Re: Introducing Square 1

2019-11-19 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 28. 10. 19 v 20:59 Troy Dawson napsal(a): > [3] - The core buildroot is the packages in @buildsys-build, and > everything needed to build those packages. [4] - self-hosting is the ability to build all the packages on themselves. Why? Why, this needs to be self-hosting? Do we really ne

[modularity] Meeting Minutes Nov. 12, 2019

2019-11-19 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11-12-15.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11-12-15.01.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11

[modularity} meeting for Nov. 19, 2019 canceled

2019-11-19 Thread Langdon White
Most of the primary team members are unavailable today so we are canceling the meeting. Join us next week instead! langdon ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-15, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > Of course in practice the combinatorial behavior only happens within the > subsets of software that depend on each other, but, nevertheless, it > seems to me that this means that we have to control and limit the number > of interdependent mod

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-15, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 17:38 Petr Pisar wrote: >> On 2019-11-15, Daniel P Berrang=C3=A9 wrote: >> > >> > Consider if we move the virtualization stack (QEMU & Libvirt) into a >> > module with two streams, one libvirt 5.8.0 and one libvirt 6.1.0. >> > >> > Now

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-16, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Petr Pisar wrote: >> With your proposal Bugzilla packager would have to package Bugzilla >> twice: as a normal package for default Perl 5.26 and as a module for Perl >> 5.30. Then a user would have hard time to select the right combinations of >> Perl and Bugzi

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Yes, but what you have described is basically to create 2 streams of perl-Sys-Virt module. Which is probably not what normal people want. Creating module for one package is the worst idea ever. Sure, bundling perl-Sys-Virt into the libvirt module would solve the problem, but then what's the point

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-11-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-18, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Petr Pisar wrote: >> In your example the the packager maintains 4 versions (in the sense of >> dist-git branches and builds submitted to Koji) of the software >> (FXX fish 3, FXX+1 fish 4, stream 3 fish 3, stream 4 fish 4). >> >> That's exactly what you as a p

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-11-19, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Yes, but what you have described is basically to create 2 streams of > perl-Sys-Virt module. Which is probably not what normal people want. Having two different perl-Sys-Virt packages was requesed by Daniel. That was not my choice. > Creating module for one

Re: Python 2 exodus is happening now

2019-11-19 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 02:02 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > system-config-rootpassword Fixed to use python3 in system-config-rootpassword-1.99.6-21.fc32, please do not retire. -- Tomáš Mráz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. T

Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?

2019-11-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 7:24 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > As Petr Pisar noted earlier, default streams are designed to deliver the > > same user experience as ursine packages, therefore there is no *direct* > > advantage or disadvantage of them over ursine packages, for F

Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?

2019-11-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:23 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 4:59 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I've asked whether it wouldn't be in fact much easier to keep the default > > versions of our packages non-modular. > > > > Others have said they are interested in this as well. A h

Orphaning my packages

2019-11-19 Thread Roman Mohr
Hi, I take [1] as the opportunity to orphan the following packages: rpms/aspectjweaver rpms/assertj-core rpms/hystrix rpms/memoryfilesystem rpms/rxjava rpms/archaius I don't use these projects anymore, and I don't have time to follow them. Best Regards, Roman [1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it was >> functionally impossible to discover how to package Java stuff. In a >> lifetime (and a job) ago, I was much more engaged in the Java >

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 09:17, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: > > >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it was > >> functionally impossible to discover how to package Java stuff. In a

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:54 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 09:17, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:08:02 -0800, you wrote: > > > > >On 11/18/19 7:29 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > >> I can't speak for everyone, but at least my experience was that it was

Re: Orphaning my packages

2019-11-19 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno mar 19 nov 2019 alle ore 15:20 Roman Mohr ha scritto: > Hi, > > I take [1] as the opportunity to orphan the following packages: > > rpms/aspectjweaver > rpms/assertj-core > rpms/hystrix > rpms/memoryfilesystem > rpms/rxjava > rpms/archaius > I need to check with oVirt infra team, but

