Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 8. 2013 at 09:37:57, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:32:27 +0200 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > what does *not* matter in case of "yum distro-sync" because it does > > also downgrades and if fedup has a problem with it the people who say > > yum is not officially supported (while

evolution-data-server soname version bump for libedata-book/libedata-cal next week (3.9.90 release)

2013-08-15 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, there will be a soname version bump in evolution-data-server update 3.9.90 the next week, namely for libedata-book and libedata-cal libraries. Affected might be evolution-mapi and evolution-ews, which are updated together with it anyway. If there will be more, and I have commit access t

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:47:03 +0100 Richard Hughes wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to ask for comments on a feature I need for the Fedora > Application Installer. The current yum backend in PackageKit does > something like this: > > * yum install foo

orphaning of packages

2013-08-15 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Jima has not been able to make enough time for Fedora lately and asked me to orphan and announce the packages he maintains. alsa-oss aoetools banner bwm-ng clusterssh conserver graphviz libdnet libstatgrab miau ngrep perl-X11-Protocol rblchec

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > Forgive me if I sound rude and correct me if I'm wrong, but arent the > free versions of Flash pretty useless as well? We're talking about SWF compilers here, not players. There are free compiler tools that work just fine for certain applicati

Re: Orphaned: libgnomecups

2013-08-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Underlying dep of libgnomeprint22/libgnomeprintui22, which is used by a few > end-user things (gpp, conglomerate, gnome-genius), but nothing I need for > now, so giving up ownership. Isn't it just time we killed the old gnome printing infr

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:46:36 -0700 > Yes they are. Flash is slowly dying though, only to be replaced by DRM > in html5. Out of the frying pan... > > Ananda > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedorap

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:46:36 -0700 Dan Mashal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth > wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski > > wrote: > >> Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't > >> know if any package would have a .fla with

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't know if any >> package would have a .fla without a .swf, but it might be worth checking >> for. > > Thanks for poi

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't know if any > package would have a .fla without a .swf, but it might be worth checking > for. Thanks for pointing that out! .fla files are source files, so it's not strictly a

Re: [dnf] dnf-0.3.11

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 14.08.2013 14:05, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > On 08/14/2013 11:46 AM, poma wrote: >> Summ. >> yum - kernel-PAE-modules-extra - Installing - OK >> dnf - kernel-PAE-modules-extra - Upgrading - ? >> >> >> poma > > Hi, > > this looks like a new bug related to Yum's installonly feature which is > still

Re: [EPEL] gimp-paint-studio failed to build on el6

2013-08-15 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 15/08/13 12:28 PM, Mattias Ellert wrote: Try: %doc License?for?Contents License_gpl-2.0.txt Readme.txt See: http://www.rpm.org/ticket/858 Mattias Thank you Mattias, your suggestion worked. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=456936 Luya -- devel mailing list de

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: >>> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this >>> point in time. >> >> Reforking? And then wait unt

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: >> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this >> point in time. > > Reforking? And then wait until the bitrot sets in again? ;-) > > Can't you just use gno

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:15:11 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > That sounds like it would be a lot of duplication in mirrormanager > and other parts of the project. ;) > > kevin Why not do it's on the users PC\Laptop. (As a change\feature?) /etc/yum.repos.d/updates.repo (ditto testing if enabled) keep

[389-devel] Please review: Ticket #47465 problem with 389-adminutil detection in m4/adminutil.m4

2013-08-15 Thread Rich Megginson
https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47465/0003-Ticket-47465-problem-with-389-adminutil-detection-in.patch https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47465/0001-Ticket-47465-problem-with-389-adminutil-detection-in.patch -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org htt

Introduction

2013-08-15 Thread Brian Schonecker
Per request at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers?rd=PackageMaintainers/Join I would like to introduce myself. Who am I? Brian Schonecker, RHCE and complete novice at building packages? What will I contribute? I have access to an IBM mainframe s390x and am ru

