[EPEL-devel] Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Co

2019-08-27 Thread Thomas Stephen Lee
Hi All, you probably have seen this. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/F6Z7KFVNHB26NXL2IROARWZQVQPT7J6O/ thanks. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:30 PM wrote: > Dear all, > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: >EPEL Steering Co on

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:26 PM Christopher wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:27 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > The Workstation technical specification document says in part: > > Where is the full technical specification document, so one can read it > not in part, but in full?

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:27 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:23 PM John Harris wrote: > > > > sshd was enabled by default back in F23, unless my install was completely > > broken. I wouldn't remember that well, unfortunately, as I've been running > > KDE > > since the end

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-08-28 - 96% PASS

2019-08-27 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/08/28/report-389-ds-base-1.4.1.6-20190827git8474a17.fc30.x86_64.html ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: New release of Mock (fixes and subscription-manager support)

2019-08-27 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:20 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Hi, > I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes > see: > https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18 > I just submitted packages to Bodhi. > > I would like to point two

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-08-27 19:58:15, Chris Murphy wrote: ... I definitely do not want to pester developers, or make their day to day life difficult. If there's no satisfactory GUI right now to manage it, it's difficult to even experiment with different policies. The original firewalld proposal considered the

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Google John, Google is your friend... ;-) https://wiki.list.org/DEV/ModernArchiving On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:32 PM John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:27:49 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3, > and > > it is

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:27:49 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3, and > it is mentioned here: > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/51 What leads you to believe this was a planned feature? -- John M. Harris, Jr.

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3, and it is mentioned here: https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/51 On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:23 PM John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:20:57 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Well, there is an open

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:23 PM John Harris wrote: > > sshd was enabled by default back in F23, unless my install was completely > broken. I wouldn't remember that well, unfortunately, as I've been running KDE > since the end of the F24 release cycle. I don't think so. * Fri Mar 13 2015 Dennis

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:20:57 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people have > a bigger imagination. ;-) > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: >

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:20 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people > have a bigger imagination. ;-) > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: >> > > On

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people have a bigger imagination. ;-) On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > >

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You could also just use NNTP, which wouldn't require you to have anything > > in your mailbox. Then you can reply from the same

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:03:37 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Show what? Sorry, I don't know what your talking about. Have you ever > used RSS? When you subscribe to a feed, you get the article... in this > case it would be the email in HyperKitty. When you click on the title, it > opens

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Show what? Sorry, I don't know what your talking about. Have you ever used RSS? When you subscribe to a feed, you get the article... in this case it would be the email in HyperKitty. When you click on the title, it opens up the sourced article on the web. In this case it would be the email

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:58:11 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > How exactly do your RSS feedreaders handle threading? > > Don't you mean how HyperKitty will handle it? I won't be responding from my > Feedreader, I would

New Contributor slee

2019-08-27 Thread Scott Lee
Hello, I'm slee on FAS and interested in contributing to the Python SIG. I've read over the wiki and some of the Python 2to3 guides as well as looked over https://github.com/fedora-python. Please let me know if there's something in particular I can start helping with as well as if there's some

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > How exactly do your RSS feedreaders handle threading? Don't you mean how HyperKitty will handle it? I won't be responding from my Feedreader, I would be reading the contents from the feed, and if I was interested in

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Freeze

2019-08-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/27/19 4:27 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 27. 08. 19 13:06, Paul Howarth wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:55:18 -0400 >> Mohan Boddu wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Today's an important day on the Fedora 31 schedule[1], with several >>> significant cut-offs. First of all today is >>> the Bodhi

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > You could also just use NNTP, which wouldn't require you to have anything in > your mailbox. Then you can reply from the same client, as well :) Yeah, Kevin mentioned NNTP also... but as I mentioned to him I haven't

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Hey Kevin: > > > > Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even > > provide the same functionality, that is unreasonable and isn't going to > > happen. > > > > > > But

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
> On 8/27/19 11:00 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Would your concerns be addressed if tjere was a gateway from this email > list to Discord? Would something simple that just stores each email in a > separate Discord item work, and if not, why? > > BTW, is there a gateway of this sort already

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Hey Kevin: > Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even > provide the same functionality, that is unreasonable and isn't going to > happen. > > > But you are assuming that we actually WANT to migrate, which is NOT the > case. >

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Freeze

2019-08-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Vít Ondruch wrote: > I think that all the major milestones happen typically on Tuesday, so > this must have been (unfortunate) typo IMO. But the point is that this was corrected less than 24 hours before the freeze kicks in. This is a completely unacceptably short notice. It is already bad

