Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 14 Jan 2015, at 12:34, Miloslav Trmač wrote: I'd request all(those who are opposing) too describe their requirements in the etherpad page above. Being able to authenticate as root right after installation would be the requirement for me. Let’s be precise here; “able to authenticate as

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/14/2015 12:39 PM, Chris Adams wrote: MX-CNAME is against RFCs but in common enough real-world usage that anything that doesn't handle it is generally considered broken. However, that isn't the case for cchtml.com; the MX points to cchtml.com, not mail.cchtml.com, and cchtml.com has an A

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 14.01.2015 um 19:39 schrieb Chris Adams: MX-CNAME is against RFCs but in common enough real-world usage that anything that doesn't handle it is generally considered broken. Well, one of the biggest German freemailers refused to send emails for recipient domains using MX is CNAME when using

Split DNS broken again - test case?

2015-01-14 Thread Ian Pilcher
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161232 It seems like this is the 3rd or 4th time that this functionality has been broken, leaving anyone who needs to simultaneously connect to both VPN and other non-public (e.g. home network) resources up a creek. Would this be worth of a test case?

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 16:54 +, P J P wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Ok, I state my opposition to without-password too inequivocably here. Mostly because it is just the same as 'no', given there is no way, in a regular install to seed a key

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-14)

2015-01-14 Thread Matthew Miller
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-01-14) === Meeting started by mattdm at 18:01:50 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-14/fesco.2015-01-14-18.01.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a program, should an actual bug come along, because you

Re: Koji build root caching

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:40:35 +0100 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 16:00 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:57:59 +0100 Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:35:02AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.01.2015 um 00:29 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se mailto:Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: If they don't have such a build-time option, then what I'm saying is

Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root

2015-01-14 Thread Susi Lehtola
On 01/14/2015 04:38 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: And it seems that this is the number of packages written in C++: $ repoquery --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide --source --whatrequires 'libstdc++.so.6*' | sort -u | sed -r 's/(.*)-.*-.*/\1/' | uniq | wc -l 2396 I'd like to point out at this place,

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2015 um 00:29 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se mailto:Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: If they don't have such a build-time option, then what I'm saying is that if one were to suppress the messages, then one should do

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Björn Persson
Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a program, should an actual

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2015 um 00:36 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: the real problem with that crap messages is that if you are about writing a longer command line and the in background mode started GUI app decides to blow out it's helpful messages they appear unasked in the middle of your input and so

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote: Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be

Unplanned Fedora Outage 2015-01-14 21:30

2015-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Fedora had a 35 minutes off the internet outage starting around 21:30 UTC. This was due to my pushing an incomplete DNS table out causing named to crash when it got to starting the file getfedora.com and not finding it. Problem was backed out and changed but because of a bootstrap issue of needing

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2015 um 23:36 schrieb Alexander Ploumistos: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson wrote: Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:36:27AM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be very difficult to

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Björn Persson Bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: If they don't have such a build-time option, then what I'm saying is that if one were to suppress the messages, then one should do it with a run-time option, not a build-time option. Then no different build would be

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Björn Persson
Alexander Ploumistos wrote: On the other hand, if every message that was not meant for the user were suppressed, it would be very difficult to troubleshoot such a program, should an actual bug come along, because you would need a different build to get useful output in the console or a logging

Re: Split DNS broken again - test case?

2015-01-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 14:29 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161232 It seems like this is the 3rd or 4th time that this functionality has been broken, leaving anyone who needs to simultaneously connect to both VPN and other non-public (e.g. home network)

wxPython 3.0 in Rawhide

2015-01-14 Thread Scott Talbert
All, As discussed in [1], I've updated the wxPython package into Rawhide to wxPython 3.0. I'll start working on testing all of the dependent packages. If any maintainers of dependent packages can test their packages, that would be helpful too. Please let me know the status, or update the

[EPEL-devel] Questiona regarding c++11 support

2015-01-14 Thread Zhiwei Zhu
Dear all, I am not sure whether this has been discussed before or whether it's appropriate to discuss this in this list. My question is about c++11 support for the projects on epel (probably more specifically, epel7). Do we have any kind of general policy regarding c++11 support? I am asking

gcc and re-initialization of dynamic libraries?