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:22:34 -0500 Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 08/14/2013 12:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I guess I'm open to the idea, but I have long wished we could have > > some way to always keep the previous version of a package for yum > > downgrades. ;( > > > > Keeping all that in

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:12:48 -0400 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/15/2013 03:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:36:53 -0400 > > "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > >> Interesting since they did not do that when I joined QA what 5 or 6 > >> years ago so again can you re

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 08/15/2013 02:45 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: It's come to my attention that a number of packages contain Flash (.swf) files, but absolutely none of them have BuildRequires on a free software Flash toolchain, nor do any of them seem to be shipping the source for these files. :-( It has never

Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
It's come to my attention that a number of packages contain Flash (.swf) files, but absolutely none of them have BuildRequires on a free software Flash toolchain, nor do any of them seem to be shipping the source for these files. :-( It has never been permissible to included prebuilt files of this

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.08.2013 22:12, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 08/15/2013 03:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:36:53 -0400 >> "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> Interesting since they did not do that when I joined QA what 5 or 6 >>> years ago so again can you refer me to that discu

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) said: > On 12 August 2013 19:36, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > I could see doing this, but it is a non-trivial change to how the > > repositories are made, and there aren't really any resources assigned to > > work on that. I can give some pointers to where and w

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 03:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:36:53 -0400 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Interesting since they did not do that when I joined QA what 5 or 6 years ago so again can you refer me to that discussion. It's always been a test case/critera that I remember... htt

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 15 August 2013 15:48, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Oh, and to clarify - upgrades were supported even before then, but > required booting Anaconda from new install media. That's been true since > the Red Hat Linux days, so years before Fedora even existed. > > I believe we are arguing over words wh

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
Oh, and to clarify - upgrades were supported even before then, but required booting Anaconda from new install media. That's been true since the Red Hat Linux days, so years before Fedora even existed. -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:36:53 -0400 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Interesting since they did not do that when I joined QA what 5 or 6 > years ago so again can you refer me to that discussion. It's always been a test case/critera that I remember... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/2

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 03:16 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 08/15/2013 02:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 01:02:42PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Well whomever choose to decide that we "support" upgrades in the firs

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 03:02:37PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Our release criteria and everything we defined *after* we found out > that we suddenly supported upgrades is solid which is not what I was > saying or referring to. We've always supported upgrades. Before fedup, preupgrade

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 03:16 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 08/15/2013 02:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 01:02:42PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Well whomever choose to decide that we "support" upgrades in the firs

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:41:37 -0700 >> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> >>> Additional agenda item: >>> >>> Mattdm, sgallagh, and I were talking about the general fesco sentiment >>> towards mat

Re: [EPEL] gimp-paint-studio failed to build on el6

2013-08-15 Thread Mattias Ellert
tor 2013-08-15 klockan 11:57 -0700 skrev Luya Tshimbalanga: > Hello, > I wonder why the build failed[1] despite assigning a quotation on a doc > file listed on: > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gimp-paint-studio.git/tree/gimp-paint-studio.spec?h=el6 > > Is there a way to fix that? > > Ref >

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/15/2013 02:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 01:02:42PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >>> Well whomever choose to decide that we "support" upgrades in the >>> first place bypassed the QA co

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 02:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 01:02:42PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Well whomever choose to decide that we "support" upgrades in the first place bypassed the QA community entirely in making that decision as well as to which tool is "preferred"

[EPEL] gimp-paint-studio failed to build on el6

2013-08-15 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello, I wonder why the build failed[1] despite assigning a quotation on a doc file listed on: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gimp-paint-studio.git/tree/gimp-paint-studio.spec?h=el6 Is there a way to fix that? Ref [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=456904 Luya

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 01:02:42PM -0400, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Well whomever choose to decide that we "support" upgrades in the > first place bypassed the QA community entirely in making that > decision as well as to which tool is "preferred","supported" or > "recommended". If QA is t

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-15 Thread Lars Seipel
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this > point in time. Reforking? And then wait until the bitrot sets in again? ;-) Can't you just use gnome-bluetooth proper and resurrect the panel icon stuff like Kale