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:15:52 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > That actually isn't clear at all. And I am the end user and sysadmin. > > > I'm at home, I have my own AP, but none of the equipment is under my > > > direct control, it's centrally managed by a company I don't even pay. > > >

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:58:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:02 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > > > > However, Fedora Workstation is an edition. Which means it has a > > *policy-defined* target audience. That target audience is defined here: > >

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gerald B. Cox wrote: > If the requirement is that discourse completely replicate 100% the > functionality of mailing lists, that is unreasonable and isn't going to > happen. If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even provide the same functionality, that is

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
> > That actually isn't clear at all. And I am the end user and sysadmin. > > I'm at home, I have my own AP, but none of the equipment is under my > > direct control, it's centrally managed by a company I don't even pay. > > So, is it trustworthy? Maybe. Maybe not. I have no practical way of > >

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:49:03 PM MST Japheth Cleaver wrote: > On 8/27/2019 4:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > >> mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300: > >> > >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:05:57 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:24 PM John Harris wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > Windows is enable by default with two "zones" or "policies" (I can't > > > even tell

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:30 PM John Harris wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree > > with any assessment that Fedora Workstation is, on this point alone, > > in some sort of vulnerable

Re: HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > People keep mentioning HyperKitty as an alternative to Discourse. While I > believe Discourse has more functionality, one thing that would make > HyperKitty a somewhat acceptable alternative would be the addition of RSS > support.

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:24 PM John Harris wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > Windows is enable by default with two "zones" or "policies" (I can't > > even tell from their own UI what to call this), one for private > > networks, and another for

HyperKitty as a Discourse Replacement - Why still no RSS Support

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
People keep mentioning HyperKitty as an alternative to Discourse. While I believe Discourse has more functionality, one thing that would make HyperKitty a somewhat acceptable alternative would be the addition of RSS support. So I started to investigate and found that several tickets were

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:02 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > However, Fedora Workstation is an edition. Which means it has a > *policy-defined* target audience. That target audience is defined here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD#Target_Audience > > Case 1:

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 8/27/2019 4:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300: On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris wrote: No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and address the

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
MacOS has firewall disabled by default on every iteration. Luya On 2019-08-27 4:23 p.m., John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Aug > 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> The other major non-Linux operating systems do.

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree > with any assessment that Fedora Workstation is, on this point alone, > in some sort of vulnerable state outside that of macOS. Talked to a coworker, who is a

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > > The other major non-Linux operating systems do. Both Microsoft Windows > > and Apple macOS ship with active firewalls by default. > > > The firewall on macOS is

Re: [HEADS-UP]: Mercurial with Python3 on rawhide?

2019-08-27 Thread Petr Stodulka
Hi guys, I apologize that I mystified you a little in my prefious email when I wrote that I resolved majority of problems. I looked at that closer today after 1.5w and found that I have been near the start of all troubles. My memory just washed that pain out. So I spend some time around and

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:04:46 AM MST Louis Lagendijk wrote: > On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 10:14 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: > > > On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote: > > > > > > > > > Any new Wifi connection could be identified by their SSID, so it > > could > > still be secure by

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:59:23 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote: > I'm not trying to recommend it, this is already done, e.g. for mdns, > samba-client, or ssh. (To be fair that happens on os install, not > necessarily on package install) > I'm trying to list the problems with those options. There

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:09:12 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 13:01, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > > > > On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > > If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's > > > malicious. > > > You

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
I'm not sure why this isn't clear, but the examples that I provided are far from the only aspects, and I notice you're only addressing the ones that require the user to manually run something. Consider this. Our default ssh config, under your firewall config, would allow any system on any

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris > > wrote: > > > No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and > > > address the > > > idea that "if the

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:54 PM John Harris wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:14:10 AM MST Björn Persson wrote: > > John Harris wrote: > > >On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote: > > >> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens > > >>

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:14:10 AM MST Björn Persson wrote: > John Harris wrote: > >On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote: > >> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens > >> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it? > > > >It

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:14:45 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I would assume you would just use mailing list mode and address > additional recipients. To receive an expert reply I would suggest you ask > the question here: > > https://meta.discourse.org/c/support > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:02:31 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I never said they were. What I said was expecting and requiring Discourse > to 100% replicate everything a mailing list does isn't going to happen and > shouldn't be a requirement. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM John Harris

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:15:16 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Yeah, I completely agree - but that wasn't my intention to try to > convince. I would like additional topics that mirror those in the mailing > lists setup on discourse. That way people can use whichever they want. > The one that

gap-pkg-guava license change

2019-08-27 Thread Jerry James
I am about to build gap-pkg-guava 3.15 in Rawhide. This version changes the license from "GPLv2 or GPLv3" to "GPLv2+", which makes no practical difference at the moment. -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ ___ devel mailing list --