2015-01-14 Thread Dave Johansen
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60731 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1083292 I know that this isn't directly related to Fedora, but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on how to proceed with this. clang and icpc generate code that has the correct behavior

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Revert to older gcc, mass rebuild everything again * Contingency deadline: Before release This is an invasive contingency mechanism, requiring retesting a lot of functionality; the contingency

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 09:12:42AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:55:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/porting_to.html → 404 That will be added likely after the test mass rebuild with what we

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 14 January 2015 at 14:31, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: Again, how is that different from F9, F11, F13, F15, F17, F19? Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change (as you know) compared to the GCC upgrades for those releases is moving from C89 to C11 as

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. What are the

Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:57:59 +0100 Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/13/2015 06:01 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: that all being said. koji doesn't use any caching and will not use the lvm plugin. we make every buildroot from scratch

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 January 2015 at 14:31, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 05:53:23 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: IMO, the ones opposing are those who fear their current setups/practices would break. Because they need remote 'root' access in their set-up. Which is a

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 03:05:09PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: Well, if we want to turn Fedora into a collection of obsolete software rather than trying to lead progress, we don't have to update anything. I think that's a bit of an over reaction, ultimately F-22 is due to branch on

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications

2015-01-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 13:24 +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 01:00:27PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications =

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 05:53:23 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hello Simo, On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 2:29 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: Sorry this is false. You got enough emails telling you this change is undesirable, that's the definition of opposition and means you have

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:24:29PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:55:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/porting_to.html →

[perl-Linux-Pid] Specify all dependencies

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 5f5a4df31398551361d1b0f75a1ecb90942b4381 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jan 14 15:32:31 2015 +0100 Specify all dependencies perl-Linux-Pid.spec | 15 +-- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Linux-Pid.spec

[perl-Linux-Pid] Fix dependency filtering

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a38f98427aa354088ce55c45be29322c7e08c593 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jan 14 15:36:03 2015 +0100 Fix dependency filtering perl-Linux-Pid.spec |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Linux-Pid.spec b/perl-Linux-Pid.spec

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:37:02PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:31, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: Again, how is that different from F9, F11, F13, F15, F17, F19? Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change (as you know)

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Richard Hughes
On 14 January 2015 at 14:37, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change (as you know) compared to the GCC upgrades for those releases is moving from C89 to C11 as the default C standard for the compiler Is

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:48:16 +0100 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:51 -0700 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:

Koji build root caching

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 16:00 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:57:59 +0100 Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/13/2015 06:01 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: that all being said. koji doesn't use any caching and will not use the

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 09:12:42AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: - Original Message - On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:55:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/porting_to.html → 404

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:44:03PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:37, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change (as you know) compared to the GCC upgrades for those releases is

[perl-Data-Flow] Specify all dependencies

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit fe850d568e8d59fb2c295c191fa53ee85f7f7c50 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jan 14 15:46:28 2015 +0100 Specify all dependencies perl-Data-Flow.spec | 19 --- 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Data-Flow.spec

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 03:47:18PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:44:03PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:37, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:55:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/porting_to.html → 404 That will be added likely after the test mass rebuild with what

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Robinson
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-5/porting_to.html → 404 That will be added likely after the test mass rebuild with what we find during that. Do you have any estimate when it will be done? F22 schedule is/will be pretty tight. We already have problem scheduling mass rebuild and I expect GCC 5

[perl-IO-stringy] Correct changelog date

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a25222cb60a95469eef076d20d326077d5c423b2 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Thu Jan 15 07:53:09 2015 +0100 Correct changelog date perl-IO-stringy.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IO-stringy.spec b/perl-IO-stringy.spec

[perl-IO-stringy] Specify all dependencies

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3d4630751c1c599e2d8cda14adb59f578d66477a Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Thu Jan 15 07:48:37 2015 +0100 Specify all dependencies perl-IO-stringy.spec | 16 +--- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IO-stringy.spec

[perl-File-Which] Specify all dependencies

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 98512bb983c0a188364f14763b8d77488a82ef42 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Thu Jan 15 08:14:27 2015 +0100 Specify all dependencies perl-File-Which.spec | 21 + 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-File-Which.spec

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:31:05AM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 13:24 +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 01:00:27PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing report

2015-01-14 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 997 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 216 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1616/puppet-2.7.26-1.el6 87

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing report

2015-01-14 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 997 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 451 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5 216

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 14 January 2015 at 14:47, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:44:03PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:37, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: Only a partial answer to your question, but one fairly significant change

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 15:53 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:48:16 +0100 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Tue, 13 Jan 2015

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications

2015-01-14 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Jaroslav Reznik píše v St 14. 01. 2015 v 13:00 +0100: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnomeShell_NewNotifications Change owner(s): Florian Müllner fmuel...@redhat.com Redesign the way in which notifications are

