Re: CEN TS 15480 (Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers)

2009-07-07 Thread Anders Rundgren
Thanx for this information Jean-Marc! The smart card people are doing what they can to confuse the market. How all these EU standards and national initiatives relate to each other is close to a mystery. A taste of the current soup includes: SCP - Secure Channel Protocol PKCS #15 - Structure us

Re: CEN TS 15480 (Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers)

2009-07-06 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Anders Rundgren wrote: we see the start of going out of that through the European Citizen Card (ECC) standard "CEN TS 15480" This is something I really hate: http://www.evs.ee/product/tabid/59/p-165216-cents-15480-22007.aspx Paying for *open* standards! In fact, I'm not sure I directed you to

CEN TS 15480 (Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers)

2009-07-03 Thread Anders Rundgren
The URLs didn't work so I repost it and this time with a correct subject line... This is something I really hate: http://www.evs.ee/product/tabid/59/p-165216-cents-15480-22007.aspx Paying for *open* standards! Anyway, this scheme will get hard competition from a lot of places including the token

Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers

2009-07-03 Thread Anders Rundgren
This is something I really hate: http://www.evs.ee/product/tabid/59/p-165216-cents-15480-22007.aspx Paying for *open* standards! Anyway, this scheme will get hard competition from a lot of places including the token vendors who certainly do not want to become replaceable like USB memory sticks.

Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers (was: Problem reading certificate from hardware token)

2009-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Kyle Hamilton wrote: I'm not aware of any such profile. There is smart card profile > but I doubt it has much to do with PKCS #11, it is rather about > 7816. You're right, PKCS#11. http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/EH_MR_rev1.pdf But what is "7861"? He's refering to ISO7816, the set of s

Re: USB device profile for smart-card readers (was: Problem reading certificate from hardware token)

2009-07-02 Thread Anders Rundgren
Kyle Hamilton wrote: "3) There is no desire at/for the bank to allow smart-card login, because there are alternatives that are more useful" Exactly! It doesn't work for the really useful applications that could drive the market. Anders PS. There were some oddities in the USB/P11/OS/7816/Mo

USB device profile for smart-card readers (was: Problem reading certificate from hardware token)

2009-07-02 Thread Kyle Hamilton
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Anders Rundgren wrote: > PKCS #10?  I guess you really meant PKCS #11. > > I'm not aware of any such profile.  There is smart card profile > but I doubt it has much to do with PKCS #11, it is rather about > 7816. You're right, PKCS#11. http://www.usb.org/developers