Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, On Wednesday, 2018-05-02 15:23:10 +0200, Tomas Orsava wrote: > Does anyone see a reason not to prioritize ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin? Many have argued one way or another. Here is what I do, sourcing in a .zshrc (or whatever-shell-rc), which gives me selective control to override certain com

Fedora Rawhide-20180504.n.0 compose check report

2018-05-04 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 42/137 (x86_64), 14/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 233888 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/233888 ID: 233895 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller URL: https:

Which sqlite?

2018-05-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
Currently the package 'sqlite2' provides the binary /usr/bin/sqlite, while the package 'sqlite' provides the binary /usr/bin/sqlite3. This results in a confusing interaction, because with sqlite package installed, running sqlite results in a 'command not found' message and a suggestion to inst

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread John Florian
On 2018-05-04 12:25, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 05/04/2018 09:42 AM, John Florian wrote: On 2018-05-04 09:33, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I would do so for the following reasons: 1. Even though the security arguments are weak, they are going to be checkmarks on audits which can't be changed f

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2018-05-04)

2018-05-04 Thread Randy Barlow
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2018-05-04) === Meeting started by bowlofeggs at 15:00:24 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2018-05-04/fesco.2018-05-04-15.00.log.html . Meeting summar

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 05/04/2018 09:42 AM, John Florian wrote: On 2018-05-04 09:33, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I would do so for the following reasons: 1. Even though the security arguments are weak, they are going to be checkmarks on audits which can't be changed for years. 2. When someone gets a "remove this a

Re: ABI break in libidn-1.34

2018-05-04 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 01:44:01PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > There was an unexpected change in the ABI of libidn-1.34, which broke > stringprep (bugs #1566414 #1573961). > > I've built libidn packages for F27 and F28 which revert the change > that broke the compatibility. In F28 there seems

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180504.n.0 changes

2018-05-04 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180503.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180504.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:13 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 8 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 131 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 14.20 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: GCC 8.1.1 broken in rawhide due to annobin

2018-05-04 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, May 4, 2018, 15:46 Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 03:42:11PM +0200, Guido Aulisi wrote: > > It seems broken in f28 too. > > There is a temporary override so that new annobin can be built, it will be > reverted afterwards. > > These shenanigans are exactly what could be avo

Re: GCC 8.1.1 broken in rawhide due to annobin

2018-05-04 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 03:42:11PM +0200, Guido Aulisi wrote: > It seems broken in f28 too. There is a temporary override so that new annobin can be built, it will be reverted afterwards. Jakub ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread John Florian
On 2018-05-04 09:33, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I would do so for the following reasons: 1. Even though the security arguments are weak, they are going to be checkmarks on audits which can't be changed for years. 2. When someone gets a "remove this and find out why the OS did this" it helps if

Re: GCC 8.1.1 broken in rawhide due to annobin

2018-05-04 Thread Guido Aulisi
It seems broken in f28 too. Ciao Guido ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 May 2018 at 05:31, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 4.5.2018 10:50, Jonathan Wakely wrote: >> >> I don't think I like the idea of putting it early in the PATH by >> default, but I don't have a solid argument for why I don't like it. > > > Thanks. Honestly, that's the feeling I get form this discussio

ABI break in libidn-1.34

2018-05-04 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
There was an unexpected change in the ABI of libidn-1.34, which broke stringprep (bugs #1566414 #1573961). I've built libidn packages for F27 and F28 which revert the change that broke the compatibility. In F28 there seems to be only one package (mcabber) which was built with libidn-1.34-1. It wil

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Iain Rae
On 04/05/18 09:50, Jonathan Wakely wrote: On 03/05/18 12:23 -0400, R P Herrold wrote: By convention additions to the path come LAST in priority, because of well known privilege escalation attack approaches (the incautious admin sits down at a 'trapped' nominally sick workstation, and fails to

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 4.5.2018 10:50, Jonathan Wakely wrote: I don't think I like the idea of putting it early in the PATH by default, but I don't have a solid argument for why I don't like it. Thanks. Honestly, that's the feeling I get form this discussion. People don't like it, so they try to explain the reaso

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 03/05/18 12:23 -0400, R P Herrold wrote: By convention additions to the path come LAST in priority, because of well known privilege escalation attack approaches (the incautious admin sits down at a 'trapped' nominally sick workstation, and fails to use a fully qualified path to 'su' or 'sudo'

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 4.5.2018 10:38, Petr Pisar wrote:> How does prioritized ~/.local match removing #!/usr/bin/env from Fedora packages? It smells pretty inconsistently. When running RPM installed tools we want them to run on RPM installed interpreters. When you run stuff from /usr/bin that was installed by d

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-04 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2018-05-03, Tomas Orsava wrote: > On 05/02/2018 05:14 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:10:05AM -0400, Siteshwar Vashisht wrote: >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" Cc: "

Re: GCC 8.1.1 broken in rawhide due to annobin

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 03/05/18 22:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 13:12 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: I think we also need some automated test that validates "can create executables with standard RPM build flags" that is a blocking test before gcc RPMs get pushed into repos since this