Re: Kernel 4.20 rebase plans

2019-01-08 Thread Vascom
Do you mean STIBP? It is alreasy disabled by default in 4.19 and 4.20. ср, 9 янв. 2019 г. в 01:55, Joseph D. Wagner : > > IIRC, there is major performance degradation (anti-Spectre) in 4.20 that will > be turned off by default 4.21. > > Will it be turned off by default in the 4.20 rebase? > >

[Bug 1627091] perl-Tk-804.034-4.fc29 will FTBFS with perl 5.32

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1627091 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|perl-Tk-804.034-4.fc29 will |perl-Tk-804.034-4.fc29 will

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 1/8/19 6:51 PM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: Petr Šabata wrote: Adding BuildRequires: glibc-all-langpacks to all the *.specs obviously fixes this issue. However, I doubt this is right, because I think these warnings originate from some rpm-internal scripts and not from the packages. I suspect

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-01-09 - 93% PASS

2019-01-08 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/01/09/report-389-ds-base-1.4.0.20-20190109gita9ed1e6.fc29.x86_64.html ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[389-devel] [discuss] require_index

2019-01-08 Thread William Brown
Hi, I was looking at the installer inf file, and noticed a new parameter: [backend-userroot] # require_index (bool) # Description: Sets this parameter to "True" to refuse unindexed searches in this database. # Default value: False ;require_index = False What does this feature relate to and how

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora koji outage

2019-01-08 Thread smooge
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora koji outage on 2019-01-11 from 00:00:00 to 00:00:00 UTC The meeting will be about: Planned Outage - Koji Services - 2019-01-11 22:00 UTC There will be an koji outage starting at 2019-01-11 22:00 UTC, which will last approximately

Re: Kernel 4.20 rebase plans

2019-01-08 Thread Joseph D. Wagner
IIRC, there is major performance degradation (anti-Spectre) in 4.20 that will be turned off by default 4.21. Will it be turned off by default in the 4.20 rebase? Joseph D. Wagner On 2019-01-08 14:31, Justin Forbes wrote: > The 4.20 kernel was released just before the end of the year, but

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: krb5 crypto modernization

2019-01-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RH" == Robbie Harwood writes: RH> Ah, I see, you're talking about the case when the enctype is already RH> not permitted. That all makes sense then. Right. Basically, if any one of these: * Warnings in previous versions about principals without modern etypes * Logging in the new

Kernel 4.20 rebase plans

2019-01-08 Thread Justin Forbes
The 4.20 kernel was released just before the end of the year, but the first stable update should be dropping in the next day or two. We have a 4.20 test day scheduled for Tuesday, January 15th. Depending on the results of that test day, Fedora 29 will be rebased very shortly afterwards, followed

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:50 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > The additional information could be > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > > > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200 "-"

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: krb5 crypto modernization

2019-01-08 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jason L Tibbitts III writes: >> "RH" == Robbie Harwood writes: >>> >>> Well certainly there isn't much you can do to fix old principals on >>> existing systems. But the current versions should be complaining >>> loudly when it has to issue a ticket for a principal that lacks a >>> modern

Re: Proposal: Add a separate “flatpaks/” namespace.

2019-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 12:28:51PM -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: > * Reduce some confusion. A Flatpak is a module, but it’s *also* a > container, and the dist-git repository will include files for both. I'm +1 to this for this reason. I think it's less confusing than the downside loose-module

Re: OUTAGE: Koji system 2019-01-11 -> 2019-01-14

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
This is a reminder that this begins this Friday and will probably be in place for 4 days. If there are increased downtimes, we will update the data when we know it. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:51, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Planned Outage - Koji Services - 2019-01-11 22:00 UTC > > There will be

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 09:59 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:17 AM Benjamin Berg wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 12:33 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:35 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > > > > *which* *do* *not* *permit* *or* *no* *longer* *permit* *the* >

License change for rust-lru_time_cache

2019-01-08 Thread Josh Stone
Upstream changed [1] from GPLv3 to dual licenses, MIT or BSD, which is now released and in rawhide: rust-lru_time_cache-0.8.1-1.fc30 [1]: https://github.com/maidsafe/lru_time_cache/pull/103 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: F30 System-Wide Change proposal: GNOME 3.32

2019-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:42:00AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > Update GNOME to the latest upstream release, 3.32. Does this release feature the new lockscreen Allan Day was working on? https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2018/05/09/redesigning-the-lock-screen/ I hope so because I love it, but, also:

F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Avoid Fedora-specific build flags in non-RPM Python extensions

2019-01-08 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_Extension_Flags == Summary == The build flags (CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS) saved in the Python's distutils module for building extension modules are switched from: * %{build_cflags}, * %{build_cxxflags} and * %{build_ldflags} to: *

