do not show any

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-13 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:59:24 UTC+3, Tanvi Vyas wrote: > I filed a bug for this and welcome feedback and > suggestions: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=903211. Thanks for the pointers. I added a comment to that bug. > On a side note, Ian mentioned a "neutral" mode for SSL, an

Re: War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-12 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
On Monday, 12 August 2013 11:27:59 UTC+3, ianG wrote: > The only 'solution' is really to put everything into the secure side. Unfortunately, I cannot control everything. I'm authoring a kind of CMS system for educational use and I need to support user authored content. The whole system uses onl

War on Mixed Content - Why?

2013-08-12 Thread mikko . rantalainen
I had totally missed that Firefox 23 turned on Mixed Content blocking. What is the rationale for that? I'm aware that MSIE blocked mixed content but I always considered that a bug. In short, I see mixed content blocking pros and cons as follows: Pros: (1) Avoid MitM attack for HTTPS sites that