Re: epel-8-{x86_64,ppc64le,aarch64} chroots enabled in copr

2019-09-26 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Thursday, September 26, 2019 6:26:33 AM CEST Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:32:58 AM CEST Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 17:32, Omair Majid wrote: > > > But I know lttng-ust-devel exists in RHEL 8. It was also built by CentOS > > > 8 here: http

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Hannes Frederic Sowa

2019-09-26 Thread Hannes Frederic Sowa
Hello, On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, at 13:28, Jiri Hladky wrote: > I'm trying to contact Hannes Frederic Sowa, maintainer of datamash package: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/user/stressinduktion > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/datamash > > I have started the nonresponsive maintainer process due

Re: MPFR 4

2019-09-26 Thread James Paul Turner
I second this notion. As I recall, the only thing in the way of the MPFR 4 update was a circular dependency on the libmpc package I maintain, and allowing the userbase to catch up to the API change. It's been a while now, and it would be nice to get this change rolling. -- James Paul Turner Dep

Question about package module development

2019-09-26 Thread Coty Sutherland
Hi all, I'm working on (learning modularity) and developing a module for my package and created a not-so-great (super long) branch name in the dist-git rpm and module repo before I realized that it would be the stream's name too. Also, it seems that the incomplete module was picked up and included

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Christopher writes: > I just don't see this proposed workflow as solving the biggest > problems that packagers face. For me, I think the biggest problem that > packagers (particularly newer packagers) face is discovery of all the > services involved in the packaging workflow, and the need to visi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/09/2019 16:07] : > > When we work on upstream projects, I think it's pretty standard now to always > go > via PRs, even for your own branch. FWIW, this workflow makes sense for one that has a community but it sounds very strange to do this on a project on which you are th

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Randy Barlow writes: > This suggestion gives a nice clean place to write the bodhi update > description, right in git. The commit messages can remain the way they > are today: authored for the audience of spec file contributors. > > We could also support special syntax in the tag message to allow

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:46, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Allow packagers to have a clone of the upstraem git repo > > - What about the upstream projects that still only publish a tarball at > release? What about upstream

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Daniel P. Berrangé writes: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > For packages I maintain, my preference is to touch dist-git as little > as possible. Ideally I would never touch dist-git at all & rather wish > it didn't exist at all in its current form of spec+

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 22:06, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "C" == Christopher writes: C> With version-controlled package sources, changelogs in SPEC seem so C> obsolete to me. They are already problematic today when they conflict C> due to changes in multiple branches. It's important to note that the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji If we go this way, there must be a way to disable this or to dictate what side tag this needs to be built in. I remember that during the Python 3.8 rebuilds in the side ta

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 21:47, Randy Barlow wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 19:05 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: The tag also provides a nice place to write release notes for the update. I suppose you could also add support for some sort of text tag inside commits (like when you mark a commit as fixing an issue

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 22:37, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: Note that git-pull-requests now support pagure. The tool takes care of creating the fork, pushing the local changes and opening the PR: https://github.com/Mergifyio/git-pull-request Will definitively test this soon, thanks! If it works, we shoul

Self Introduction: Brian Sipos

2019-09-26 Thread Brian Sipos
Hello all, I've been working with RHEL and CentOS packages since about 2011, but mostly in the domain of private Yum repositories. I've done some work in the past with the SUSE Build Service also. I'm familiar with Redhat/Fedora packaging guidelines but not with Fedora-specific development tooling.