F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Reset locale if not available

2019-01-08 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Reset-locale-if-not-available == Summary == When logging in over ssh or another mechanism, locale settings are forwarded. If the destination does not support that locale, C.UTF-8 will be used instead. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Zbyszek | Zbigniew

F30 System-Wide Change proposal: Reset locale if not available

2019-01-08 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Reset-locale-if-not-available == Summary == When logging in over ssh or another mechanism, locale settings are forwarded. If the destination does not support that locale, C.UTF-8 will be used instead. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Zbyszek | Zbigniew

F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: Avoid Fedora-specific build flags in non-RPM Python extensions

2019-01-08 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_Extension_Flags == Summary == The build flags (CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS) saved in the Python's distutils module for building extension modules are switched from: * %{build_cflags}, * %{build_cxxflags} and * %{build_ldflags} to: *

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Tim Landscheidt
I wrote: > […] > Adding: > | config_opts['environment']['LANG'] = 'C' > to ~/.config/mock.cfg seems to solve that. That was meant to say: | config_opts['environment']['LANG'] = 'LANG=C.UTF-8' Tim ___ perl-devel mailing list --

[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Co

2019-01-08 Thread smooge
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: EPEL Steering Co on 2019-01-09 from 18:00:00 to 19:00:00 GMT At freenode@fedora-meeting The meeting will be about: This is the weekly EPEL Steering Committee Meeting. Agenda is in the

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Petr Šabata wrote: >> > Adding >> > BuildRequires: glibc-all-langpacks >> > to all the *.specs obviously fixes this issue. However, I doubt this is >> > right, because I think these warnings originate from some rpm-internal >> > scripts and not from the packages. >> I suspect you're running

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 06:02:48PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 05:58:35PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Ralf Corsepius [08/01/2019 17:33] : > > > > > > Adding > > > BuildRequires: glibc-all-langpacks > > > to all the *.specs obviously fixes this issue. However, I

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread James Cassell
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > The additional information could be > > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET

Proposal: Add a separate “flatpaks/” namespace.

2019-01-08 Thread Owen Taylor
Currently, the content for a Flatpak in Fedora can be found in modules/. E.g.: https://src.fedoraproject.org/modules/quadrapassel/tree/master - I’d like to propose creating a separate namespace in src.fedoraproject.org - flatpaks/ Benefits: * Allow automation to easily distinguish Flatpaks from

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190108.n.0 changes

2019-01-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190107.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190108.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:5 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 142 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 1.68 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Robert Marcano
On 1/7/19 2:28 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking measures. We don't want to track; just count. Uh, so what's the story there? i mean, if you pass over the uuid you

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Petr Šabata
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 05:58:35PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Ralf Corsepius [08/01/2019 17:33] : > > > > Adding > > BuildRequires: glibc-all-langpacks > > to all the *.specs obviously fixes this issue. However, I doubt this is > > right, because I think these warnings originate from some

Re: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ralf Corsepius [08/01/2019 17:33] : > > Adding > BuildRequires: glibc-all-langpacks > to all the *.specs obviously fixes this issue. However, I doubt this is > right, because I think these warnings originate from some rpm-internal > scripts and not from the packages. I suspect you're running

Re: [atomic-announce] Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20190107.0

2019-01-08 Thread Sinny Kumari
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:52 PM wrote: > > A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: > > Version: 29.20190107.0 > Commit(x86_64): > 822093aa47c985d24d5f3a40ad213d68f7734be3bff872c757d39315048691a4 > Commit(aarch64): >

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 11:42 AM Benjamin Berg wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > The additional information could be > > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Benjamin Berg
Hi, On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > The additional information could be > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > > > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

2019-01-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, ATM, many (all?) of my perl packages raise several warnings of the kind below, when building them in mock: ... perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 00:30, Christopher Tubbs wrote: > A few concerns/comments (inline): > > > === The problem === > > > > * A. Currently, we can only count Fedora OS use by observing IP > > addresses. This is subject to undercounting due to NAT — and to > > overcounting due to short DHCP

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:50 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > The additional information could be > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > > > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200 "-"

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:25:25PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > And let me also stress that if you do it this way there's a better > chance that people will leave this on, since you won't raise red flags > all over the place that you can track individual users with this. Yeah, absolutely!

