Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
One of the ways in which the number of organizations trusted to issue for the WebPKI is extended is by an existing CA bestowing the power of issuance upon a third party in the form of control of a non-technically-constrained subCA. Examples of such are the Google and Apple subCAs under GeoTrust, bu

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
I think this would be of great benefit to the community. 1) It provides meaningful opportunity to ensure that the Mozilla-specific program requirements are being met. The spate of misissuances discussed in the past few months have revealed an unfortunately common trend of CAs not staying aware of

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Doug Beattie via dev-security-policy
.beattie=globalsign@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of > Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 11:28 AM > To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party > subCAs > >

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
Hi Doug, On 24/10/17 16:43, Doug Beattie wrote: > I assume this applies equally to cross signing, Yes. > but not to "Vanity" CAs that are set up and run by the CA on behalf of a > customer. If you have physical control of the intermediate and control of issuance, it doesn't apply. Gerv

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy
bject: RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs Gerv, I assume this applies equally to cross signing, but not to "Vanity" CAs that are set up and run by the CA on behalf of a customer. Is that accurate? Doug > -Original Message- &g

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
44 AM To: Gervase Markham ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org Subject: RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs Gerv, I assume this applies equally to cross signing, but not to "Vanity" CAs that are set up and run by the CA on behalf of a

Re: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Eric Mill via dev-security-policy
24, 2017 9:44 AM > To: Gervase Markham ; > mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of > 3rd > party subCAs > > Gerv, > > I assume this applies equally to cross signing, but not to "Vanity" CAs > t

RE: Proposed policy change: require private pre-notification of 3rd party subCAs

2017-10-24 Thread Ben Wilson via dev-security-policy
org> ] On Behalf Of Doug Beattie via dev-security-policy Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:44 AM To: Gervase Markham mailto:g...@mozilla.org> >; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org <mailto:mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org> Subject: RE: Proposed policy change: req