Re: DarkMatter CAs in Google Chrome and Android

2019-07-25 Thread Nick Lamb via dev-security-policy
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:16:44 -0500 Matthew Hardeman via dev-security-policy wrote: > Perhaps I misunderstand, but this would seem to suggest that there be > direct penalties for mere pursuit of due process. Mmm? Due process is something a minority of sovereign entities promise (though they are

Re: DarkMatter CAs in Google Chrome and Android

2019-07-25 Thread okaphone.elektronika--- via dev-security-policy
I did not consider it useful to say it, so I didn't. But I was certainly thinking that "try... over the heads of people who make the decision" bit, when the "appeal" got posted. ;-) Is there such a thing as a right to be trusted? Interesting question... I would say there isn't, trust cannot be

Re: DarkMatter CAs in Google Chrome and Android

2019-07-25 Thread Nick Lamb via dev-security-policy
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:32:41 + Scott Rea via dev-security-policy wrote: > As you are aware, DarkMatter and DigitalTrust have appealed the > decision by Mozilla on the basis of multiple elements which have also > be published to the list. Has the appeal or any of the points at the > heart of

Re: DarkMatter CAs in Google Chrome and Android

2019-07-25 Thread Scott Rea via dev-security-policy
G’day Devon et al, It would appear that Chrome has implemented distrust of the UAE NPKI intermediates immediately - can you please explain the rationalization for this decision? These intermediates have been operating without issue for a few years now, what was the rationale for immediate