Re: Orphaning my packages

2019-11-19 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno mar 19 nov 2019 alle ore 16:19 Sandro Bonazzola < sbona...@redhat.com> ha scritto: > > > Il giorno mar 19 nov 2019 alle ore 15:20 Roman Mohr > ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> I take [1] as the opportunity to orphan the following packages: >> >> rpms/aspectjweaver >> rpms/assertj-core >> rpm

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi, Fabio, On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Hi everybody, > > You're probably aware that the Stewardship SIG has been picking up > some (±230) Java packages to keep them from getting removed from > fedora, and to try to keep them maintained. Since the fraction of > out-o

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Petr Pisar wrote: > That's nice theory that will never come true becaue it would require to > make all Perl code parallel-installable. And Perl code is not only > libraries as in the Python language. That's also myriad of Perl scripts > that you want to have in PATH. But the scripts do not need to

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:12 PM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > Hi, Fabio, > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> You're probably aware that the Stewardship SIG has been picking up >> some (±230) Java packages to keep them from getting removed from >>

Re: libdav1d SONAME bump

2019-11-19 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Friday, 18 October 2019 22:44:24 CET you wrote: > On Friday, 11 October 2019 16:10:55 CEST you wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Dav1d 0.5.0 was published today and brings a SONAME bump from libdav1d.so. > > 2.0.0 to libdav1d.so.3.0.0. > > I will be updating it next week on F31/32, consumers of these l

Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Raphael Groner
… > But LXDE and nm-applet are GTK, LXQt and nm-tray are Qt. Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the package is already removed because it never worked as it should. There's indeed not much sense to have another tray icon when NetworkManager itself places anyways (by enfo

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-19 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 23:38 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Samalik wrote: > > 1/ A history chart for base images [2] is now being generated — includes > > data since 25 September. It's a bit rough initial implementation, but it's > > there! > > Almost 2 months of work to save… 0.5%! That does n

Not shipping 3 types of bytecode in python3-libs?

2019-11-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 19. 11. 19 20:20, Adam Jackson wrote: In the spirit of positivity and collaboration, I spent a few minutes looking at the results given to try to find some easy wins. Here's what I found: python3-libs ships multiple copies of its pyc files, corresponding to different optimization levels. I do

[Test-Announce] Fedora 32 Rawhide 20191119.n.2 nightly compose nominated for testing

2019-11-19 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 32 Rawhide 20191119.n.2. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Not shipping 3 types of bytecode in python3-libs?

2019-11-19 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 19. 11. 19 20:20, Adam Jackson wrote: > > In the spirit of positivity and collaboration, I spent a few minutes > > looking at the results given to try to find some easy wins. Here's what > > I found: > > > > python3-libs ships multiple cop

Re: Not shipping 3 types of bytecode in python3-libs?

2019-11-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 19. 11. 19 21:55, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 19. 11. 19 20:20, Adam Jackson wrote: In the spirit of positivity and collaboration, I spent a few minutes looking at the results given to try to find some easy wins. Here's what I found: pytho

Re: Not shipping 3 types of bytecode in python3-libs?

2019-11-19 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 22:30 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 19. 11. 19 21:55, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:32 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> On 19. 11. 19 20:20, Adam Jackson wrote: > >>> In the spirit of positivity and collaboration, I spent a few minutes > >>> looking at t

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Mat Booth
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 11:17, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > I must disagree. That it "works" in RHEL doesn't mean that it should be done > in Fedora. The current situation in Fedora, where maven and ant have been > "moved" to modules has screwed over the Eclipse packagers, for example, and > more are

Re: Introducing Square 1

2019-11-19 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, October 28, 2019 12:59:07 PM MST Troy Dawson wrote: > Smoother initial creation of RHEL 9.[5] I hope this is already clear, but what is good for RHEL is not necessarily good for Fedora. If it would do good here too, that's excellent. If not, that will be something that needs to get don

