Re: urandom vs haveged

2012-03-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > So then the question is, if urandom is what's recommended, are faster > substitutes just as good? If they are just as good, then why aren't they the > first recommendation? And if this step is superfluous, then I'd suggest > documentation b

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 03/27/2012 03:54 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn > wrote: >> I disagree. Since this is a major update that gets introduced together with >> a new Fedora version this opportunity should be used to make switches like >> these. > > In principle I agr

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > I disagree. Since this is a major update that gets introduced together with > a new Fedora version this opportunity should be used to make switches like > these. In principle I agree with what you're saying, but this is still going t

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 03/26/2012 10:10 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2012/3/26 Nicolas Mailhot : >> The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless they >> are changed now: >> >> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access > > IMHO mod_access_compat should be enabled by default >

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2012 21:51, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all >> virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 > > When did you see that? Yesterday? Might that be related to DST (Daylight > Savings Time, or Dumb Sucker Tim

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 11:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > At the moment the GNOME updates in Fedora are a bit of chaotic affair. > They mostly work, but only because of people like mclasen who spend > hours and hours building packages and putting everything together > manually. For 3.3.92 I experi

Self Introduction

2012-03-26 Thread Alexander Chernyakhovsky
Hi, I am Alex Chernyakhovsky. I am currently a 2nd-year student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, studying Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. I am a long-time user of Red Hat Linux, Fedora, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I greatly admire the work the Fedora contributors

Re: urandom vs haveged

2012-03-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > Well if you're just writing huge amounts of "random" data > to clear existing space, then you don't need it to be cryptographically > secure. > Why are you doing this exactly? Would /dev/zero suffice? In every supposed best practice case of

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I don't want it to sounds like I'm discouraging anyone from packaging these. I'm a well-known "packaging maximalist" :-) If they even let me do 'dpkg-deb -c ...' then there is some use for them. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v co

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בMarch 2012 13:08:33 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote: > I'm still interested in making available the packages through Fedora > repositories proper, but I'm also, admittedly, not paying attention to > the review tickets. I have what I need (rubygem-passenger and many > othe

Re: urandom vs haveged

2012-03-26 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 03/26/2012 08:56 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Performance: > > dd if=/dev/zero ~56MB/s CPU < 10% > dd if=/dev/urandom~12MB/s CPU 99% > haveged ~54MB/s CPU < 25% > > > The dd relative values are consistent with kernels in Fedora 1

Fwd: Connotation analysis for Fedora Project codenames

2012-03-26 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
This discussion started on the "board" list yet I know a lot of developers have an opinion on the topic. The deadline for F18 name ideas is almost over but the discussion is still valid. Join the board list and speak up! Fedora is supposed to be community driven, take the wheel. -- Bob -

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בMarch 2012 11:32:10 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:57:44AM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: > >- This means that a Debian/Ubuntu workstation can build both .deb > > and RPM packages, and we cannot use Fedora for a similar role. > > Is this really true? What

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:49:32PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 March 2012 11:58, Peter Robinson wrote: > > It would be nice if the rawhide stream was built at the same time as > > well as not doing so has the effect of people trying to work with > > rawhide as well get random failures and

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:32:15PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Given that the "pc" sense of BIOS includes having arguments returned in > > x86 registers, I really don't think that's true. > > ARM has registers too... > > My point is, the ARM chips *do* support an on-board flash bootloader, >

Re: orphaning bibus

2012-03-26 Thread Alex Lancaster
Pkgdb link: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/bibus I kept myself on as a co-maintainer, but it deserves a more proactive main owner. - Original Message - > I don't really use it anymore (replaced it with Zotero) and don't > have time to maintain it, but it is still being d

orphaning bibus

2012-03-26 Thread Alex Lancaster
I don't really use it anymore (replaced it with Zotero) and don't have time to maintain it, but it is still being developed upstream (as of late 2011): http://sourceforge.net/projects/bibus-biblio/ There is a 1.5.2 release available, see also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=757675

Re: Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-03-26 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26.03.2012 21:53, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > So now we have our first updates dependency issue. If we submit > libtevent as its own update, it is possible that it will achieve its > karma requirement before libtalloc does. It would then be pushed

Re: F16: Kernel bug with USB disks ?

