Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 09/07/2010 07:32 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 18:20 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> ??? This was done 100% Fedora-side (not that I mind if it were adopted >> by other distros) > > Ok, lets go with another example of integration then: file-roller can > use PackageKit to

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-07 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:41 -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote: > On 09/07/2010 05:33 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >Problem with yum - I cannot seem to find the equivalent of the --test > > rpm option ? Well you can do: yum blah --setopt=tsflags=test ...which is exactly --test, including running

Reminder: Rebuild all translated packages

2010-09-07 Thread noriko
Dear package maintainers This is kind reminder. It was software translation deadline on 2010-09-07, and many languages translation have been updated or completed 100%. Please make sure latest translation are picked up for rebuilding packages. It is expected to rebuild all translated packages be

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > I just hit this on an f13 box. > > > > Transaction Check Error: > > package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than > > libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is a

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-07 Thread Elio Maldonado
On 09/07/2010 05:33 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/07/2010 12:52 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote: > >>> >> Gene, >> >> There is in now nss-3.12.7-4.fc13 in bodhi. >> Regarding >> >> error: Failed dependencies: >> pkgconfig(nss) is needed by (installed) >> evolution-data-server-devel-2.30.3-1.fc

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-07 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 09/07/2010 05:33 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/07/2010 12:52 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote: > >> Gene, >> >> There is in now nss-3.12.7-4.fc13 in bodhi. >> Regarding >> >> error: Failed dependencies: >> pkgconfig(nss) is needed by (installed) >> evolution-data-server-devel-2.30.3-1.fc13.x8

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/07/2010 12:52 PM, Elio Maldonado wrote: >> > Gene, > > There is in now nss-3.12.7-4.fc13 in bodhi. > Regarding > > error: Failed dependencies: > pkgconfig(nss) is needed by (installed) > evolution-data-server-devel-2.30.3-1.fc13.x86_64 > > You could try a 'sudo yum update --verbo

Re: git usage question

2010-09-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 19:24:58 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I need to make a minor edit to one of the sources of a package. I want the > sources on my machine in a state so that emacs will recognize the files are > under git control and act accordingly, so I can do my edits and use emacs >

bodhi time management?

2010-09-07 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
Hi All, How do the bodhi 7 days timeframes for updates work? My understanding is that an update is required to be in updates for 7 days. I have an update that according to bodhi was submitted as an update on the 29th Aug at 18:13. It was pushed to updates-testing at 19:42 the following day (Aug 30

git usage question

2010-09-07 Thread Neal Becker
I need to make a minor edit to one of the sources of a package. I want the sources on my machine in a state so that emacs will recognize the files are under git control and act accordingly, so I can do my edits and use emacs vc-mode stuff to commit, diff, etc. I tried using fedpkg clone + fedp

How long is a week?

2010-09-07 Thread Björn Persson
Quote from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria: All other updates must either: · reach the criteria laid out in the previous section OR · reach the positive Bodhi karma threshold specified by the updates submitter OR · spend some minimum amount of time in

Fedora 14 Beta Change Deadline 2010-09-14

2010-09-07 Thread John Poelstra
In addition, to next Tuesday (2010-09-14) being the Feature Complete deadline for Fedora 14, it is also the Beta Change Deadline. "At the change deadline, pushes to the branched development repository are suspended until the release candidate is accepted." More about what this means is here: ht

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > How does that manage to build in Koji, which doesn't exactly have bigger > systems, just more of them. Koji doesn't use tmpfs for the buildroots, nor does it time out builds after 6 hours like I do... -- Matt Domsch Technology Stra

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:02:05PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: >> > paraview-3.8.0-4.fc14 (build/make) orion,pertusus >> >> Sorry [Errno 28] No space left on device >> >> Looks like a check for th

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/7/10 2:41 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 09/07/2010 03:34 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:02:05PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: paraview-3.8.0-4.fc14 (build/make) orion,pert

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/07/2010 03:34 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:02:05PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: >>> paraview-3.8.0-4.fc14 (build/make) orion,pertusus >> >> Sorry [Errno 28] No space left on device >> >> Looks like a check for that is in or

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:02:05PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > > paraview-3.8.0-4.fc14 (build/make) orion,pertusus > > Sorry [Errno 28] No space left on device > > Looks like a check for that is in order. Holy cow. So, 8GB RAM, 16GB swap, over 4

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-09-07)

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-07) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-07/fesco.2010-09-07-19.30.log.html .. Meeting summary ---

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 x86_64

2010-09-07 Thread Matt Domsch
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 02:40:37AM +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Matt Domsch wrote, at 09/07/2010 11:24 AM +9:00: > > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for x86_64 > > using rawhide from 2010-09-01 > > > > Full rebuild of all packages. Each failed package was retried two > > additional time

[Bug 631068] FTBFS perl-HTML-FormFu-0.07002-1.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631068 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

[Bug 631078] FTBFS perl-DBIx-Class-0.08120-4.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631078 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

[Bug 630539] perl-DBIx-Class FTBFS (0.08120 possibly incompatible with perl-SQL-Abstract-1.67)

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630539 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

[Bug 630539] perl-DBIx-Class FTBFS (0.08120 possibly incompatible with perl-SQL-Abstract-1.67)

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630539 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 17:32, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> And BTW a request at the time was to extend it with font previews to get >> a "font store" (because for fonts, gfx preview is really relevant and >> not eye candy) and it never happened :( > > If you send a patch it might ! A patch would be lov

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 17:20, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > ??? This was done 100% Fedora-side (not that I mind if it were adopted > by other distros) Incorrect. It was done on the Fedora transifex instance, but I know from fact that a few of the translators are from other distros, who have no interest i

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 x86_64

2010-09-07 Thread Björn Persson
Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Would you clarify if this build results are for rawhide (i.e. F-15) > tree or for F-14 tree? It looks like F-14 to me. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedo

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 x86_64

2010-09-07 Thread Björn Persson
Matt Domsch wrote: > rombobeorn: PragmARC,mine_detector Those fail because of this GCC bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613407 I have a workaround in updates-testing, but the actual bug looks like it will last long. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: NM during install - howto setup on boot?

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 16:57 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > I was participating in the Systemd Fedora Test Day and installed the > latest Fedora 14 build. I found a few problems (I will file bugs) but > before I file a bug about NetworkManager, can someone please tell me how > I'm supposed to configur

NM during install - howto setup on boot?

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Masters
Folks, I was participating in the Systemd Fedora Test Day and installed the latest Fedora 14 build. I found a few problems (I will file bugs) but before I file a bug about NetworkManager, can someone please tell me how I'm supposed to configure it during install such that the interface will come u

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Tom Lane
Toshio Kuratomi writes: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: >> Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs from being >> built if an older one exists in a newer buildroot ? Should it ? Is >> there a valid reason for ever allowing this to happen? > The buildsys

[Bug 630714] perl-Module-Signature-0.66 is available

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630714 --- Comment #6 from Paul Howarth 2010-09-07 16:03:16 EDT --- Clearly my perl-fu is not as strong as yours ;-) -- Configure bug

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for i386 > using rawhide from 2010-09-01 > > Full rebuild of all packages. Each failed package was retried two > additional times. Those listed below have failed at least three > attempts to build. > > Sorry I

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > I just hit this on an f13 box. > > Transaction Check Error: > package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than > libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed > > > Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs

[Bug 630714] perl-Module-Signature-0.66 is available

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630714 Ville Skyttä changed: What|Removed |Added --

Re: yum's algorithm for resolving dependencies

2010-09-07 Thread Andre Robatino
seth vidal fedoraproject.org> writes: > http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/CompareProviders > > that's how it does it. Thanks. I didn't understand all of that, but since it only describes the current algorithm in detail, and the instructions refer to all versions of Fedora back to F10, and I still don

[Bug 631391] New: FTBFS perl-GD-2.44-4.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-GD-2.44-4.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631391 Summary: FTBFS perl-GD-2.44-4.fc14 Product: Fedora Version: 1

Re: yum's algorithm for resolving dependencies

2010-09-07 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 18:24 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > When installing packages with yum, if there is more than one enabled > repository > that can be used to resolve a dependency, how does yum choose which one to > use? > > I ask because I modified the instructions for installing the 32-bit

yum's algorithm for resolving dependencies

2010-09-07 Thread Andre Robatino
When installing packages with yum, if there is more than one enabled repository that can be used to resolve a dependency, how does yum choose which one to use? I ask because I modified the instructions for installing the 32-bit wrapped Flash plugin in 64-bit Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: New Bugzilla URL to create Fedora Review Requests coming

2010-09-07 Thread Michael Stahnke
I believe this has it as well. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/NewPackageProcess -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Retiring or orphaning pam_smb

2010-09-07 Thread Simo Sorce
Hello all, I have recently discovered I am still owner of pam_smb :-) and I think I would like to retire this package entirely, for I find it useless and even dangerous. If someone is interested in picking up maintainership because they need it I am also willing to just orphan it. Any takers ? I

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 x86_64

2010-09-07 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Matt Domsch wrote, at 09/07/2010 11:24 AM +9:00: > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for x86_64 > using rawhide from 2010-09-01 > > Full rebuild of all packages. Each failed package was retried two > additional times. Those listed below have failed at least three > attempts to build. > >

[Bug 631224] New: FTBFS perl-DBD-Multi-0.14-6.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-DBD-Multi-0.14-6.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631224 Summary: FTBFS perl-DBD-Multi-0.14-6.fc14 Product: Fedora

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Victor Vasilyev
From viewpoint of the package freemarker-2.3.13-8.fc14 the issue is in the package javamail-1.4.3-2.fc13.src.rpm: "... Internal error in the plugin manager executing goal 'org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-javadoc-plugin:2.7:javadoc': Unable to load the mojo 'org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-javado

[Bug 631192] New: FTBFS perl-Log-Log4perl-1.24-3.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-Log-Log4perl-1.24-3.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631192 Summary: FTBFS perl-Log-Log4perl-1.24-3.fc14 Product: Fedora

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 x86_64

2010-09-07 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/06/2010 08:24 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for x86_64 > using rawhide from 2010-09-01 > > Full rebuild of all packages. Each failed package was retried two > additional times. Those listed below have failed at least three > attempts to build. > > Sorry

[Bug 631166] New: FTBFS perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-4.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-4.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631166 Summary: FTBFS perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-4.fc14 Product: Fedora

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 12:23:47PM -0400, James Antill wrote: > > This is goes along with the only definition of application that I am > > aware of. Postifx is a system service. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_software > > Application software, also known as an application, is c

Re: New Bugzilla URL to create Fedora Review Requests coming

2010-09-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > probably on 2010-09-09 the Bugzilla URL to create new Fedora Review > Requests will change to remove one more relict of the former Fedora Core > / Extras split.  The new URL will be: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedor

[Bug 631141] New: FTBFS ocaml-deriving-0.1.1a-10.fc13

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS ocaml-deriving-0.1.1a-10.fc13 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631141 Summary: FTBFS ocaml-deriving-0.1.1a-10.fc13 Product: Fedora

[Bug 631131] New: FTBFS perl-RRD-Simple-1.44-7.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-RRD-Simple-1.44-7.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631131 Summary: FTBFS perl-RRD-Simple-1.44-7.fc14 Product: Fedora

New Bugzilla URL to create Fedora Review Requests coming

2010-09-07 Thread Till Maas
Hi, probably on 2010-09-09 the Bugzilla URL to create new Fedora Review Requests will change to remove one more relict of the former Fedora Core / Extras split. The new URL will be: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&format=fedora-review Please remember to update your bookm

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-07 Thread Elio Maldonado
On 09/06/2010 10:39 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 09/06/2010 01:14 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 09/06/2010 05:22 AM, mike cloaked wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: There is a build in koji for 3.12.7 for f13 (and f14): http://koji

[Bug 631112] New: FTBFS ocaml-lablgtk-2.14.0-4.fc13

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS ocaml-lablgtk-2.14.0-4.fc13 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631112 Summary: FTBFS ocaml-lablgtk-2.14.0-4.fc13 Product: Fedora

[Bug 631074] New: FTBFS ocaml-cil-1.3.7-6.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS ocaml-cil-1.3.7-6.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631074 Summary: FTBFS ocaml-cil-1.3.7-6.fc14 Product: Fedora Vers

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 18:20 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mardi 07 septembre 2010 à 09:51 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > > > It gets us translations that we would not otherwise have, and it gets us > > integration in the rest of the desktop, like automatic font or codec > > installation.

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 07 septembre 2010 à 18:20 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > Le mardi 07 septembre 2010 à 09:51 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > > > It gets us translations that we would not otherwise have, and it gets us > > integration in the rest of the desktop, like automatic font or codec > > inst

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 11:48 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, James Antill wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > >> On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: > >> > Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 07 septembre 2010 à 09:51 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > It gets us translations that we would not otherwise have, and it gets us > integration in the rest of the desktop, like automatic font or codec > installation. ??? This was done 100% Fedora-side (not that I mind if it were ado

[Bug 631042] New: FTBFS perl-Test-Email-0.04-5.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS perl-Test-Email-0.04-5.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631042 Summary: FTBFS perl-Test-Email-0.04-5.fc14 Product: Fedora

[Bug 631032] New: FTBFS pcsc-perl-1.4.8-3.fc14

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: FTBFS pcsc-perl-1.4.8-3.fc14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631032 Summary: FTBFS pcsc-perl-1.4.8-3.fc14 Product: Fedora Vers

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 16:54 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 7 September 2010 16:39, James Antill wrote: > > However this is very much the same problem as a user trying to find > > "sql server" and getting results like "voms-mysql-plugin" etc. If you > > intentionally ignore this problem, it jus

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > I just hit this on an f13 box. > > Transaction Check Error: > package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than > libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed > > > Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs

newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Jones
I just hit this on an f13 box. Transaction Check Error: package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs from being built if an older one exists in a newer buildroot ? Should it ?

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 16:39, James Antill wrote: >  However this is very much the same problem as a user trying to find > "sql server" and getting results like "voms-mysql-plugin" etc. If you > intentionally ignore this problem, it just means even more work in the > long term as we have to change th

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, James Antill wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: >> On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: >> >  Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix, or is >> > version 2 going to be just GUI stuff? >> >> Postfix is

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: > > Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix, or is > > version 2 going to be just GUI stuff? > > Postfix is not an application. Applications have translated desktop >

KDE-SIG meeting report (36/2010)

2010-09-07 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 10:42:54 AM, Richard wrote: > On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: > This isn't repodata, it's a separate data package. You /could/ push > the icons.tar.gz and desktop sqlite database as repodata, although > it's not going to change for the duration of eac

F-14 Branched report: 20100907 changes

2010-09-07 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 7 13:15:51 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnarl-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnat-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.x86_64 req

[Bug 630802] perl-Test-Smoke must not provide perl(Mail::Sendmail)

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630802 --- Comment #2 from Ralf Corsepius 2010-09-07 11:00:10 EDT --- Why did you reset this BZ's priority? This bug a) breaks build

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill wrote: >  Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix, or is > version 2 going to be just GUI stuff? Postfix is not an application. Applications have translated desktop files and icons. >  I assume you have a plan for making this repodat

All Features 100% Complete by 2010-09-14

2010-09-07 Thread John Poelstra
Hello Feature People, According to our schedule, seven days from today is Feature Complete for Fedora 14. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/Schedule On September 14, 2010, all features must be 100% complete (not including bug fixes). Features that are not 100% complete will be sent t

bluefish license changing from GPLv2+ to GPLv3+

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Howarth
bluefish's license has changed to GPLv3+ from 2.0.2-rc1, which will be landing in Rawhide soon. Paul. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 14:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 7 September 2010 14:11, seth vidal wrote: > > okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific? > > For the same reason as pirut and pup were replaced. Fedora is *not* a > big enough ecosystem to drive fully localized

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 09/07/2010 04:51 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:39 -0400, seth vidal wrote: >> >> So all the time you spent writing a compat layer of code for OTHER >> distros gets fedora what? > > It gets us translations that we would not otherwise have, and it gets us > integration in t

Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-09-07 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Mon 06-Sep Fri 10-Sep Daily Review & Notification of Open Beta Blocker Bugs Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Software: Start Rebuild all translated packages Tue 07-Sep Tue 14-Sep Software: Rebuild all translated packages Thu 09-Sep Thu 09-Sep Create Beta Test Compose (TC)

Re: mock-scm - a simple utility to integrate Mock with SCMs

2010-09-07 Thread Marko Myllynen
Hi, >> Well, until now: mock-scm fetches spec and other files from SCM and >> source packages either from SCM or a local directory, then it constructs >> the source RPM on the fly and feeds it to Mock and finally collects the >> results. So nothing extraordinary but might come in handy for those w

Re: Release Notes Draft

2010-09-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:01:40AM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote: > Certainly we would welcome more detail. You should feel free to provide > it on the wiki. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Boot *nod* > I'm less sure about moving it. Since there were no other significant > changes

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:39 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 14:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On 7 September 2010 14:11, seth vidal wrote: > > > okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific? > > > > For the same reason as pirut and pup were replaced. Fed

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 14:39, seth vidal wrote: > Except we don't seem to do that. Over half of all commits to PK are from > you. The next closest committer has 6% of commits. If I exclude the > backends and translations then PK is written almost exclusively by you. I'm not sure I get your logic. Lo