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 14 août 2013 à 11:26 -0600, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : > I guess I'm open to the idea, but I have long wished we could have some > way to always keep the previous version of a package for yum > downgrades. ;( > > Keeping all that in metadata would bloat it a lot. I think Debian does that

Orphaned: libgnomecups

2013-08-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Underlying dep of libgnomeprint22/libgnomeprintui22, which is used by a few end-user things (gpp, conglomerate, gnome-genius), but nothing I need for now, so giving up ownership. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora

Re: Suggestion: bmap files and bmaptool

2013-08-15 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 8/13/13 8:58 AM, Artem Bityutskiy wrote: > # Make the image to be sparse > $ cp --sparse=always Fedora-x86_64-19-20130627-sda.raw > Fedora-x86_64-19-20130627-sda.raw.sparse > > # Generate the bmap file > $ bmaptool create Fedora-x86_64-19-20130627-sda.raw.sparse -o > Fedora-x86_64-19-20130627

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 09:40 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: I feel that people mostly say "fedora is for testing". It is somewhat supported by responses to upgrade problems to a new version which invariable are along the lines of "we don't support that upgrade path/method". Well whomever choose to decide that

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/15/2013 10:26 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 08/15/2013 10:16 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: I agree our updates should be supported option ;-) They are usually working very well. We really should try to stop using the word "supported" since it misleading for everybody. "Best eff

Re: Review Request 42: Indicate bugs that are needinfo

2013-08-15 Thread Tim Flink
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/42/#review67 --- the sync crashed for me when I tried to run it, will put the tb

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/15/2013 10:16 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: I agree our updates should be supported option ;-) They are usually working very well. We really should try to stop using the word "supported" since it misleading for everybody. "Best effort" is what accurately describes what the community

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.08.2013 18:19, schrieb Kaleb KEITHLEY: > On 08/15/2013 11:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: >> We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. >> What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. > > *we have* >>

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 08/15/2013 05:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 15.08.2013 17:17, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: >>> On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: >>

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Kaleb KEITHLEY
On 08/15/2013 11:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 17:17, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we

Re: Review Request 44: Update URLs should contain the update ID when possible

2013-08-15 Thread Tim Flink
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/44/#review66 --- Does this work with ilgiz's update_sync code? Is anything other

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:59:30 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/15/2013 05:37 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: ...snip... > > It gathers up the packages you will need to do the upgrade, > > ... and stores them in /var/cache/yum/... > > If you don't have a sufficiently large /var/cache, such a download

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 05:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 17:17, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we

Re: Review Request 45: Improve asset management

2013-08-15 Thread Tim Flink
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-tflink.rhcloud.com/r/45/#review65 --- The problem here is how to deploy this in production - there is

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 05:37 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:32:27 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: what does *not* matter in case of "yum distro-sync" because it does also downgrades and if fedup has a problem with it the people who say yum is not officially supported (while no support in any

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:32:27 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > what does *not* matter in case of "yum distro-sync" because it does > also downgrades and if fedup has a problem with it the people who say > yum is not officially supported (while no support in any case exists) > should ask theirself who

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: > We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. > What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. *we have* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum i currently count 450 dist-upgrade this way and the oldest se

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.08.2013 17:17, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgr

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > The requirements from the gramps webpage is a little hard to follow since > it has information from both 3.X and 4.X but I'm trying to work through it, > however, looking at the BR in the spec, it seems like there are more than > typically r

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Shaw
The requirements from the gramps webpage is a little hard to follow since it has information from both 3.X and 4.X but I'm trying to work through it, however, looking at the BR in the spec, it seems like there are more than typically required for a pure python project... I'll look through the setup

Re: rawhide report: 20130815 changes

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 04:32 PM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Thu Aug 15 08:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for i386 -- [FlightGear] [fgrun] Fallout of the OpenSceneGraph upgrade. Now fixed in rawhide. Ralf -- devel mailing list

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/15/2013 04:36 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. *we have* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgr

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gp

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> > >> > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gps-map Python >> bindings >> > were built, I would be happy to test g

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> > >> > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gps-map Python >> bindings >> > were built, I would be happy to

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > > > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gps-map Python bindings > > were built, I would be happy to test gramps with them and switch if they > > work. > > It's my underst

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure gramps will, as it was a request from that community >> >>> that propmpted me to update osm-gps-map in rawhide. >> >> > > >> Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if th

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gps-map Python bindings > were built, I would be happy to test gramps with them and switch if they > work. It's my understanding that with gobject introspection that Python bindings don't need

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > I'm pretty sure gramps will, as it was a request from that community > >> that propmpted me to update osm-gps-map in rawhide. > > > Speaking as the new gramps maintainer, if the osm-gps-map Python bindings >> were built, I would be happy to t

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Paul Wouters > I'll try it for f18->f19, and if this got fixed that is a big step > towards running fedora longterm across releases. > Fedup is not the same thing as preupgrade and it appears you are complaining about issues in preupgrade and haven't tried f

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Richard Shaw > wrote: > > > > Checking my F18 system only two packages require python-osmgpsmap... > > > > # repoquery --whatrequires python-osmgpsmap > > gramps-0:3.4.2-1.fc18.noarch > > kismon-0:0.6-4.fc18

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Richard Shaw > wrote: > > > > Checking my F18 system only two packages require python-osmgpsmap... > > > > # repoquery --whatrequires python-osmgpsmap > > gramps-0:3.4.2-1.fc18.noarch > > kismon-0:0.6-4.fc18

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Checking my F18 system only two packages require python-osmgpsmap... > > # repoquery --whatrequires python-osmgpsmap > gramps-0:3.4.2-1.fc18.noarch > kismon-0:0.6-4.fc18.noarch > > I wonder if the current/latest version of gramps and kismon

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters: We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. *we have* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum i currently count 450

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 09:40:01AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > >I want increased participation in the creation of Fedora, which is a > >product with a defined set of software shipped as default. I'm also > >happy with people working to make it pract

Re: RFC: Old packages remain on the mirrors for one week

2013-08-15 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 8. 2013 at 11:04:52, Chris Murphy wrote: > What's the interval of repomd changes, daily? What approximate percentage of > the entire repomd changes between day 1 and day 7? If the delta is > comparatively small to full metadata files, what about implementing a daily > repomd_delta sorta like

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/15/2013 03:40 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: I want increased participation in the creation of Fedora, which is a product with a defined set of software shipped as default. I'm also happy with people working to make it practical to use Fedora as the ba

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2013 09:40 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> I want increased participation in the creation of Fedora, which >> is a product with a defined set of software shipped as default. >> I'm also happy with pe

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 09:40 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months. What > we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent. +1 -- Best Regards, Artem Bityutskiy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: I want increased participation in the creation of Fedora, which is a product with a defined set of software shipped as default. I'm also happy with people working to make it practical to use Fedora as the basis for derived products (such as the spins a

Re: Broken dependencies: python-osmgpsmap

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Sorry, just seeing this discussion now. What happened was that the > newest version of osm-gps-map added gobject introspection, so Python > bindings can be automatically generated. The older python-osmgpsmap > bindings I believe are deprec

heads up: BlueZ 5 has landed in rawhide

2013-08-15 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, FESCo accepted BlueZ 5 for F20 at yesterday's meeting and I've gone ahead and imported it in Rawhide. Small status report where we currently stand: bluez- updated to 5.8 gnome-bluetooth - updated to 3.9.3 that has BlueZ 5 support gnome-user-share - won't get ported in time

Re: Broken chkconfig in rawhide?

2013-08-15 Thread Mario Ceresa
Helllo Reindl, Rex, thanks for your comments: I'll wait for new mariadb package Best, Mario On 14 August 2013 17:04, Rex Dieter wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > > > Mario Ceresa wrote: > > > >> Dear all, while trying to rebuild InsightToolkit in rawhide I get the > >> following error ( > >> http: