Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-31 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 19/05/17 13:55, Gervase Markham wrote: > "CAs whose certificates are included in Mozilla's root program MUST: > . > * follow industry best practice for securing their networks, for example > by conforming to the CAB Forum Network Security Guidelines or a > successor document;" Implemented

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-24 Thread Peter Kurrasch via dev-security-policy
Fair enough. This is absolutely the sort of stuff that needs to be part of regular auditing. I was wondering what sort of checking or enforcement you had in mind by including it in the Mozilla policy now? Perhaps

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-24 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 24/05/17 15:31, Peter Kurrasch wrote: > It might be fair to characterize my position as "vague but > comprehensive"...if that's even possible? There are some standard-ish > frameworks that could be adopted: I think we would prefer to wait for the CAB Forum to adopt something rather than

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-24 Thread Peter Kurrasch via dev-security-policy
It might be fair to characterize my position as "vague but comprehensive"...if that's even possible? There are some standard-ish frameworks that could be adopted:- NIST has an existing framework that is currently

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-23 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 23/05/17 04:18, Peter Kurrasch wrote: > I think the term "industry best practices" is too nebulous. For > example, if I patch some of my systems but not all of them I could > still make a claim that I am following best practices even though my > network has plenty of other holes in it. I'm not

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-22 Thread Peter Kurrasch via dev-security-policy
security-policy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:56 AM To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Reply To: Gervase Markham Subject: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security At the moment, the CAB Forum's Network Security guidelines are audited as part of an SSL

Policy 2.5 Proposal: Require all CAs to have appropriate network security

2017-05-19 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
At the moment, the CAB Forum's Network Security guidelines are audited as part of an SSL BR audit. This means that CAs or sub-CAs which only do email don't technically have to meet them. However, they also have a number of deficiencies, and the CAB Forum is looking at replacing them with something