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Wine to use mesa Direct3D

2015-01-14 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 01/14/2015 06:28 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: [snip] * Contingency mechanism: Revert and try to do in next release I don't see this one happening. The patch set is large. Upstream has rejected it. The affected

Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day

2015-01-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:43:46PM +0100, drago01 wrote: Yeah I just delete those mails now days. Its just spam F19 is EOL is not news that I need to get 1000 times. Right, clearly, that message is not really for _you_. It's for the people who reported the bug. -- Matthew Miller

Invitation to DevConf.cz 2015

2015-01-14 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Hi, let me invite you to DevConf.cz 2015 [1] which will take place in Brno, Czech Republic on Feb 6-8. The third day of the conference will again be Fedora Day with a lot of Fedora-focused talks and discussions (and also with a lot of Fedora contributors around). You can find the list of

How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Halle, I have got a mail from a guy which ask me for co-maintainership of the inady-mt package. Unfortunately, I have got the below error report on the try to contact him via mail. So I would like to ask how I can contact him via an alternative mail contact. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) BTW,

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:47, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:44:03PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 14:37, Jonathan Underwood

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:24:29PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: I was thinking exactly that, mass rebuild is scheduled for Jan 30th according to the schedule [1] with branching 10 days or so later. That is only two weeks away. With statements like The release will happen probably in the

[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2015-01-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369 Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|impact=moderate,public=2014

[Bug 1169369] CVE-2014-9130 libyaml: assert failure when processing wrapped strings

2015-01-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169369 Vincent Danen vda...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1182257

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Miloslav Trmač
* Contingency mechanism: Revert to older gcc, mass rebuild everything again * Contingency deadline: Before release This is an invasive contingency mechanism, requiring retesting a lot of functionality; the contingency deadline for this (i.e. when we need to be comfortable that the revert will

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:37:22AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: Look at your results; you did not get that result in your dig. You got tahk you for your information, but the error message was created by a relay host located by my ISP. failure while trying to resolve cchtml.com/MX. It works

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:54:09 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Ok, I state my opposition

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:51:24PM -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Revert to older gcc, mass rebuild everything again * Contingency deadline: Before release This is an invasive contingency mechanism, requiring retesting a lot of functionality; the contingency

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:34:22 -0500 (EST) Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:54:09 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I'd request all(those who are opposing) too describe their requirements in the etherpad page above. Being able to

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/14/2015 11:52 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: I have retried to send the message without any success. But I have tried to maske an DNS query directly agins the Google DNS and have find out, that the hostname, which you have specified as a mail excahnge is a CNAME. But this is not allowed for MX

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Jochen Schmitt: It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because this is absolutly require to send mails to your domain bullshit - fix your mailserver there is no need for a MX record read the SMTP RFC the only reason when you need a MX is

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:54:09 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Ok, I state my opposition to without-password too inequivocably here. Mostly because it is just the same as 'no', given there is no way, in a

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:47:07AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Hi, I'm here. I'm not sure why your e-mail failed. Could you try it again? When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour domain doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the homstmaster of

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/14/2015 11:26 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour domain doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the homstmaster of your domain without any response. It very important, that your domain provides any MX records because

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de said: When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour domain doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the homstmaster of your domain without any response. Look at your results; you did not get that result

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread P J P
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 10:44 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Anaconda installer OR maybe OpenSSH package needs to create initial set of authentication keys for 'root' user. Sorry, but what is the point of this operation, wrt auth with keys issue ? Well, it can be used it to export to

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/14/2015 10:42 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: I have got a mail from a guy which ask me for co-maintainership of the inady-mt package. Unfortunately, I have got the below error report on the try to contact him via mail. So I would like to ask how I can contact him via an alternative mail

[Bug 628655] perl segfaults when joining a thread and using perl-Tk

2015-01-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=628655 Andreas Bierfert andreas.bierf...@lowlatency.de changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread P J P
Hi, On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Ok, I state my opposition to without-password too inequivocably here. Mostly because it is just the same as 'no', given there is no way, in a regular install to seed a key into the root account. Except you have no mechanism to

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 05:05:50PM +, David Howells wrote: Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Switch GCC in Fedora 22 to 5.x.y, rebuild all packages with it. Does cross-gcc need to switch simultaneously? Some packages are built with that, I believe. It is a different package,