Fedora Rawhide-20190108.n.0 compose check report

2019-01-08 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 3 of 47 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 13/131 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 04:22:39PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > The additional information could be > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200 "-" "dnf/2.7.5" > If all you want to do is count, then it should be

[Modularity] Working Group IRC meeting minutes (2019-01-08)

2019-01-08 Thread Nils Philippsen
= #fedora-meeting-3: Weekly Meeting of the Modularity Working Group = Meeting started by nils at 15:00:06 UTC. Minutes:

Re: Bodhi update pushes are now automated

2019-01-08 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 09:41 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > FWIW, I am beginning to work on a proposal for a new updates policy > and > I plan for this to be part of it - the update will by default go > stable > unless a human stops it. I have filed a FESCo ticket to request this change to the

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.01.19 16:22, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > On Di, 08.01.19 07:49, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > The additional information could be > > > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > > HTTP/1.1"

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.01.19 07:49, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > The additional information could be > > 10.5.124.209 - - [31/Dec/2018:09:07:21 +] "GET > /metalink?repo=fedora-28=x86_64== > HTTP/1.1" 200 62200 "-" "dnf/2.7.5" If all you want to do is count, then it should be entirely

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:17 AM Benjamin Berg wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 12:33 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:35 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > > > *which* *do* *not* *permit* *or* *no* *longer* *permit* *the* > > > *identification* *of* *data* *subjects* > > > > How do

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 06:23, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:14 Reindl Harald napsal(a): > > but the UUID is sent over TCP and so you receive the current IP at the > > same time with the UUID and that way you can even pofile how that > > machine is moved around the country > > But

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 03:43, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 07.01.19 16:58, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > I wonder if it is worth introducing an entirely new tracking concept > > > here if you actually don't want to track but just count. The NTP > > > approach has

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-08 Thread Gwyn Ciesla
On 1/7/19 8:56 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 07. 01. 19 15:52, Gwyn Ciesla wrote:>> > pygtk2    alexl, alt-gtk-de-sig,   0 >>> weeks ago >>>    caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig, >>>    johnp, orphan,

[389-devel] Please review: PR 50130 - Building RPMs on RHEL8 fails

2019-01-08 Thread Marc Muehlfeld
https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/pull-request/50131 -- Marc Muehlfeld (Senior Technical Writer) Customer Content Services ___ Red Hat GmbH, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 14, 85630 Grasbrunn, Germany http://www.de.redhat.com/,

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 09:30:56AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > How Mock should handle this? DNF executed by Mock cannot send VERSION_ID > and VARIANT_ID of chroot(ed) environment because they are not know yet. > I think the question in general is - how to put tracking of build systems > aside?

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-08 13:42, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot wrote: 1. it needs to be opt-out not opt-in (ie an explicit question in the installer, with no tracking unless the user says yes) I think you mean "opt-in not opt-out". (At least, that's what your explanation in the parentheses

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 22:47, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > Since there is no personal information attached, I don't see how on the > > face of it this is a privacy violation. I want to take this concern > > seriously, but I need more to go on than "this is inherent". Can you >

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > 1. it needs to be opt-out not opt-in (ie an explicit question in the > installer, with no tracking unless the user says yes) I think you mean "opt-in not opt-out". (At least, that's what your explanation in the parentheses describes.) Other than that apparent typo, I

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-08 12:33, Miroslav Suchý a écrit : Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:35 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): *which* *do* *not* *permit* *or* *no* *longer* *permit* *the* *identification* *of* *data* *subjects* How do you identify data subject solely on UUID? Art 26 makes it pretty clear that reversing

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 12:33 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:35 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > > *which* *do* *not* *permit* *or* *no* *longer* *permit* *the* > > *identification* *of* *data* *subjects* > > How do you identify data subject solely on UUID? You also inherently

Help Needed: Fedora FOSDEM Booth

2019-01-08 Thread Zacharias Mitzelos
Hello everyone, FOSDEM[0], the biggest free and non-commercial event organized by and for the community in Europe, is less than a month away. The conference will be held in Brussels, Belgium, on February 2 & 3. As every year, EMEA Ambassadors organize the booth at FOSDEM, where many

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:35 Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > *which* *do* *not* *permit* *or* *no* *longer* *permit* *the* > *identification* *of* *data* *subjects* How do you identify data subject solely on UUID? Miroslav ___ devel mailing list --

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 1/8/19 1:06 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Dne 08. 01. 19 v 10:10 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): I an IP address qualifies as "personal data", then an installation UUID does too. IANAL but I disagree. With IP address, I can very easily guess your town/village. With more effort I can

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:14 Reindl Harald napsal(a): > but the UUID is sent over TCP and so you receive the current IP at the > same time with the UUID and that way you can even pofile how that > machine is moved around the country But it is not - or to be precise - will not be stored as couple, so

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Peter Robinson
> Dne 08. 01. 19 v 10:10 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > I an IP address qualifies as "personal data", then an installation UUID > > does too. > > IANAL but I disagree. With IP address, I can very easily guess your > town/village. With more effort I can track you to > individual house

