Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Julien Pierre
Ryan, On 12/31/2012 11:43, Ryan Sleevi wrote: So far, the two proposals are: 1) Nag the user whenever they want to make a new secure connection. This nag screen is not shown over HTTP, so clearly, HTTP is preferable here. 2) Respect national borders on the Internet. If anything, the more user

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Mon, December 31, 2012 10:23 am, Kai Engert wrote: > On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:26 +0100, Kai Engert wrote: > > I propose to more actively involve users into the process of accepting > > certificates for domains. > > I propose the following in addition: > > Each CA certificate shall have a sing

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Kai Engert
On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:26 +0100, Kai Engert wrote: > I propose to more actively involve users into the process of accepting > certificates for domains. I propose the following in addition: Each CA certificate shall have a single country where the CA organization is physically located (they alr

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Eitan Adler
On 31 December 2012 11:23, Kai Engert wrote: > It could be an opt-in feature, advertised through some kind of > notification popup. http://patrol.psyced.org/ ? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/certificate-patrol/ ? -- Eitan Adler -- dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto@

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Kai Engert
On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 11:17 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > Expect the user to click yes to every dialog if prompted without reading. > > [*] note, I am not talking about people like you or I that have an > understanding of the implications here. I am talking about the > typical user that studies ha

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Eitan Adler
On 31 December 2012 11:06, Kai Engert wrote: > On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 10:38 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: >> * user gets confused: "what the heck is this screen"? > > It's good if users are educated what is going on. How is adding another annoying not-going-to-be-read dialog "educating" users? > We c

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Kai Engert
On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 10:38 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > * user gets confused: "what the heck is this screen"? It's good if users are educated what is going on. We could have a switch to completely turn this off, if the user really doesn't care. > * user realizes that pressing yes usually works

Re: Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Eitan Adler
On 31 December 2012 10:18, Kai Engert wrote: > I propose to more actively involve users into the process of accepting > certificates for domains. > > I envision a UI where users are required to approve once, whether the > combination of a CA and a domain is acceptable to the user. > > The followin

Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Kai Engert
I propose to more actively involve users into the process of accepting certificates for domains. I envision a UI where users are required to approve once, whether the combination of a CA and a domain is acceptable to the user. The following UI would be shown whenever a user starts a connection to

Proposing: Interactive Domain Verification Approval

2012-12-31 Thread Kai Engert
I propose to more actively involve users into the process of accepting certificates for domains. I envision a UI where users are required to approve once, whether the combination of a CA and a domain is acceptable to the user. The following UI would be shown whenever a user starts a connection to