Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/10/2012 11:41 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Andre Robatino wrote: *IMPORTANT*: Both TC8 install DVDs are oversized and will not fit on single-layer DVDs. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#Capacity for DVD size limits. See what damage "Mini"DebugInfo is doing? Nobody (other than me) cared a

Re: MPI updates

2012-11-11 Thread Jon Masters
On 11/01/2012 11:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > - I built openmpi 1.6.3 in rawhide yesterday. This had an unexpected bump in > the libmpi_f90.so soname. I know this affects hdf5 and netcdf-fortran, both > my packages and I'll be rebuilding them later today (hopefully). On that, I've made a p

akonadi-googledata retire

2012-11-11 Thread Mario Santagiuliana
I follow the step to retire akonadi-googledata package. The upstream project is no longer maintain and in kdepim-runtime there is already a new akonadi resource for google services. On fedora git web interface I don't see my the last commit with dead.package file... http://pkgs.fedoraproject.or

F-18 Branched report: 20121111 changes

2012-11-11 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 11 09:15:40 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [dhcp-forwarder] dhcp-forwarder-upstart-0.10-1801.fc18.noarch requires /sbin/initctl [dvipdfm] dvipdfm-0.13.2d-44.fc18.x86_64 requires libkpathsea.so.4(

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Andre Robatino
Panu Matilainen laiskiainen.org> writes: > Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly > going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the > feature. > > For starters it would help if the DVD didn't contain piles of obsoleted, > conflicting and in

rawhide report: 20121111 changes

2012-11-11 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 11 08:15:08 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [LabPlot] LabPlot-1.6.0.2-12.fc18.i686 requires libaudiofile.so.0 LabPlot-1.6.0.2-12.fc18.x86_64 requires libaudiofile.so.0()(64bit) [autotest-framework

Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2012-11-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 06:55:09PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 05:35:16PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I'd strongly recommend oz-install ... > > https://github.com/clalancette/oz > > Okay, so, sell me on this. I know Oz is popular, especially in the OpenStack >

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-11-11 0:53, Panu Matilainen wrote: Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the feature. For starters it would help if the DVD didn't contain piles of obsoleted, conflicting and in some cases (

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Panu Matilainen wrote: > Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly > going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the > feature. I've seen mass rebuilds rushed through in less time than what we have from now until the current F18 release target date

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > The other classic case is that when a dependency of a package in the > set of packages to be included in an image is satisfied by more than one > other package, pungi pulls *all* the satisfying packages into the > compose, not just one. This seems odd at first glance but no

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.11.2012 18:31, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Panu Matilainen wrote: >> Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly >> going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the >> feature. > > I really don't understand the cavalier approach to bloat around here

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2012 05:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: We need to get the live images back to CD size Last time I checked the SIG's surrounding each of those spins they themselves where responsible for their own spins sizes so if they pass that they might just as well be doing so deliberately to deliver

Howto delete rawhide build

2012-11-11 Thread Neal Becker
I visit koji, and can see the build info. How can I delete the build? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Howto delete rawhide build

2012-11-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:39:15 -0500 Neal Becker wrote: > I visit koji, and can see the build info. How can I delete the build? a) Has the build gone out in a rawhide compose? (They happen daily starting at 08:15utc). If so, instead push a updated/fixed build. b) If it's not gone out in a rawhi

Re: livemedia-creator and the fedora build system [was Re: appliance-creator: how can I ...]

2012-11-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 04:02:27PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > So .. they're different things. I'm still unclear what sort of > appliances you're trying to build and what for, and that will affect > what tool you decide to use. This is the official image produced by Fedora for use in EC2 a

Re: No preupgrade for F17->F18?, [Bug 872876] WONTFIX

2012-11-11 Thread Camilo Mesias
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:46 AM, drago01 wrote: > We should make fedup obsolete preupgrade. But we should have a gui first . I had a look at fedup and it seems in a very early stage of development - so a bit like the Anaconda change (with hindsight) the new isn't quite ready to take over at th

Re: No preupgrade for F17->F18?, [Bug 872876] WONTFIX

2012-11-11 Thread drago01
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:46 AM, drago01 wrote: >> We should make fedup obsolete preupgrade. But we should have a gui first >> . > > I had a look at fedup and it seems in a very early stage of > development - so a bit like the Anaconda

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Panu Matilainen wrote: >> Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly >> going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the >> feature. > > I've seen mass rebuilds rushed through in less time than wh

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-11-11 16:42, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Panu Matilainen wrote: Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the feature. I've seen mass

Re: Revamping the non responsive maintainer process

2012-11-11 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/06/2012 06:07 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: Oh no, you are top posting again ;-) And please, please, please could we trim quotes to relevant ones? Thanks! -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/11/2012 06:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2012-11-11 0:53, Panu Matilainen wrote: Reverting mini-debuginfo would require a mass-rebuild which is hardly going to happen at this point of F18 no matter what you think of the feature. For starters it would help if the DVD didn't contain pil

Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27

2012-11-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Jesse Keating wrote: On Nov 10, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: Fedora is just one of the downstream users of Anaconda. It is incorrect to assume that the upstream Anaconda development can be dictated solely by Fedora, any more than upstre

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Kevin Kofler wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: - depends on Python stack +1, we really need to get Python out of the minimal installation. The focus should be on replacing the existing Python-based packages in the minimum set (e.g. yum) by native replacements (e.g. zi

[Test-Announce] 2012-11-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2012-11-11 Thread Tim Flink
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2012-11-12 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again tomorrow. Adam won't be around for it because Monday is a holiday in Canada b

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-11-11 22:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: Based on a quick grep, it doesn't seem to consider obsoletion at all, which explains what I see on the DVD and perhaps deserves looking at. I think the basic idea is that pungi isn't supposed to painfully re-implement yum. If packages are obsoleted,

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-11 Thread Jan Zelený
On 12. 11. 2012 at 01:28:10, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> - depends on Python stack > > > > +1, we really need to get Python out of the minimal installation. > > > > The focus should be on replacing the existing Python-based packag

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

2012-11-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/12/2012 08:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2012-11-11 22:02, Panu Matilainen wrote: Based on a quick grep, it doesn't seem to consider obsoletion at all, which explains what I see on the DVD and perhaps deserves looking at. I think the basic idea is that pungi isn't supposed to painful