Agenda for Tuesday's Modularity Working Group Meeting (2019-01-08)

2019-01-08 Thread Nils Philippsen
Find below a list of topics which are planned to be discussed in the Fedora Modularity Working Group meeting on Tuesday at 15:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 on irc.freenode.net. To find out when this is in your local time zone, check the Fedora Calendar (if you've set it and are logged in):

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Tom Hughes
On 08/01/2019 10:38, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, you want to use standard primitives, and a HMAC is one that is designed for purposes like this. For the reasons why a HMAC is constructed the way it is, read the wikipedia page. Well it's constructed the way it is (as wikipedia explains) to

[Bug 1664256] Upgrade perl-Test-Simple to 1.302156

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664256 Paul Howarth changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 08.01.19 10:11, Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 08:57, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Yes, Tom's proposal makes sense. Calculate the UUID you submit as > > HMAC(machined_id, CONCAT(fixedappuuid, unixtime/432000)) > > Out of interest, how is using a

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-08 11:17, Miroslav Suchý a écrit : Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:04 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): IANAL but I disagree. With IP address, I can very easily guess your town/village. With more effort I can track you to individual house and individual device. You cannot say the same about UUID. I

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 08. 01. 19 v 11:04 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > IANAL but I disagree. With IP address, I can very easily guess your > town/village. With more effort I can track you to > individual house and individual device. > You cannot say the same about UUID. I just checked and UUID is definitelly under

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 08:57, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Yes, Tom's proposal makes sense. Calculate the UUID you submit as > HMAC(machined_id, CONCAT(fixedappuuid, unixtime/432000)) Out of interest, how is using a HMAC different to just using the machine-id appended with a salt, sha256'd?

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Benjamin Berg
Hi, On Tue, 2019-01-08 at 10:06 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > You can turn it all the way you like getting accurate counts means > disambiguating systems which means tracking, regardless if you do it > in a central way or via system agents. No, you do not need to track individual machines.

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 08. 01. 19 v 10:10 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > I an IP address qualifies as "personal data", then an installation UUID does > too. IANAL but I disagree. With IP address, I can very easily guess your town/village. With more effort I can track you to individual house and

[Bug 1664253] Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664253 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- perl-File-Temp-0.230.900-1.fc29 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 29. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-e5b3682470 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the

[Bug 1664253] Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664253 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version|

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-08 04:00, Matthew Miller a écrit : On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:09:48PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Please no! This is an inherent privacy violation. I hate software doing this and I always opt out of it. I find it especially worrying that Free Software is now doing this more and more

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 10:00:25PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:09:48PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Please no! This is an inherent privacy violation. I hate software doing > > this > > and I always opt out of it. I find it especially worrying that Free > >

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2019-01-07 23:44, John Harris a écrit : On Monday, January 7, 2019 5:20:55 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 22:54:46 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: So this allows better tracking than if you just had to go by IP, time and other information in the requests. Keep in

Re: Unretirement of js-jquery2

2019-01-08 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 08. 01. 19 v 0:11 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > On 07. 01. 19 18:13, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Nice, so the script is broken and does not report the dependencies >> correctly [1] and now js-jquery2 went unnoticed and get retired although >> it is required by rubygem-jquery-rails, similarly to

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 22:54, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 7:31 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > > measures. We don't

[Bug 1664256] New: Upgrade perl-Test-Simple to 1.302156

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664256 Bug ID: 1664256 Summary: Upgrade perl-Test-Simple to 1.302156 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Test-Simple Assignee: p...@city-fan.org

[Bug 1664253] New: Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664253 Bug ID: 1664253 Summary: Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-File-Temp Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com

[Bug 1664255] Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664255 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution|---

[Bug 1664255] New: Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309

2019-01-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664255 Bug ID: 1664255 Summary: Upgrade perl-File-Temp to 0.2309 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-File-Temp Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 16:58, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I wonder if it is worth introducing an entirely new tracking concept > > here if you actually don't want to track but just count. The NTP > > approach has the benefit that you introduce no new tracking concept at > > all,

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Not if we don't keep them for long. One idea is to rotate them fairly > > frequently. But this is mostly a statement of intent and might be more about > > how we build the backend than about what we force in the client. > > My understanding is that the Fedora project does not control how much

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 07. 01. 19 v 17:34 Ben Cotton napsal(a): > * We need to be able to distinguish between short-lived instances > (like temporary containers or test machines) and actual installations. How Mock should handle this? DNF executed by Mock cannot send VERSION_ID and VARIANT_ID of chroot(ed)

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Miller: > Not if we don't keep them for long. One idea is to rotate them fairly > frequently. But this is mostly a statement of intent and might be more about > how we build the backend than about what we force in the client. My understanding is that the Fedora project does not control