An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
I've split out the code that performs this check (based on an idea like old RepoPrune), added a brute-force check for dead.package files (via http and cgit), and the current working-copy is this: http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/obscheck-remote.py Output for Rawhide: Dead and all builds obsole

Re: Mass Rebuild botched up my EVR

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:01:03 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > I just noticed the mass rebuild on Aug 3 botched up my EVR for > > libreswan: > > > > Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}.1 The trailing .1 is valid, at least: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuideli

Re: An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Thomas Moschny
2013/8/20 Michael Schwendt : > Undead and all builds obsoleted: Seems this misses cases like pexpect, which is undead, but obsoleted by python-pexpect. Maybe because the latter failed in the latest mass rebuild? - Thomas -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapro

Re: An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:15:43 +0200, Thomas Moschny wrote: > > Undead and all builds obsoleted: > > Seems this misses cases like pexpect, which is undead, but obsoleted > by python-pexpect. Maybe because the latter failed in the latest mass > rebuild? Good catch! The Obsoletes tag in python-pexpe

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Josef Stribny
Welcome! - Original Message - From: "Frankie Onuonga" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:35:28 AM Subject: Self Introduction Hi guys, Following the set of guidelines provided at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#In

A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Tadej Janež
Hi! The techne package FTBFS during the recent F20 mass rebuild, which I fixed and pushed a new build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=455280 The same package failed to build yesterday: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5830172 Inspecting the log files, I di

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/20/2013 01:15 PM, Tadej Janež wrote: Hi! The techne package FTBFS during the recent F20 mass rebuild, which I fixed and pushed a new build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=455280 The same package failed to build yesterday: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?t

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Christopher Meng
在 2013-8-20 PM7:15,"Tadej Janež" 写道: was missing. > Who should I blame: > - the techne package which detected shapelib and tried to build against > it, or > - the package which introduced this dependency and/or did not also put > in a Requires on shapelib-devel? If it can be built on f19, I think

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Tadej Janež
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 13:22 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Probably the former. How does it detect shapelib support if linking to > its library fails? It uses autoconf to check for dependencies, however, I couldn't find an explicit check for shapelib in configure.ac. Comparing the output of

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/20/2013 01:58 PM, Tadej Janež wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 13:22 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Probably the former. How does it detect shapelib support if linking to its library fails? It uses autoconf to check for dependencies, however, I couldn't find an explicit check for shapelib in

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
> I am hoping to assist in packaging if required. Hi, what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages? -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Tadej Janež
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 14:01 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Could you diff config.log instead, please? I'll have to get hold of a rawhide machine to do that, previously I just diffed the build logs from koji. > Do you link something statically, by chance? This would be above my knowledge. How

bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-20 Thread Ian Malone
Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora kernel packages? I found a koji bisect thing, but the last known good kernel is prior to the fedora release the machine is currently running, so not sure that is

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git > bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora > kernel packages? I found a koji bisect thing, but the last known good > kernel is prior to the fedora r

Re: bisect on fedora kernels

2013-08-20 Thread Ian Malone
On 20 August 2013 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Ian Malone wrote: >> Hi, I've got a kernel bug where a developer has asked me to try a git >> bisect. Does anyone have tips for doing a kernel bisect with fedora >> kernel packages? I found a koji bisect thing, but the

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 08/20/2013 01:15 PM, Tadej Janež wrote: >> >> Inspecting the log files, I discovered that some BuildRequires pulled in >> the shapelib package, which then caused the build to fail with: >> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lshp" since shapelib-d

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/20/2013 03:11 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 08/20/2013 01:15 PM, Tadej Janež wrote: Inspecting the log files, I discovered that some BuildRequires pulled in the shapelib package, which then caused the build to fail with: "/usr/bin/ld:

Re: A new depedency of existing BuildRequires causes build failure - who to blame?

