On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
>> But you can add:
>>
>> Provides: /bin/foo
>
> Ugh! Will that be needed that across the distro for a release or two?
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commitdiff;h=09220fef36dcc2fe06bd858578119872f889c7e2
As you say
Mike Pinkerton wrote:
> If (1) we mount /usr ro over the network, and (2) we want /usr to be
> reserved for managed software (for a variety of reasons), then /usr/
> local really doesn't fit anymore.
>
> Because /opt is the only other current directory that makes sense for
> locally-compiled progr
Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> To solve that, I'd be nice if there was a way to roll over an EOL
> version into an appropriate release of one of the long-term-supported
> systems such as RHEL, Centos or Scientific Linux.
This is impossible due to how the Fedora and RHEL releases align, and it is
impo
Matthias Runge wrote:
> Maybe introducing a "testing"-release as concession to both sides is
> acceptable?
>
> - newest versions, including risk of being broken -> rawhide
> - (merely) stable versions will be propagated from rawhide to "testing"
> - branching stable versions each six months (or so
On Jan 30, 2012 5:37 PM, "James Antill" wrote:
> > > For a trivial example -- if package A depends on /bin/foo, will yum &
> > > rpm be satisfied with /usr/bin/foo?
> >
> > Assuming /bin -> /usr/bin link is packaged, yes.
>
> No, not in any meaningful way, although I assume all of the problems
>
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 16:01 +0100, Emanuel Rietveld wrote:
> On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
> >
> > You might not want to encourage the "app" model, but that boat already
> > left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on portables and
> > desktops, they need to recognize that
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:05 -0200, Henrique Junior wrote:
> I'm using Tumbleweed for some releases now and I'm amazed to see how
> smooth and painless openSUSE make it look to use and maintain. To
> them, it is basically just a repo, but, as Greg said, this "ease of
> maintain" is due to the openSU
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 00:04 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> - for which nobody (neither the reporter nor the co-owners, nor anyone
> else) has bumped the Release: field as requested by the automated
> script
One thing that bugs me here is that permissions on Bugzilla are somewhat
tighter than I'd
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 22:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > What's needed to be sure the bug doesn't get closed is for the Version
> > field to be bumped to a release that's not going EOL. A comment may do
> > the job, but there's usually hundreds of bugs in the list to be EOLed
> > and it's us
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 23:26 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
> I do not thing it is worthwhile for them to do so. There may already
> be a document somewhere on the wiki on this topic. It will never be
> found because since the day mediawiki was rolled out there has not
> been a usable search.
T
On 01/30/2012 05:17 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>
> The argument against rolling upgrades is that it's a wonderful idea
> early on, but then you run into a morass as time goes on, because of:
>
> - difficulty of handling wanted vs. unwanted updates, which in turn
> creates combinatorially growi
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 15:47 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said:
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > > Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
> > > directories
> > > /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64 will
On 01/28/2012 07:42 PM, Noah Hall wrote:
Fuduntu Dev here.
...
Fuduntu didn't start out as a rolling release. We had versions for a
while, until we realised we were basically releasing newer snapshots
of our current software with slightly different defaults.
Having discussed it as a team, we d
2012/1/30 Orion Poplawski :
> On 01/30/2012 11:49 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
>>
>> On 01/30/2012 08:24 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>>>
>>> I am getting the following error building paraview with gcc 4.7:
>>>
>>> In file included from
>>> /builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqAnimationScene.cx
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Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Assuming /bin -> /usr/bin link is packaged, yes.
>
> Wow, it follows the symlink created by a 3rd package.
Technically, the link doesn't even need to be packaged; as long as /bin
exis
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Assuming /bin -> /usr/bin link is packaged, yes.
Wow, it follows the symlink created by a 3rd package.
clever,
m
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Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
> > directories
> > /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64 will only be symlinks:
> > /bin → /usr/bin
>
> Interesting!
>
> Do we
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On 01/30/2012 09:34 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 30/01/12 14:28, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>>
>> Yes grep autorelabel /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/30usrmove/*
>> /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/30usrmove/usrmove-convert.sh:echo "Set
>> autorelabel flag."
>> /u
On 01/30/2012 11:49 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
On 01/30/2012 08:24 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
I am getting the following error building paraview with gcc 4.7:
In file included from
/builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqAnimationScene.cxx:57:0:
/builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Cor
On 01/30/2012 08:24 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> I am getting the following error building paraview with gcc 4.7:
>
> In file included from
> /builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqAnimationScene.cxx:57:0:
> /builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqServerManagerSelectionModel.h:75:
I am getting the following error building paraview with gcc 4.7:
In file included from
/builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqAnimationScene.cxx:57:0:
/builddir/build/BUILD/ParaView-3.12.0/Qt/Core/pqServerManagerSelectionModel.h:75:30:
error: calls to overloaded operators cannot appear
2012/1/30 Mike Pinkerton
> [...]
If (1) we mount /usr ro over the network, and (2) we want /usr to be
> reserved for managed software (for a variety of reasons), then /usr/local
> really doesn't fit anymore.
