Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-08-01 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
This discussion has covered a lot of ground. Here are my comments: 1. Nazwa is not independently audited, nor are they a member of the Mozilla root program. I am also unable to locate any information that makes Nazwa an Affiliate of Certum. I believe they are simply a Certum reseller. In this

RE: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-31 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
with the browser and public From: Ryan Sleevi Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:25 PM To: Jeremy Rowley Cc: Jakob Bohm ; Tim Hollebeek ; mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; r...@sleevi.com Subject: Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 2:17 PM Jeremy

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-31 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 27/07/2018 08:46, Jakob Bohm wrote: On 26/07/2018 23:04, Matthew Hardeman wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Tom Delmas via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: The party actually running the authoritative DNS servers is in control of the domain. I'm

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-28 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
018 8:01 PM > To: Tim Hollebeek > Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Jakob Bohm < > jb-mozi...@wisemo.com> > Subject: Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl > > I disagree that a series of categories is good or helpful to the community. > > I thin

RE: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-27 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
-security-policy On Behalf Of Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:01 PM To: Tim Hollebeek Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Jakob Bohm Subject: Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl I disagree that a series of categories is good or helpful

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-27 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
um. > > -Tim > > > -Original Message- > > From: dev-security-policy > bounces+tim.hollebeek=digicert@lists.mozilla.org> On Behalf Of Jakob > > Bohm via dev-security-policy > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:46 AM > > To: mozilla-dev-security-po

RE: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-27 Thread Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy
. -Tim > -Original Message- > From: dev-security-policy bounces+tim.hollebeek=digicert@lists.mozilla.org> On Behalf Of Jakob > Bohm via dev-security-policy > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:46 AM > To: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Re: Poss

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-27 Thread Tom Ritter via dev-security-policy
Thanks Jakob, I think you summed things up well. -tom On 27 July 2018 at 01:46, Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy wrote: > On 26/07/2018 23:04, Matthew Hardeman wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Tom Delmas via dev-security-policy < >> dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-27 Thread Jakob Bohm via dev-security-policy
On 26/07/2018 23:04, Matthew Hardeman wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Tom Delmas via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: The party actually running the authoritative DNS servers is in control of the domain. I'm not sure I agree. They can control the

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-26 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Tom Delmas via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > > > The party actually running the authoritative DNS servers is in control > of the domain. > > I'm not sure I agree. They can control the domain, but they are supposed > to be

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-26 Thread Tom Delmas via dev-security-policy
> The party actually running the authoritative DNS servers is in control of the domain. I'm not sure I agree. They can control the domain, but they are supposed to be subordinate of the domain owner. If they did something without the owner consent/approval, it really looks like a domain

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-26 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
I think the whole point of domain validation certificates is taking the human part out of it and verifying technical control of the domain as the standard upon which to base issuance. Since the CA is also the DNS server, it's more or less a given that they certainly can or would successfully

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-26 Thread Tom via dev-security-policy
On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:08:59 UTC, michel.le...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > My domain registrar who is also a certificate authority just issued a > precertificate (visible in CT logs) and a valid > certificate for my domain. This is part of their new offer to automatically > offer free

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-26 Thread Wojciech Trapczyński via dev-security-policy
W dniu 25.07.2018 o 23:21, Quirin Scheitle via dev-security-policy pisze: Hi Michel, On 23. Jul 2018, at 22:36, michel.lebihan2000--- via dev-security-policy wrote: I think my domain registrar just violated my CAA by issuing that certificate. Where they allowed to issue this certificate?

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-25 Thread Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy
Yes, I thought there was an exemption for that also. The A-DNS operator could always just momentarily change the records to authorize anyway, so why bother with the check? On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Quirin Scheitle via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: >

Re: Possible violation of CAA by nazwa.pl

2018-07-25 Thread Quirin Scheitle via dev-security-policy
Hi Michel, > On 23. Jul 2018, at 22:36, michel.lebihan2000--- via dev-security-policy > wrote: > > I think my domain registrar just violated my CAA by issuing that > certificate. Where they allowed to issue this certificate? the name servers for lebihan.pl are ns[1-3].nazwa.pl. , which