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread David Howells
Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Switch GCC in Fedora 22 to 5.x.y, rebuild all packages with it. Does cross-gcc need to switch simultaneously? Some packages are built with that, I believe. David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-14 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:54:09 + (UTC) P J P pj.pan...@yahoo.co.in wrote: On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 8:01 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: Ok, I state my opposition to without-password too inequivocably here. Mostly because it is just the same as 'no', given there is no way, in a regular

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:27:51 -0600 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 01/14/2015 11:26 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: When I call dig with your domain, I have to recornized, thatyour domain doesn't provides any MX records. I have tried to contact the homstmaster of your domain

Re: How to contact Michale Cromeworth

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de said: I have retried to send the message without any success. But I have tried to maske an DNS query directly agins the Google DNS and have find out, that the hostname, which you have specified as a mail excahnge is a CNAME. But this is

Self Introduction and Review Request: Sinny Kumari

2015-01-14 Thread Sinny Kumari
Hi List, I just pushed a package for review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1182261 and would like some review on it. I work at Red Hat India and contribute to KDE in my free time. I blog at http://sinny.io/ and also give talks at local FOSS events (the last one was on basic RPM

Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root

2015-01-14 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, I don't think the original question was all that great. If we were to script the change to add the BRs, it would take time but it would mostly be a one-time cost. Reducing buildroot time creation, network bandwidth, and storage savings is a reduction over each new buildroot instance

[Bug 1180476] perl-Devel-PPPort-3.27 is available

2015-01-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180476 Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 1181998] New: perl-Pod-Simple-3.29 is available

2015-01-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181998 Bug ID: 1181998 Summary: perl-Pod-Simple-3.29 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Pod-Simple Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. What are the goals of a mass rebuild now, given that we just had one before F21 Beta?

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications

2015-01-14 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 01:00:27PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnomeShell_NewNotifications Change owner(s): Florian Müllner fmuel...@redhat.com Redesign the way in which

Re: F22 Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 01:00:27PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Gnome Shell - New Notifications = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GnomeShell_NewNotifications Change

Re: Remove gcc, gcc-c++ and make from minimal build root

2015-01-14 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 01/13/2015 06:01 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: that all being said. koji doesn't use any caching and will not use the lvm plugin. we make every buildroot from scratch using a fully clean environment to help with ensuring reproducability. You can cache and still preserve reproducability. What

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 01:53:02 -0600 Yaakov Selkowitz yselk...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: The Fedora 21 mass rebuild took about 40 hours. ;) BTW, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Mass_Rebuild is empty. What are the goals of a mass rebuild

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 02:55:15PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:53:18PM +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: GCC5 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC5 Change owner(s): Jakub Jelínek ja...@redhat.com Switch GCC

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 14.1.2015 v 12:53 Jaroslav Reznik napsal(a): = Proposed System Wide Change: GCC5 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC5 Change owner(s): Jakub Jelínek ja...@redhat.com Switch GCC in Fedora 22 to 5.x.y, rebuild all packages with it. == Detailed Description == GCC 5 is currently

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-01-07)

2015-01-14 Thread Vít Ondruch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 14.1.2015 v 00:24 Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:58:51 -0700 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:50:06 -0700 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: You forgot too many packages? There are

Re: GUI applications writing garbage to stdout/stderr

2015-01-14 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Marcel Oliver m.oli...@jacobs-university.de wrote: Some of the main culprints for me are nemo, evince, and okular; The applications that you mention are parts of specific desktop environments. The messages that you see are not meant to be visible to the user,

File Test-CPAN-Meta-JSON-0.16.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2015-01-14 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-CPAN-Meta-JSON: 1d6f3ff573e8b8b3daf89f677b7404bf Test-CPAN-Meta-JSON-0.16.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Content of change announcements Was:F22 System Wide Change: RpmOstree - Server side composes and atomic upgrades

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@redhat.com wrote: Jaroslav, there is a lot more information on the actual wiki page. Like the fact that this is only for particular opt-in new installs and that yum/dnf/RPM can only operate in read-only mode

[perl-CGI-Fast] Specify run-time dependency versions

2015-01-14 Thread Petr Pisar
commit f74b3fbf7b5b34b64e102cce588f4b657da61688 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Jan 14 12:46:36 2015 +0100 Specify run-time dependency versions perl-CGI-Fast.spec | 15 ++- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-CGI-Fast.spec

F22 System Wide Change: GCC5

2015-01-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: GCC5 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC5 Change owner(s): Jakub Jelínek ja...@redhat.com Switch GCC in Fedora 22 to 5.x.y, rebuild all packages with it. == Detailed Description == GCC 5 is currently in stage3, but in 3 days will move to stage4, in

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