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 14:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 7 September 2010 14:11, seth vidal wrote: > > okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific? > > For the same reason as pirut and pup were replaced. Fedora is *not* a > big enough ecosystem to drive fully localized

Re: Release Notes Draft

2010-09-07 Thread John J. McDonough
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:01 -0400, Christopher Antila wrote: > Hi John: > > I made changes to (i.e. "finally completed") the KDE portion of the > wiki's "Desktop" beat a few days ago, and they are not in the draft. I > will add these to the git version today/tonight. If there's anything > that I

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:19 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > On 09/07/2010 05:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > > Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and ins

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 09:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 09/07/2010 05:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install, > > > which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 14:11, seth vidal wrote: > okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific? For the same reason as pirut and pup were replaced. Fedora is *not* a big enough ecosystem to drive fully localized and feature rich user experiences. Working with other distros mean

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/07/2010 05:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install, > > which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for end users. How > > many times have you been prompted with an

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
2010/9/7 Miloslav Trmač : > Um, do I understand this correctly that e.g. a kernel update usually > won't get installed because it belongs in "system infrastructure" and > few packages depend on "kernel"? By default, all updates will be selected, even those in the system infrastructure group. Rich

Re: Release Notes Draft

2010-09-07 Thread John J. McDonough
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 00:14 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 11:45:53AM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote: > > A number of beats were blank, and some of them probably should be, but I > > left them in the document for now as a reminder in case you are aware of > > something that

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread drago01
2010/9/7 Miloslav Trmač : > Richard Hughes píše v Út 07. 09. 2010 v 12:46 +0100: >> The updater will be an improved version of the old package updater, >> and anything that's not an application (e.g. PackageKit-libs-devel) >> will be under a group (not shown in the screenshot) called "System >> inf

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Richard Hughes píše v Út 07. 09. 2010 v 12:46 +0100: > The updater will be an improved version of the old package updater, > and anything that's not an application (e.g. PackageKit-libs-devel) > will be under a group (not shown in the screenshot) called "System > infrastructure". If you update an

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
On 7 September 2010 12:57, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Thoughts on making the software center less distro specific?  Couldn't > the UI be grafted on top of the PK api? app-install is completely distro-neutral. GNOME PackageKit and KPackageKit get the same kind of data from app-install for each distro

Recently FTBFS stfl, fails on ruby installation

2010-09-07 Thread Thomas Janssen
Hi, i tested today why stfl FTBFS. I found out that it doesn't installs a file into /usr/lib.. but lib/.. That happens just for the ruby part of stfl, the perl parts getting installed into /usr/lib.. just fine. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2450778&name=build.log I checked (t

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/07/2010 05:16 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install, > which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for end users. How > many times have you been prompted with an update list that asks you to > decide whether to update somethin

rawhide report: 20100907 changes

2010-09-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 7 08:15:37 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- RackTables-0.18.4-1.fc15.noarch requires perl(File::FnMatch) antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 claws-mail-plugins-g

[Bug 555448] FTBFS perl-Module-Install-0.91-2.fc12

2010-09-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555448 Marcela Mašláňová changed: What|Removed |Added -

Linux and application installing

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Hughes
Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install, which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for end users. How many times have you been prompted with an update list that asks you to decide whether to update something you have no idea about[1]? Mo illustrated[2] a few d

Re: krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13

2010-09-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > PS. I'm not a package maintainer, so I cannot actually do that. I meant to say I'm not _the_ package maintainer, so I cannot change this package. -- Bojan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

[Test-Announce] Proven Testers procedure update: updates which do not fix bugs they claim to fix

2010-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Attention all Proven Testers (and all testers, too!) Please note this addition to the proven tester procedure: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Proven_tester&diff=195994&oldid=193694 basically, an update not fixing a bug it claims to fix is not a cause for negative karma unless it's th

Re: krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13

2010-09-07 Thread Bojan Smojver
Parag N(पराग़ gmail.com> writes: > I just saw this new build is installing .a and .la files. If .a files > are needed then -static subpackage should be created and .la files > must not be packaged. I'm guessing you are referring to the libka-plugin-dummy stuff. I would venture a guess that these

Re: krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13

2010-09-07 Thread पराग़
Hi, On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 09:29 +1000, Bojan Smojver wrote: >> Could someone with enough karma rebuild krb5-auth-dialog 0.16 for F-13 >> (this is in relation to bug #597669). The 0.15 is leaking memory like >> there is no tomorrow and I'm not

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