2013-08-20 Thread Tadej Janež
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 16:11 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > In this case (and usually IME) it's the latter. -lshp was added to > plplotd.pc in plplot-devel-5.9.9-18.svn12474.fc20 but the > corresponding shapelib-devel package dep wasn't. I just discovered the same thing. Here is the diff of the c

Fedora 20 Changes Freeze today & tracking bugs

2013-08-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! All Changes Tracking bugs should be reported now [1] as a replacement for tracking changes/features in the wiki page and using usually meaningless percentage status. Please, use this tracking bug for bugs blocking your Change (if you already have a tracking bug, ignore this one and please ch

Re: Fedora 20 Changes Freeze today & tracking bugs

2013-08-20 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 20.8.2013 15:37, Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): * What should I do with my Change now? According to the policy, the Change has to be substantially complete and in a testable state; enabled by default -- if so specified by the Change. If the above applies for you Change, please set bug status to M

Re: Fedora 20 Changes Freeze today & tracking bugs

2013-08-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Dne 20.8.2013 15:37, Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): > > * What should I do with my Change now? > > According to the policy, the Change has to be substantially complete > > and in a testable state; enabled by default -- if so specified by the > > Change. If the above appli

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Gustavo Luiz Duarte
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Till Maas wrote: petitboot dwmw2, tbreeds, jwboyer > Please don't retire petitboot. I will fix it. I might also apply for co-maintainer. Thanks, Gustavo Luiz Duarte -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject

File Regexp-Grammars-1.031.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by wfp

2013-08-20 Thread Bill Pemberton
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Regexp-Grammars: a8cb3e72f97390be85ca63d655a9e55c Regexp-Grammars-1.031.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

[perl-Regexp-Grammars] Update to version 1.031

2013-08-20 Thread Bill Pemberton
commit 8e25889d808d73b93aaf5c21b1f08b8d3e2efd02 Author: Bill Pemberton Date: Tue Aug 20 11:23:13 2013 -0400 Update to version 1.031 .gitignore|1 + perl-Regexp-Grammars.spec |9 +++-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 dele

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > petitboot dwmw2, tbreeds, jwboyer >> > > > Please don't retire petitboot. I will fix it. I might also apply for > co-maintainer. > Why? It's for the PS3 which no lo

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 14:02 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I am hoping to assist in packaging if required. > > Hi, Hi, > what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages? I would like something that is cloud related but, I do not think I can be too picky when it comes to this. I say t

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Gustavo Luiz Duarte
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte > wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Till Maas wrote: >> >> petitboot dwmw2, tbreeds, jwboyer >>> >> >> >> Please don't retire petitboot. I will fix it. I migh

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Peter Robinson > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Till Maas wrote: >>> petitboot dwmw2,

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 07:35:54PM +0300, Frankie Onuonga wrote: > > > I am hoping to assist in packaging if required. > > what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages? > I would like something that is cloud related but, I do not think I can > be too picky when it comes to this. Aweso

Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 13:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 07:35:54PM +0300, Frankie Onuonga wrote: > > > > I am hoping to assist in packaging if required. > > > what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages? > > I would like something that is cloud related but

RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I'd like to propose some changes to the spins process. I already posted to the spins and qa lists a while back and asked for feedback. I did get some good feedback from qa folks, but mostly crickets from spins maintainers, so I thought I would post an improved draft here and ask for an

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/20/2013 06:29 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. I'd like to propose some changes to the spins process. I already posted to the spins and qa lists a while back and asked for feedback. I did get some good feedback from qa folks, but mostly crickets from spins maintainers, so I thought I woul

Re: An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:42:59AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Good catch! The Obsoletes tag in python-pexpect is too low, so not even > the previous build obsoletes pexpect yet. That's a common mistake done > by some packagers: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=375261

What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some reason, one of the tests is failing. I've opened a report with upstream, but neither the upstream maintainer nor I have access to any ARM machines to figure out wha

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2013 03:20 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is > trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for > some reason, one of the tests is failing. I've opened a report > with u

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Gustavo Luiz Duarte
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > I admire the determination, but we don't even enable PS3 support in > the Fedora kernels any longer. We haven't for some time, and we won't > be turning it back on. So while users may wish to keep their PS3s > running Linux, it isn't going t

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:38:25 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process > with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provides and > is ultimately reasonable for creating their own spins as opposed to > releng/infra wasting

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 02:20:12PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: > I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is trying > to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some reason, > one of the tests is failing. I've opened a report with upstream, but > neither the upst

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:32:29PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process > > with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provides and > > is ultimately reasonable for creating their own spins as opposed to > > releng/infra wastin

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:20:12 -0500 Andrew McNabb wrote: > I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is > trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some > reason, one of the tests is failing. I've opened a report with > upstream, but neither the upstream

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dan Horák wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:20:12 -0500 > Andrew McNabb wrote: > >> I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is >> trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some >> reason, one of the tests is failing. I've

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/20/2013 07:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process >with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provides and >is ultimately reasonable for creating their own spins as opposed to >releng/infra wasting valuable time/resource host

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:43:19 -0400 Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:20:12 -0500 > > Andrew McNabb wrote: > > > >> I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is > >> trying to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM m

aoetools package updates from upstream

2013-08-20 Thread Ed Cashin
Hi. I'm an upstream maintainer for the aoetools, the user space software that complements the aoe driver in the Linux kernel. The aoe driver is a storage initiator that allows the use of ATA over Ethernet for cloud deployments and other use cases, so I've joined the Fedora Cloud SIG as well.

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:28:13PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > I've opened a report > > with upstream, but neither the upstream maintainer nor I have > > access to any ARM machines to figure out what's going on. > > Well, you *can* use the ExcludeArch directive, but the obvious > question

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:32:37PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Are you *sure* that this is an ARM-related failure? The ARM builders are > picking up a lot of load for noarch builds, and it may just be a coincidence > that the test fails. The same package works fine on Fedora 19, so I'm prett

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:44:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/20/2013 07:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> >Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process > >> >with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provides > >> >and is ultimately reasonable for creat

Re: An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:21:31AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > I've split out the code that performs this check (based on an idea > like old RepoPrune), added a brute-force check for dead.package files > (via http and cgit), and the current working-copy is this: > http://mschwendt.fedor

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:05:32PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > The following packages did not build for two releases and will be > retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to > actively working on fixing them. > > Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain o

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 02:55:57PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: > The same package works fine on Fedora 19, so I'm pretty sure it's > ARM-related. Is there a way I can do a scratch build for x86_64 on > Fedora 20 just to make sure that it's ARM-related? You could make your scratch build not noarch

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/20/2013 09:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: The end solution to this is to actually build all packages on all arches and not have the secondary arches suck down completed builds from primary koji. I realize this would increase the build load on those arches significantly, but it would catch these

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 08/20/2013 09:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> The end solution to this is to actually build all packages on all >> arches and not have the secondary arches suck down completed builds >> from primary koji. I realize this would increase the

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/20/2013 07:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, this change aims to at least see the QA part of that. If they have to do some QA, will a community step up to do so? The sub-community would have to do the testing while the QA community would assist them in setting up the test matrix,release cr

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
On 08/20/2013 10:16 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 08/20/2013 09:43 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: The end solution to this is to actually build all packages on all arches and not have the secondary arches suck down completed builds from primary koji.

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > I maintain the python-pexpect package, which is noarch. Koji is trying > to build the Fedora 20 packages on ARM machines, and for some reason, > one of the tests is failing. I've opened a report with upstream, but > neither the upstream ma

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:28:13PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 08/20/2013 03:20 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > > What's the right way to deal with this situation? Is it possible > > to block the noarch package from the ARM architecture? > > Well, you *can* use the ExcludeArch directive, but

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:28:13PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On 08/20/2013 03:20 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > > > What's the right way to deal with this situation? Is it possible > > > to block the noarch package from the ARM archi

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:13:10PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > In terms of testing or debugging probably the easiest way is to spin up an > image under qemu emulation, it's not the fastest but it works pretty well. > If there's anything else I can help with feel free to ask. > > http://fedor

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:18:24PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > As it's noarch it can be built on any arch. Even with ExcludeArch? That's disappointing. :( I assume I have to get rid of noarch, then, right? -- Andrew McNabb http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/ PGP Fingerprint: 8A17 B57C 6879 186

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:18:24PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > As it's noarch it can be built on any arch. > > Even with ExcludeArch? That's disappointing. :( > > I assume I have to get rid of noarch, then, right? > Just going to

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:26:09PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Just going to have a look at the package myself to see if I can see quickly > why it fails. Thanks. I've started downloading an ARM virtual machine image, but I probably won't be able to boot it up until tomorrow. Let me know i

Fedora 20 Mass Branching

2013-08-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Fedora 20 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to pick up the new branch, as an additional reminder rawhide/f21 has had inheritance cut off from previous releases, so this means that anything you do for f20 you also hav

Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
Oh no! Another one of those threads... ;-) Well, a comment from Thomas Moschny inspired me to examine "Obsoletes" tags in our package collection a bit. How to find "Obsoletes" tags, which are not high enough? For example, it happens regularly that even with Fedora's Package Rename Process, which

Re: Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-20 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > latte-integrale > 4ti2-0:1.5-3.fc18.i686 isn't obsoleted > 4ti2 < 0:1.5-1 obsoleted by 4ti2-0:1.5-10.fc20.i686 > > Indeed. "latte-integrale" is the src.rpm name. It builds a "4ti2" > binary rpm with an EVR higher than the

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:44:37 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/20/2013 07:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> >Is it not better to come up with some kind of spin/mentor process > >> >with releng/infra where each spin sub-community learns,provid

Re: An even closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
> Undead and all builds obsoleted: > > classads > detex > drupal6-drush > gpp4 > ibus-table-array30 > jaxen-bootstrap > joystick > kdirstat > latexdiff > mate-conf > mate-conf-editor > metapost-metauml > nss-myhostname > pdfbook > pdfjam > ps2eps > python-cryptsetup

Re: RFC: Spins process changes proposal

2013-08-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:28:31 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/20/2013 07:59 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Well, this change aims to at least see the QA part of that. > > If they have to do some QA, will a community step up to do so? > > The

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:03:17AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:28:34PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote: > > > Basically we ship Fedora 20 in a state where one only of our major desktop > > environments supports bluetooth in a stable fashion? That seems kind of > > like a >

4ti2 / Re: Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:45:47 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > latte-integrale > > 4ti2-0:1.5-3.fc18.i686 isn't obsoleted > > 4ti2 < 0:1.5-1 obsoleted by 4ti2-0:1.5-10.fc20.i686 > Or are you saying that even the Obsoletes > tag is unnecessary since only the source RPM name changed, b

slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 06:47:31PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > I need to update the documentation. But we need to get to the point > where the releng side is transparent and just happens. The crazy > schedules we have had since f18 have allowed zero time for Release > Engineering and QA to do mu

Re: aoetools package updates from upstream

2013-08-20 Thread Christopher Meng
在 2013-8-21 AM3:51,"Ed Cashin" 写道: > > Hi. > > I'm an upstream maintainer for the aoetools, the user space software that complements the aoe driver in the Linux kernel. Hi, I think I've taken this package as if I didn't take it, it will be orphaned, even retired. I'm happy to see upstream can ma

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 06:47:31PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> I need to update the documentation. But we need to get to the point >> where the releng side is transparent and just happens. The crazy >> schedules we have had since f18 hav

Re: What to do with a noarch package that fails to build on ARM

2013-08-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:55:57 -0500 Andrew McNabb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:32:37PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > Are you *sure* that this is an ARM-related failure? The ARM > > builders are picking up a lot of load for noarch builds

Re: 4ti2 / Re: Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-20 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > You've figured it out for yourself. Congrats! ;) It's amazing I get anything done with all of these rocks in my head. > No binary rpm gets "renamed" in that case. The 4ti2 packages built from > the new src.rpm would be ordinary updates/u

Re: slowing down the development schedule for a release.

2013-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:09:03PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Without spinning the wheel of blame -- at Flock, we talked about slowing > > down the crazy train a little bit, probably not for F20 at this point but > > for F21, specifically so we all have a chance to work on those kind of > > thing

Re: aoetools package updates from upstream

2013-08-20 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 09:07:04AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: > 在 2013-8-21 AM3:51,"Ed Cashin" 写道: > > > > Hi. > > > > I'm an upstream maintainer for the aoetools, the user space software that > complements the aoe driver in the Linux kernel. > > Hi, > > I think I've taken this package as if

[Test-Announce] 2013-08-21 @ 16:00 UTC - F20 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #1

2013-08-20 Thread Tim Flink
# F20 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #9 # Date: 2013-08-21 # Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Well, it's that time again - time to review some blocker and fe bugs for F20 alpha. We'll be running through the final blockers and freeze excep

Re: Obsoletes, Obsoletes, Obsoletes

2013-08-20 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 00:29 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Oh no! Another one of those threads... ;-) > > Well, a comment from Thomas Moschny inspired me to examine "Obsoletes" > tags in our package collection a bit. I have openssl and fipscheck obsoletes on the list. They were added because