[HEADS UP] Retiring python2 and introducing python27 later this week

2019-08-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
We are retiring python2 and introducing python27 later this week. Rawhide only. As for now, nothing should break, except python2-debug will exist no more. Packages (build)requiring python2 or python2-devel should continue to work for now. If not, let us know. If you plan to keep a Python 2

[HEADS UP] Retiring python2 and introducing python27 later this week

2019-08-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
We are retiring python2 and introducing python27 later this week. Rawhide only. As for now, nothing should break, except python2-debug will exist no more. Packages (build)requiring python2 or python2-devel should continue to work for now. If not, let us know. If you plan to keep a Python 2

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-08-27 Thread Ben Rosser
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

[rpms/perl-Time-Duration] PR #1: Rebuilt for RedHat 8 (EPEL8)

2019-08-27 Thread Breno Brand Fernandes
brandfbb opened a new pull-request against the project: `perl-Time-Duration` that you are following: `` Rebuilt for RedHat 8 (EPEL8) `` To reply, visit the link below https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Time-Duration/pull-request/1 ___ perl-devel

[Bug 1744710] [RFE] EPEL8 branch of perl-HTTP-Headers-Fast

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744710 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:31 PM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/08/2019 09:44] : > > > > Our recommended solution is to find someone that would maintain the mailman3 > > stack for us. > > Does this have to be mailman3 or can it be a different mailing list manager? > Mailman 3

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/08/2019 09:44] : > > Our recommended solution is to find someone that would maintain the mailman3 > stack for us. Does this have to be mailman3 or can it be a different mailing list manager? Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list --

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 8/27/19 11:00 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with mail from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration.  It's not a misconfiguration.  I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail - and I don't want to use an NNTP gateway, I

[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Co

2019-08-27 Thread smooge
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: EPEL Steering Co on 2019-08-28 from 18:00:00 to 19:00:00 GMT At freenode@fedora-meeting The meeting will be about: This is the weekly EPEL Steering Committee Meeting. Agenda is in the

[Bug 1744360] Please build perl-Convert-BinHex for EPEL 8

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744360 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED --- Comment #1 from

[Bug 1744361] Please build perl-MIME-tools for EPEL 8

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744361 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED --- Comment #2 from

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 13:01, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote: > > If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's malicious. > > You executed untrusted code. It's already past your firewall. Game over, > > you're infected. You're closing

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote: > If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's malicious. > You executed untrusted code. It's already past your firewall. Game over, > you're infected. You're closing the stable door after the horse has > bolted. Any application can run

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread David Kaufmann
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 06:58:06AM -0700, John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:37:24 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote: >> Both option have their disadvantages - in the case of "maintainer opens >> ports" the ports are open as soon as the package gets installed, and >> software not

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Yeah, I completely agree - but that wasn't my intention to try to convince. I would like additional topics that mirror those in the mailing lists setup on discourse. That way people can use whichever they want. The one that people prefer will win. Simple as that. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:45

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Björn Persson
John Harris wrote: >On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote: >> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens >> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it? > >It could come from anywhere, that's not the point. A *firewall* would stop it

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:34:40PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I personally don't like them. As the threads increase the discussion > becomes hard to follow... Unlike a non-threaded view of the same discussion, which becomes completely impossible to follow (to say nothing about actual

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Artem Tim
For this who can't change their default zone in firewall after installing Fedora Workstation completely block all ports may result in worse things, like completely turn off firewall, because they can't run their online video games for example and some one always advised them to do this. We

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Markus Larsson
I'm entirely fine with using discourse WHEN it has a functioning mailing list mode. I am not against discourse as such, I am against making changes that forces everyone to consume the information in exactly the same way. Ensure that mailing list mode works in a way that the ones who needs that

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Dan Book
This conversation is pretty pointless. You are never going to convince other people to like Discourse more than mailing lists, and they are never going to convince you the other direction. -Dan On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:35 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Here is an interesting discussion on

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Here is an interesting discussion on "threaded discussions": https://meta.discourse.org/t/threaded-discussion-is-ultimately-too-complex-to-survive-on-the-public-internet/63172 I personally don't like them. As the threads increase the discussion becomes hard to follow... On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 11:01, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with mail from > mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a misconfiguration. > I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail - and I don't want to use >

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > The other major non-Linux operating systems do. Both Microsoft Windows > and Apple macOS ship with active firewalls by default. The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree with any assessment that Fedora Workstation