>
Why doesn't /usr/local fit anymore? It was especailly designed for this
kind of setup
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Noah Hall wrote:
> Fuduntu Dev here.
One question for you with your Fuduntu Dev hat on.
Is Fuduntu is still using a Gnome 2 derived desktop experience?
Assuming that is true. And please correct me if it is not. Can you
point me to any documentation or any arch
On 30 Jan 2012, at 10:01, Emanuel Rietveld wrote:
On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
You might not want to encourage the "app" model, but that boat
already left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on
portables and desktops, they need to recognize that there is an
appet
Here's the review request:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785785
I tweaked a couple of things. We don't use "Suggests:" so I made
abi-compliance-checker a hard requirement.
Also, I tweaked the help2man man page. I think due to the output of :
$ pkgdiff --version
Package Changes Anal
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perl-Cairo-1.090-1.fc16 has been submitted as an update fo
commit a25e7b05095a603d42e50ea7ff24cd379b28c260
Author: Tom Callaway
Date: Mon Jan 30 10:21:49 2012 -0500
1.090
.gitignore |1 +
perl-Cairo.spec | 26 +++---
sources |2 +-
3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/.gitig
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Author: Tom Callaway
Date: Mon Jan 30 10:21:33 2012 -0500
1.090
perl-Cairo.spec | 29 ++---
sources |2 +-
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On 01/30/2012 03:38 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
You might not want to encourage the "app" model, but that boat already
left the dock. For Linux distros to be players on portables and
desktops, they need to recognize that there is an appetite among the
user base for "app" type programs that are
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
> directories
> /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64 will only be symlinks:
> /bin → /usr/bin
Interesting!
Do we need to teach rpm / yum about the equivalence, when resolving
depende
On 30 Jan 2012, at 00:17, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike Pinkerton wrote:
Additionally, "app" style programs will become more common in
the future, whether on a portable or a desktop. Those "app" style
programs are the only way one can create a central marketplace for
small, easily downloaded and i
On 30/01/12 14:28, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
Yes
grep autorelabel /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/30usrmove/*
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/30usrmove/usrmove-convert.sh:echo "Set
autorelabel flag."
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/30usrmove/usrmove-convert.sh:>
"$ROOT/.autorelabel"
What about on an already done b
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On 01/29/2012 05:33 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On 01/27/2012 04:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 01/27/2012 08:10 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>> The packages, which are about to land in rawhide, are at this
>>> moment available via the ‘f17-us
Thanks. I've just created a spec-file for Mandriva 2012. You can use it
as an example:
http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/pkgdiff/current/SPECS/pkgdiff.spec?view=markup
Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Andrey Ponomarenko
wrote:
Hello list,
A new
I'm using Tumbleweed for some releases now and I'm amazed to see how
smooth and painless openSUSE make it look to use and maintain. To
them, it is basically just a repo, but, as Greg said, this "ease of
maintain" is due to the openSUSE Build Service and I'm not sure this
will be so easy in Fedora.
On 01/30/2012 08:05 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
Fedora's huge advantage and huge disatvantage is the same - For a great number
of packages the package maintainer is upstream developer too.
This is great in my eyes, making all other distros not even coming close for
development purposes. Bu
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Andrey Ponomarenko
wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> A new tool for package maintainers has been released today: pkgdiff [1] - a
> tool for analyzing changes in Linux software packages (RPM, DEB, TAR.GZ,
> etc). The output of the tool is an HTML report like this [2].
Aweso
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Hello Testers and rawhide Users,
>
> Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr.
> [...]
You guys really are going to do this?
If it were I, instead of combining, I'd be working through the list of
what is where and star
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Broken deps for x86_64
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aunit-2010-3.fc16.x86_64 requires libgnat-4.6.so()(64bit)
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Am 28.01.2012 20:49, schrieb Garrett Holmstrom:
> On 2012-01-27 5:10, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>> Any files with conflicting names, which the conversion could not resolve,
>> will
>> be backed up to files named *.usrmove~ residing in /usr/lib, /usr/lib64,
>> /usr/bin and /usr/sbin.
>
> To which file d
Hello list,
A new tool for package maintainers has been released today: pkgdiff [1]
- a tool for analyzing changes in Linux software packages (RPM, DEB,
TAR.GZ, etc). The output of the tool is an HTML report like this [2].
Usage is simple:
pkgdiff -old OLD.rpm -new NEW.rpm
[1] http://pk
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Hi!
The packages containing software from the Globus Toolkit have been
updated to Globus Toolkit version 5.2 in rawhide. The update for Fedora
15 and 16 and EPEL is currently in the testing repo, and buildroot
overrides are also in place for these releases.
Many of the changes implemented by upst
On 01/30/2012 10:46 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
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meeting tomorrow at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
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= Followups
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- Original Message -
> On 01/30/2012 07:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> On 01/27/2012 12:21 PM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we are of course trying to push the patches upstream, but it
> >>> is a bit problematic, since the upstream says,
On 01/30/2012 07:56 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
- Original Message -
On 01/27/2012 12:21 PM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Yes, we are of course trying to push the patches upstream, but it
is a bit problematic, since the upstream says, that this is an
FHS-specific issue and they only want to
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