2012-03-26 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 03/26/2012 06:05 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I am using the latest F16 kernel: 3.3.0-4.fc16.i686.PAE and am having > problems with a MicroSD card connected to a USB card reader. This has > been working fine until recently (at least in F14 on the same hardware). > > The problem is that "

Re: Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > 2) We could continue on the "single update for multiple packages" > approach, but revamp the karma system so that each SRPM gets its own > karma, rather than the update as a whole. Then, the whole update would > not be pushed via autokarma until all of the dependent packa

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/26 Nicolas Mailhot : > The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless they > are changed now: > > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access IMHO mod_access_compat should be enabled by default https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_access_compat.html

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Nicolas Mailhot said: > The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless they > are changed now: > > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access Did you read this part: "The old access control idioms should be replaced by the new authent

urandom vs haveged

2012-03-26 Thread Chris Murphy
Performance: dd if=/dev/zero ~56MB/s CPU < 10% dd if=/dev/urandom ~12MB/s CPU 99% haveged ~54MB/s CPU < 25% The dd relative values are consistent with kernels in Fedora 16. However these tests were done with 3.3.0-1. The questions are: Is t

Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-03-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
As requested during the FESCo meeting, I am going to try to summarize some of the issues inherent in the way that Bodhi updates currently work. First, I'll try to explain the goals and constraints: 1) The stable 'fedora-updates' yum repository should NEVER exist in a state where any package has d

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: > i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all > virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 When did you see that? Yesterday? Might that be related to DST (Daylight Savings Time, or Dumb Sucker Time as I like to call it ;-) )? Kevin Kofler --

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless they are changed now: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rex Dieter wrote: > the kde-sig has similar pain-points doing mass updates. Having a list of > pkgs to build (seems done on google docs in your case already, good), and > having your own koji tag/target does seem to simplify matters a bunch. > Then it's relatively easy to compose a bodhi update f

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread DJ Delorie
> Given that the "pc" sense of BIOS includes having arguments returned in > x86 registers, I really don't think that's true. ARM has registers too... My point is, the ARM chips *do* support an on-board flash bootloader, and there's no reason why that bootloader couldn't export a standard ABI th

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > The trick is to not build for rawhide ever, until after the stable > release is out, and instead rely on inheritance. Since building > everything twice is just a terrible waste of effort, and makes this > whole mass building thing even more of a torture. But, of course, thi

Messaging SIG - IRC Meetings on Tuesdays

2012-03-26 Thread RJ Bean
Just an announcement - the Messaging SIG is starting regular IRC meetings on Tuesdays at 16:00 UTC. Wiki page for the SIG: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Messaging_SIG My work on a proposal and a python library: https://github.com/ralphbean/fedmsg/blob/develop/doc/proposal.rst -- devel mailing

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:37:39PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Which leads me to a rant about ARM. G RANT!! I didn't think > > I'd ever love the BIOS, but compared to the alternatives (UEFI and a > > million different ARM bootloaders) it's simple and effective. > > This is getting way of

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Is this really true? What happens if, say, your program depends on > PCRE, which has different sonames on Debian/Ubuntu and Fedora (for > essentially the same library): The same thing which happens if you build for, say, RHEL 6 on Fedora 16 using mock, pbuilder is the

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2012 21:11, schrieb Jef Spaleta: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: >> the document above is hughe outdated > > Oh well. Nevermind then. Good luck correcting your configs as you see in this output the configs are correct this 19 guests are using the same ntp-s

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Orton
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:39:25PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Do you know if the new version of httpd has major changes in modules > API? I'm trying to cobble together spec file for mod_spdy > https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy/blob/master/mod_spdy.spec > and I hope to finish it for

Meeting minutes FESCo (2012-03-26)

2012-03-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-03-26) === Meeting started by mmaslano at 17:00:20 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-26/fesco.2012-03-26-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Booting Fedora from LVM with grub2

2012-03-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Umm ... okay. > > Any particular reason? Kickstarts are not very user-friendly nor convenient (unless you have several machines to install with identical installs, which is what they were invented for). > Any other plans to make the current situation better? Ev

[perl-App-Cmd] Update to 0.317

2012-03-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit d7f775a901ed75c709cc7cc4ff0a7693ba987ffa Author: Emmanuel Seyman Date: Mon Mar 26 21:14:49 2012 +0200 Update to 0.317 .gitignore|1 + perl-App-Cmd.spec |6 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitigno

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > the document above is hughe outdated Oh well. Nevermind then. Good luck correcting your configs -jef -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2012 20:22, schrieb Jef Spaleta: >> hmmm - which HWCLOCK clock? >> we are speaking about VMware Machines on ESXi/vSphere > > My best suggestion for you is to read the following document. > > www.vmware.com/files/pdf/Timekeeping-In-VirtualMachines.pdf > > and follow the best practises

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread DJ Delorie
> Which leads me to a rant about ARM. G RANT!! I didn't think > I'd ever love the BIOS, but compared to the alternatives (UEFI and a > million different ARM bootloaders) it's simple and effective. This is getting way off-topic, but... most linux-capable ARM chips support a BIOS in the "pc"

Re: gforth and gcc 4.7

2012-03-26 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:54:05PM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: > Trying to build gforth with gcc 4.7 fails currently. The forth engine is > build but it fails its included tests. The problem is that every newline > the forth engine writes is replaced with 0x00 as seen in following diff: > > 01

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 3/26/12 11:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all > virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 > > how to track down and for which component file a bugreport? > > EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem without journal. Opts: noacl,nouser_

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread DJ Delorie
> Any particular reason why you boot the thing via tftp? I'd expect > just having /boot on the sd card (which you need for boot anyway) is > easier, especially when it comes to kernel updates. I wanted the minimum on the sdcard (it just has the tftboot script) because our build farm only has one

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Jef Spaleta
> hmmm - which HWCLOCK clock? > we are speaking about VMware Machines on ESXi/vSphere My best suggestion for you is to read the following document. www.vmware.com/files/pdf/Timekeeping-In-VirtualMachines.pdf and follow the best practises outlined there. You should have your linux guests setting

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.03.2012 19:34, schrieb Jef Spaleta: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all >>> virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 >>> >>> how to tra

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all > virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 > > how to track down and for which component file a bugreport? > > EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem without journal. Opts: no

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all >> virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 >> >> how to track down and for which component file a bugreport? > > h

Re: F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Jef Spaleta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all > virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 > > how to track down and for which component file a bugreport? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=273727 -jef -

F16: "last superblock write time in future"

2012-03-26 Thread Reindl Harald
i notice this since upgraded to Fedora 16 on mostly all virtual machines while i have never seeen this with F15 how to track down and for which component file a bugreport? EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem without journal. Opts: noacl,nouser_xattr systemd-fsck[607]: /var/log: Der Zeitpunkt des l

Re: Intent to retire: mod_python

2012-03-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 26 mars 2012 à 16:04 +0100, Joe Orton a écrit : > mod_python upstream has been inactive for five years, since Graham > Dumpleton went to work on mod_wsgi. IMO it is long past time to retire > mod_python in Fedora. But the following packages still depend on it: > > Source : glump-

Intent to retire: mod_python

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Orton
mod_python upstream has been inactive for five years, since Graham Dumpleton went to work on mod_wsgi. IMO it is long past time to retire mod_python in Fedora. But the following packages still depend on it: Source : glump-0.9.11-10.fc17.src.rpm Source : koji-1.6.0-3.fc17.src.rpm Sour

[Bug 806922] perl-Socket-2.000-2 does not build in ARM Koji

2012-03-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806922 --- Comment #2 from Petr Pisar 2012-03-26 10:39:01 EDT --- Upgrading gcc and rpm-build did not help. Running tests verbosely sho

gforth and gcc 4.7

2012-03-26 Thread Adrian Reber
Trying to build gforth with gcc 4.7 fails currently. The forth engine is build but it fails its included tests. The problem is that every newline the forth engine writes is replaced with 0x00 as seen in following diff: 010: 6566 696e 6564 2047 4458 2020 594f 5520 efined GDX YOU 020: 5

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:07:45 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: The trick is to not build for rawhide ever, until after the stable release is out, and instead rely on inheritance. Since building everything twice is just a terrible waste of effort, and makes this whole mass building thing even

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/26/2012 03:09 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > I'd love to know how to do this. I've never used iSCSI. Sorry, I missed http://www.delorie.com/arm/trimslice/iscsi.html Andrew. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/23/2012 11:18 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Sorry, I'm a big fan of iSCSI on trimslices. The SATA interface is on > USB but the gigE isn't, so network (iscsi) is about 3x faster than a > local disk, if you have a big raid server on the other end. I'd love to know how to do this. I've never used

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 11:58 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > . > > It would be nice if the rawhide stream was built at the same time as > well as not doing so has the effect of people trying to work with > rawhide as well get random failures and in the process of building > F-17 and rawhide on ARM a

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Richard Hughes wrote: > At the moment the GNOME updates in Fedora are a bit of chaotic affair. > They mostly work, but only because of people like mclasen who spend > hours and hours building packages and putting everything together > manually. For 3.3.92 I experimented doing a mega-update and try

Fedora 17 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, March 28, @17:00 Eastern

2012-03-26 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting. Will the Beefy Miracle live up to the latter half of its name? Attend this meeting and find out! :) Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Rel

[perl-Tie-RefHash-Weak/f17] Spec clean-up

2012-03-26 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 9c97ff7... Spec clean-up (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: F16: Kernel bug with USB disks ?

2012-03-26 Thread Caterpillar
I filled a bugreport moths ago, but actually I cannot get the id number, maybe later I can try again Il giorno 26/mar/2012 15:05, "Terry Barnaby" ha scritto: > Hi, > > I am using the latest F16 kernel: 3.3.0-4.fc16.i686.PAE and am having > problems with a MicroSD card connected to a USB card read

Re: F16: Kernel bug with USB disks ?

2012-03-26 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 03/26/2012 02:05 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > I am using the latest F16 kernel: 3.3.0-4.fc16.i686.PAE and am having > problems with a MicroSD card connected to a USB card reader. This has > been working fine until recently (at least in F14 on the same hardware). > > The problem is that "

F16: Kernel bug with USB disks ?

2012-03-26 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, I am using the latest F16 kernel: 3.3.0-4.fc16.i686.PAE and am having problems with a MicroSD card connected to a USB card reader. This has been working fine until recently (at least in F14 on the same hardware). The problem is that "umount" does not appear to be working correctly. I have an

[Bug 806884] New: RPM2 can't be built with new rpm-4.10

2012-03-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: RPM2 can't be built with new rpm-4.10 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806884 Summary: RPM2 can't be built with new rpm-4.10 Product: Fedo

Re: Error: buildroot override already exists

2012-03-26 Thread Ricardo Argüello
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Ricardo Argüello wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Jerry James wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ricardo Argüello >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I need to do a buildroot override for >>> jboss-connector-1.6-api-1.0.1-0.1.20120310git9dc9a5.fc17, in or

Re: rpm 4.10 alpha now in rawhide, rebuilds for soname bump needed

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:48 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 03/26/2012 02:30 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:24 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > >> As a reminder, at least the following packages will now need a rebuild > >> due to the soname bump: > >> > >> jdieter

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:26:47PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Another possible way would be to boot directly from iscsi like you can > do on x86 with an sanboot-enabled iPXE rom. I have no idea whenever > u-boot can handle that though. No. The U-boot supplied on the Trim-Slice is very simplis

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 March 2012 11:58, Peter Robinson wrote: > It would be nice if the rawhide stream was built at the same time as > well as not doing so has the effect of people trying to work with > rawhide as well get random failures and in the process of building > F-17 and rawhide on ARM a non insignifican

Re: rpm 4.10 alpha now in rawhide, rebuilds for soname bump needed

2012-03-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 03/26/2012 02:30 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:24 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: As a reminder, at least the following packages will now need a rebuild due to the soname bump: jdieter deltarpm Did I see that you took care of this one for me? Doh... Sorry I fo

F-17 Branched report: 20120326 changes

2012-03-26 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 26 08:15:04 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

[perl-RPM-VersionCompare] Rebuild against RPM 4.10

2012-03-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit b16cf593384c95133c8c0383c6be9bcc42524a70 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Mar 26 13:36:03 2012 +0200 Rebuild against RPM 4.10 perl-RPM-VersionCompare.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-RPM-VersionCompare.spec b/perl-RPM-VersionComp

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2012-03-26 at 17UTC)

2012-03-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EST, 19:00 CEST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #699 Proposal to remove the pack

[perl-String-ToIdentifier-EN] update to 0.07

2012-03-26 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 24b6cb7d7cb3b49419abb559038e59c07f5d0f32 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Mon Mar 26 05:34:48 2012 -0600 update to 0.07 .gitignore |1 + perl-String-ToIdentifier-EN.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2

File String-ToIdentifier-EN-0.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2012-03-26 Thread Iain Arnell
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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi

2012-03-26 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi has broken dependencies in the F-17 tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi-0.19-1.fc17.x86_64 requires libswipl.so.5.10.5()(64bit) On i386: perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi-0.19-1.fc17.i686 requires libswipl.so.5.10.5 Please resolve this as soon as possi