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 15:49 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:40:49PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écr

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 20:55 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On 26-09-2019 20:47, Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 09/26/2019 11:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 11:20 -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > > > > On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > We are cur

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 20:51 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > OTOH we also want F31 to work with current hardware when it ships; > and llvm is kinda special in this regard, its main use in Fedora > is inside the graphics stack and mesa needs llvm9 to support the > AMD Radeon 5700 series cards which

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "C" == Christopher writes: C> With version-controlled package sources, changelogs in SPEC seem so C> obsolete to me. They are already problematic today when they conflict C> due to changes in multiple branches. It's important to note that the RPM changelog is rather a different thing from

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built > > in koji > > ○ Every build in koji results automatically in an update in bodhi > > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > work > where I don'

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 19:05 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > The tag also provides a nice place to write release notes for the > update. I suppose you could also add support for some sort of text > tag > inside commits (like when you mark a commit as fixing an issue in > Git{Lab,Hub} and look at the co

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > > work > > where I don't want to build it (specfile cleanup, patches, > > configuration > > changes, etc.).

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > work > where I don't want to build it (specfile cleanup, patches, > configuration > changes, etc.). I want a build that goes to users be explicit. > > A better model, in my

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi Tom, On 26-09-2019 20:47, Tom Stellard wrote: On 09/26/2019 11:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 11:20 -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release cycle. The updates policy fo

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 26-09-2019 20:24, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 11:20 -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release cycle. The updates policy for this phase - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upd

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 08:58 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > I'm also not clear on where the .spec files and tests would live if > you > are using a fork of the upstream. We still need dist-git to store > those, > even if everything that touches them is a tool other than vim. Or > maybe > I missed som

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Candidate Beta-1.1 Available Now!

2019-09-26 Thread Steven Munroe
Thanks! On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:31 AM Adrian Reber wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:34:11AM -0500, Steven Munroe wrote: > > Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:38:45 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote > > > > >> Can you now try: > > >> > > >> curl -v > > ' > https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-second

[Bug 1756098] [RFE] perl-strictures build for epel8

2019-09-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756098 Emmanuel Seyman changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1744709 Referenced Bugs: https://

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Tom Stellard
On 09/26/2019 11:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 11:20 -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: >> On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release >>> cycle. The updates policy for this phase - >>> https://fedoraproject.

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:08:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:46 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > > Ah right, that makes a lot of sense. > > > > I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building > > that, and presenting the packager with a easy

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:48 AM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > ○ Pull-requests are automatically tested > > ○ Every commit to dist-g

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 01:22:03PM -0400, Robert Marcano via devel wrote: > On 9/26/19 12:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 11:20 -0700, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release > > cycle. The updates policy for this phase - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release - > >

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 20:13 +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Well, we have updated LLVM to next major version even before > mid-cycle. I didn't check exactly when this happened before, but note there is a significant difference between different parts of the cycle. There are different rules for the p

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Tom Stellard
On 09/26/2019 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release > cycle. The updates policy for this phase - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release - > says: > > "From this point onwards maintainers MUST[1]: > >

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : >> > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: >> > >> > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests >> >> IMHO Hav

Re: Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Well, we have updated LLVM to next major version even before mid-cycle. Since it is important for graphics stack. Compatibility package was always created. On the other hand, it requires proper coordination with other package maintainers. tl;dr I think it is fine to do rebase before F31 Final, but

Major update to LLVM appearing in F31 without any communication, appears to violate update policy

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
We are currently in the "Beta to Pre Release" phase of the release cycle. The updates policy for this phase - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release - says: "From this point onwards maintainers MUST[1]: Avoid Major version updates, ABI breakage or API changes if at

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:33 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora but the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robbie Harwood
Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > ○ Pull-requests are automatically tested > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji > ○ Every build in ko

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robert Marcano via devel
On 9/26/19 12:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: ○ Every cha

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Per Bothner
* Unclear work- On 9/26/19 7:07 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: When we work on upstream projects, I think it's pretty standard now to always go via PRs, even for your own branch. So that tests are run, so that other member of the community can see, comment, review the change. What is so differen

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:46:32PM +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I > > > hear that > > > and that

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 9:07 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: What is so different in Fedora that we cannot move to this model? Is it a tooling issue? Is it something else? As others have already stated that may work in projects with tens, hundreds, or thousands of contributors, but most of Fedora packages ar

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 10:28 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Would this change if the PR was automatically tested for you without you having to do anything? I always run local mock builds prior to commits. Maybe not everyone likes to do this and wants Koji to do it for them, but I prefer local mock builds.

