Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-25 Thread Randell Jesup
wser-to-browsers calls, especially with untrusted JS code. (Note that the Threat Model for rtcweb (IETF's part of WebRTC) is the JS code is untrusted and may be evil or compromised; see the IETF security drafts for rtcweb for details.) -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp remove ".news"

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-25 Thread Randell Jesup
to a "safe" implementation, and if it was "safe" users would probably hate it. If they can be made to work... then maybe I can be convinced. I'm less enamoured of them than I was back then. No matter how many you try to think of, there will be uses that don't fit your

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ach call, and app developers will not want to have "fixed" call/end buttons they can't style (and I don't think this works anyways). This *is* a dangerous ability to give, though it's equivalent to what users grant Skype or WebEx or Hangouts already by installing them (

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
r WebEx or Hangouts already by installing them (perhaps less, actually). -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corporation Remove ".news" for personal email ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ther tab or window, and perhaps in the system tray as well - and this requirement is especially problematic for mobile apps.) -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corporation Remove ".news" for personal email ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ould also note that WebRTC is trying to make a minimum set of security requirements, though it leaves the mechanism and UIs up to the browser. See http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-02 -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corporation Remove ".news" for personal email _

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Web Telephony

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ory issues are quite different from country to country. -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp remove ".news" for personal email ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
he issues and some possible solutions (leveraging cross-origin controls) are detailed in my slides here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2012/01/31/rtcweb/slides/rtcweb-2.pdf My apologies for complicating the issue, but we need the solution for image/video capture to not box in the de

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Web Telephony

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ory issues are quite different from country to country. -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp remove ".news" for personal email ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ted it, and with a timeout they have little time to read it, or to consider, or to see if they should trust (check online resources about "is this app trustworthy?"), etc. -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp remove ".news" for personal email

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-24 Thread Randell Jesup
ive, though it's equivalent to what users grant Skype or WebEx or Hangouts already by installing them (perhaps less, actually). -- Randell Jesup randell-i...@jesup.org ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Web Telephony

2012-04-17 Thread Randell Jesup
in conversation: > >1. There is a regulatory frame around E-911 that we need to understand. > Do we need to indicate, through the API, that a device can be used > for 911 calls but not other calls? And don't forget that the regulatory issues are quite different from country to countr

Re: [b2g] WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-17 Thread Randell Jesup
ss-origin controls) are detailed in my slides here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2012/01/31/rtcweb/slides/rtcweb-2.pdf My apologies for complicating the issue, but we need the solution for image/video capture to not box in the design for WebRTC. -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security

Re: WebAPI Security Discussion: Camera API

2012-04-17 Thread Randell Jesup
e time to read it, or to consider, or to see if they should trust (check online resources about "is this app trustworthy?"), etc. -- Randell Jesup, Mozilla Corp ___ dev-security mailing list dev-security@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security