Re: rpm 4.10 alpha now in rawhide, rebuilds for soname bump needed

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:24 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > As a reminder, at least the following packages will now need a rebuild > due to the soname bump: > > jdieter deltarpm Did I see that you took care of this one for me? Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally si

rpm 4.10 alpha now in rawhide, rebuilds for soname bump needed

2012-03-26 Thread Panu Matilainen
Took a bit longer to get there (some initial issues with the alpha needed fixing first), but rpm 4.9.90 has been in the rawhide buildroots now for a few hours with no apparent issues. Knock wood. As a reminder, at least the following packages will now need a rebuild due to the soname bump:

Re: Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > At the moment the GNOME updates in Fedora are a bit of chaotic affair. > They mostly work, but only because of people like mclasen who spend > hours and hours building packages and putting everything together > manually. For 3.3.92 I experi

Managing the GNOME updates in Fedora

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Hughes
At the moment the GNOME updates in Fedora are a bit of chaotic affair. They mostly work, but only because of people like mclasen who spend hours and hours building packages and putting everything together manually. For 3.3.92 I experimented doing a mega-update and trying to get all the 3.3.92 build

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases

2012-03-26 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/26/2012 01:57 AM, Oron Peled wrote: > On Sunday, 25 בMarch 2012 20:01:37 Kalev Lember wrote: >> For the past 17 months, each rawhide report has had broken dh-make deps. >> The package was imported 21 Oct 2010 depending on a non-existing >> "debhelper" package and has been broken ever since. >

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On 03/26/12 11:00, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> Hi, >> they use a rather scary looking pile of development boards with very poor I/O. >>> >>> Buy a trimslice and run it with iSCSI. It's a very clean package, and >>> I can get 80 MB/se

Re: F17, firewalld, avahi

2012-03-26 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 03/24/2012 10:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD suggests I should have firewall-config. "The configuration tool firewall-config is the main configuration tool for the firewall daemon." But I'm not finding firewall-conf

Re: F17, firewalld, avahi

2012-03-26 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 03/24/2012 10:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD suggests I should have firewall-config. "The configuration tool firewall-config is the main configuration tool for the firewall daemon." But I'm not finding firewall-conf

Re: Fan switch on permanently

2012-03-26 Thread Antonio Trande
2012/3/26 Jan Synacek > On 03/24/12 at 01:42pm, Antonio Trande wrote: > > Hello. > > > > With my Acer Aspire 6930G happen that after an indefinite time, the fan > > starts to work permanently regardless of temperature. > > In this moment, according to nvclock [1] the GPU temp is 43°C and the > f

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:57:44AM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: > * IMO, it's important to have Debian packaging tools for Fedora so it >can be used as a more complete development platform: >- Currently, there's no problem building rpm's and yum repos on Debian > as a development platform

Re: Booting Fedora from LVM with grub2

2012-03-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:41:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > Perhaps, like Ubuntu's installer, the graphical part of Anaconda > > should concentrate on doing the simple stuff, and leave everything > > else to kickstart non-graphical installations. > > I don't think

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >  Hi, > >>> they use a rather scary looking pile of development boards with very >>> poor I/O. >> >> Buy a trimslice and run it with iSCSI.  It's a very clean package, and >> I can get 80 MB/sec to my file server's disks.  That is neither >> "

Re: ARM as a primary architecture

2012-03-26 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, >> they use a rather scary looking pile of development boards with very >> poor I/O. > > Buy a trimslice and run it with iSCSI. It's a very clean package, and > I can get 80 MB/sec to my file server's disks. That is neither > "scary" nor "poor I/O". > > http://www.delorie.com/arm/trimsli

Re: Depcheck failed?

2012-03-26 Thread Kamil Paral
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jon Ciesla > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Richard Shaw > > wrote: > >> > >> Darn... I was hoping that wouldn't bite me :) I'm assuming I can > >> ignore the error though? Or does it need to be fixed? > > > > Fix.  :( > > Which means I really need

Re: memtest from F17 beta DVD images

2012-03-26 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
- Original Message - > I booted the F17 beta ISO (x86_64, if it matters) on two laptops and > tried the provided memtest. In both cases it reported insane amounts > of > errors in test 7 after running successfully through tests 1..6. The > reported error addresses are in the 120 MB area. >

Re: Django 1.4 in F17?

2012-03-26 Thread Matthias Runge
On 25/03/12 13:54, Jos Vos wrote: > FWIW: > Django 1.4 has now been officially released. > > I submitted an upgrade request in bugzilla: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806614 > yes, thank you. We're aware of it. Please refer also to bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8