Logs from Open NeuroFedora team meeting at 1500 UTC on Thursday, 26th September.

2019-09-26 Thread Aniket Pradhan
Hello everyone! The logs for the NeuroFedora team meeting on 26th September are linked below: - HTML Logs: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-26/neurofedora.2019-09-26-15.01.log.html - HTML Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-26/neurofedora.2

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:46 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > Ah right, that makes a lot of sense. > > I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building > that, and presenting the packager with a easy-to-review PR that you just > click "merge" on instead of pointing the specfi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 9/26/19 11:14 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >>> wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, D

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: [snip] > Allow packagers to have a clone of the upstraem git repo, and use the > pull-requests and run Fedora CI testing against the Fedora branch of > the upstream repo instead of against dist-git. > > In this way, maintaining

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:14:59PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Se

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Candidate Beta-1.1 Available Now!

2019-09-26 Thread Adrian Reber
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:34:11AM -0500, Steven Munroe wrote: > Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:38:45 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote > > >> Can you now try: > >> > >> curl -v > 'https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/31/Everything/ppc64le/os/' > > Attached file curlv.homer54.txt

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:46:32PM +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I hear > > that > > and that may mean that we never go this way. I'm honestly fine with that :) > > I

Re: Proposal to use repo files in Anaconda environment

2019-09-26 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:25:49PM +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 10:21 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 03:09:01PM +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: [snip] > > With an updates.img solution like you are describing here is there > > anything > > to

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > Instead I pre

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26.09.2019 15:10, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > What makes it a headache? What can we do to not have this be a terrible > headache? Can we fix/improve the tooling? I'm not going to log in into web, create a new pr, then merge it. This is a terrible idea. Do not change current workflow. -- Since

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26.09.2019 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests No way! This is a terrible idea. > ○ Every build in koji results automatically in an update in bodhi Not good too. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) _

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:50 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > > branch wi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:16:46PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji > > I don't think this is wise. On the one hand, it will create even more > workload in koji, and on the other hand, running "fedpkg build" for > things I

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > > br

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests I like this idea, however as other has pointed out, it needs to be much smoother experience than now. See for example this RFE: number 3) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate > > pa

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I hear > that > and that may mean that we never go this way. I'm honestly fine with that :) > I do want to see why that is a show-stopper and if we can find ways to not

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate > patches for the Fedora RPM, at the same time updating the patch file list > in t

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:07:59PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 08:47:24AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of > > > this > > > workflow tomo

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Candidate Beta-1.1 Available Now!

2019-09-26 Thread Steven Munroe
Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:38:45 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote >> Can you now try: >> >> curl -v 'https://download-ib01.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/31/Everything/ppc64le/os/' Attached file curlv.homer54.txt >> (Note that that mirror has a ipv6 address, so if you have a routable >> ipv

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:24:29PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future v

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager > > workflow. > > This discussion was triggered by the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:32 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, Alright. I don't often reply to discussion threads like this, but here we go. > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization t

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:56 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:38:45AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pie

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 08:47:24AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of > > this > > workflow tomorrow, it'll be a smooth, slow and long transition. My question > > is > > whe

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/09/2019 à 15:10, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : >>> Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: >>> >>> ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-re

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:38:45AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > > Here is what the vision we came to and

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 26. 09. 19 v 11:36 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): - We need to work on the change logs in the spec files, as otherwise pull-requests are going to conflict more often than not +1 Thou, I would love to have general solution. Not just Fedora-centric. Something which will respect use-case of

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:40:49PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we wo

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of this workflow tomorrow, it'll be a smooth, slow and long transition. My question is whether this is a place where we want to go or can we come up with a different/better one?:)