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 12:00 -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with > mail from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a > misconfiguration. I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail > - and I don't want to use

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Iñaki Ucar píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 16:17 +0200: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:20, wrote: > > The main competitor of Fedora Workstation is Ubuntu. Ubuntu ships > > without a firewall enabled and nobody considers this a critical > > vulnerability. Now: why is that...? > > 1. Ubuntu Server ships

Re: New release of Mock (fixes and subscription-manager support)

2019-08-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 10:20, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Hi, > I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes > see: > https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18 > I just submitted packages to Bodhi. > > I would like to point two

[EPEL-devel] Re: New release of Mock (fixes and subscription-manager support)

2019-08-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 10:20, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Hi, > I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes > see: > https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18 > I just submitted packages to Bodhi. > > I would like to point two

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 10:14 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote: > On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote: > > > Any new Wifi connection could be identified by their SSID, so it > could > still be secure by default and ask for that specific connection to > be > opened because you trust them. As I

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
I never said they were. What I said was expecting and requiring Discourse to 100% replicate everything a mailing list does isn't going to happen and shouldn't be a requirement. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM John Harris wrote: > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with mail from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a misconfiguration. I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail - and I don't want to use an NNTP gateway, I want to use Discourse. Why is that so hard to

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Minimization Team Meeting

2019-08-27 Thread asamalik
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Minimization Team Meeting on 2019-08-28 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 GMT At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Fedora Minimization Team Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9598/

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 15:17, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > Windows shows a pop-up. To be fair, I've just checked and Windows 10 doesn't show a pop-up; better than that: when you (enter the password and) hit "connect", it asks there whether it's a private network and you want to share resources, yes or

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I understand there isn't going to be 100% feature parity, but it should be > good enough - and if it isn't we should be working with the Discourse > people to improve it rather than just using it as an excuse to not moving >

[389-devel] please review: PR 50569 - Fix assert in idl_new.c

2019-08-27 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/pull-request/50569 -- 389 Directory Server Development Team ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to 389-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Using mail, I have to access the archives to read the full thread. This is just due to your configuration. You could easily either save the mailing list to your mailbox, or use an NNTP gateway. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity

[EPEL-devel] Re: Modularity Policy Discussion for EPEL 8.1

2019-08-27 Thread Pat Riehecky
On 8/26/19 3:33 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 01:56:09PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: So, I see the following options for how to handle default streams in RHEL 8 Option 1: We disallow assigning default streams at all within EPEL 8. This will protect us against a future

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:14:20 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote: > On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:35:08 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote: > > > >> On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-08-27 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > > that the package should

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Markus Larsson
On 27 August 2019 16:29:28 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: >Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. My point is I don't like using >email >for forum discussions. The only reason I'm using it here is that I'm >being >forced to because "Development Discussions", "KDE Discussions" and >"Packaging

[Bug 1283764] Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/File/Tail.pm line 391

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1283764 --- Comment #15 from Tom "spot" Callaway --- Based on the total lack of upstream activity, it may never be fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 27 August 2019 at 03:38, John Harris wrote: > On Monday, August 26, 2019 4:54:09 AM MST Markus Larsson wrote: > > It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to this > > list is that discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent. Which I'd consider a

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. My point is I don't like using email for forum discussions. The only reason I'm using it here is that I'm being forced to because "Development Discussions", "KDE Discussions" and "Packaging Discussions" aren't available on the Discourse Fedora instance. As I

[EPEL-devel] New release of Mock (fixes and subscription-manager support)

2019-08-27 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Hi, I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes see: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18 I just submitted packages to Bodhi. I would like to point two things here: 1) It should fixes all those issues you reported in past

New release of Mock (fixes and subscription-manager support)

2019-08-27 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Hi, I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes see: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18 I just submitted packages to Bodhi. I would like to point two things here: 1) It should fixes all those issues you reported in past

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:20, wrote: > > The main competitor of Fedora Workstation is Ubuntu. Ubuntu ships without a > firewall enabled and nobody considers this a critical vulnerability. Now: why > is that...? 1. Ubuntu Server ships without a firewall enabled. Do you think that's a good

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Gerald B. Cox
I would assume you would just use mailing list mode and address additional recipients. To receive an expert reply I would suggest you ask the question here: https://meta.discourse.org/c/support On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I'm

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Marcano
On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote: On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:35:08 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote: On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar wrote: There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as easy as asking the

Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

2019-08-27 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:06:31 AM MST Ryan Walklin wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris > > > > > > > That port numbers are now "technical details" is fairly concerning, and I > > > > can't imagine why you think users shouldn't be able to configure their > >

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