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:14:38AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:02, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git i

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 01:15:03PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every change

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests IMH

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:01:25 CEST Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > > IMHO Have to stay optional, makin

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this ma

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:02, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this mandatory bei

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this ma

Fedora-31-20190926.n.0 compose check report

2019-09-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 5/152 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-31-20190925.n.0): ID: 458642 Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_lvmthin@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/458642 ID: 458654 Test: x86_64 universal i

Fedora 31 compose report: 20190926.n.0 changes

2019-09-26 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-31-20190925.n.0 NEW: Fedora-31-20190926.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 13 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 35 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 83.57 MiB Size of dropped packages:7.95 MiB

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests IMHO Have to stay optional, making this mandatory being a terrible headache. RFemi ___

Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Good Morning Everyone, At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives are happening around packaging in Fedora but there is no real shared vision on what we want the packager UX/workflow t

Re: Proposal to use repo files in Anaconda environment

2019-09-26 Thread jkonecny
On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 10:21 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 03:09:01PM +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > We (the Anaconda installer team) want to solve multiple problems by > > one > > solution and we want > > > > *YOUR FEEDBACK!* > > > > > > I

Re: new non-responsive maintainer policy

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:59:37AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:35 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > > > > The process is streamlined to require fewer steps from the reporter > > and to provide quicker access to the package. > > FESCo takes

Re: new non-responsive maintainer policy

2019-09-26 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:35 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > The process is streamlined to require fewer steps from the reporter > and to provide quicker access to the package. > FESCo takes care of the weekly reminders through the bug on its tracker. > It is possibl

new non-responsive maintainer policy

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
A new non-responsive maintainer policy has been approved [1]. This announcement is a bit late because it took a while to update the documentation and add all the necessary templates in bugzilla. The new policy is at [2] (diff [3]). tl;dr: When a maintainer is not responding to bug reports, to sta

Unresponsive maintainer: Hannes Frederic Sowa

2019-09-26 Thread Jiri Hladky
Hi Fedora, I'm trying to contact Hannes Frederic Sowa, maintainer of datamash package: https://src.fedoraproject.org/user/stressinduktion https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/datamash I have started the nonresponsive maintainer process due to lack of contact through bugzilla mail: https://bugzilla

Re: HEADS-UP: Asciidoctor 2.0.10

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 12:59, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 26. 09. 19 v 12:19 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 26. 09. 19 12:05, Vít Ondruch wrote: Arguably, you should s/--whatrequires/--whatdepends/ Why? Because weak dependencies are depednecies as well? Right, when trying to figure out if a new version b

Re: HEADS-UP: Asciidoctor 2.0.10

2019-09-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 09. 19 v 12:19 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > On 26. 09. 19 12:05, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Arguably, you should s/--whatrequires/--whatdepends/ > > Why? > Because weak dependencies are depednecies as well? Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fe

Re: HEADS-UP: Asciidoctor 2.0.10

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 12:05, Vít Ondruch wrote: Arguably, you should s/--whatrequires/--whatdepends/ Why? -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: HEADS-UP: Asciidoctor 2.0.10

2019-09-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25. 09. 19 v 17:21 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > On 25. 09. 19 17:10, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> dnf repoquery -q --qf '%{name}' --archlist=src --releasever=rawhide \ >> --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=rawhide-source \ >> --whatrequires asciidoctor --whatrequires rubygem-asciidoctor > > Whe

Re: Fedora 32 Self-Contained Change proposal: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation

2019-09-26 Thread Ryan Walklin
I have found thermald unreliable on my Thinkpad X1 Yoga G4 (same mainboard as the X1 Carbon 7) with an i7-8665U. The laptop is unable to cTDP up to 25W and throttles at 80 degrees rather than 95 degrees as it does in Windows, even after extracting the ACPI tables with dptfxtract as per the instr

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