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-11-19 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:42:31 AM MST Petr Pisar wrote: > Manual work. Random commiters skipping them. If your goal is to make it so that "Random commiters" are packagers, that's going to fall flat very quickly - as they'll just throw one version of the package in, never think about it ag

Re: Minimization Objective report

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: > That's about 44M worth of potential savings out of a 204M base image, a > bit over 20%. I'll happily file proper bug reports for these somewhere > if we want, but it took me like 30 minutes to look into this. If you're > not even willing to put in _that_ little effort, then fo

Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Raphael Groner wrote: > Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the package is > already removed because it never worked as it should. There's indeed not > much sense to have another tray icon when NetworkManager itself places > anyways (by enforced dependencies) its own icon asi

Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2019-11-20 at 02:56 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Raphael Groner wrote: > > Right, we've planned to use nm-tray for the LXQt spin. But the > > package is > > already removed because it never worked as it should. There's > > indeed not > > much sense to have another tray icon when NetworkMana

Re: Orphaning nm-tray

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sérgio Basto wrote: > I use nm-applet instead plasma-nm in my kde and nm-applet just enforce > libgobject , libgtk3 , libmm-glib, libpango, libpangocairo and > nm-connection-editor [1] > > [1] > dnf repoquery --requires network-manager-applet We were not talking about things required by network-m

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > I see that Mikolaj has a vision how it supposed to work. And I think he > spent quite some time designing the workflow which would fit this vision, > thus it is worth to listen to it with an open mind. > > @Mikolaj, can you document the setup for java toolchain somewhe

undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some users reported Blender which I maintain failed to start due to this issue: blender: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libOpenColorIO.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4YAML6detail9node_data12empty_scalarB5cxx11E Accordingly, the problem is caused by OpenColorIO from which Blender depends. A bug is a

Re: undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:27 PM Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Some users reported Blender which I maintain failed to start due to this > issue: > > blender: symbol lookup error: /lib64/libOpenColorIO.so.1: undefined symbol: > _ZN4YAML6detail9node_data12empty_scalarB5cxx11E > > > > Accordingly, the

Re: undefined symbol from OpenColorIO prevents Blender from running

2019-11-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 2019-11-19 7:49 p.m., Richard Shaw wrote: I'm all for fixing bugs quickly but it was only assigned to OCIO in BZ on 11/20 (UTC) and it's still November 19th for me :) Same for me at the time writing. =) Thank for the quick reply. It would hopefully be fixed by a simple rebuild which any

Re: Review request: selenium-geckodriver

2019-11-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello Thomas, I will take your review in exchange of mine below: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1771173 Would you update yours following the feedback? -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer ___ devel mail

Paul Grosu

2019-11-19 Thread Paul Grosu
Hello Fedora Development Community, I work at Northeastern University as a researcher in the Gene Cooperman Lab, and will be supporting the DMTCP package ( https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/dmtcp) and DMTCP-devel ( https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/dmtcp-devel). We are about to releas

Re: Paul Grosu

2019-11-19 Thread Vascom
You need to add your public ssh key at FAS page https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts And login via ssh. Read all information on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers ср, 20 нояб. 2019 г. в 09:54, Paul Grosu : > > Hello Fedora Development Community, > >

Re: Paul Grosu

2019-11-19 Thread Paul Grosu
Hi Vascom, Thank you for the quick reply. I already added the SSH public key, but when I try to ssh with my private key and enter the username pgrosu at the (login:) it says "No supported authentication methods available". Does it mean I should wait a day for it to go through, or should I contac

corsepiu pushed to perl-HTTP-Entity-Parser (f30). "Update to 0.22."

2019-11-19 Thread notifications
Notification time stamped 2019-11-20 07:19:28 UTC From 8c9e3505ec84293aaaf1fb43db5b4893fcb521c2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Ralf Corsépius Date: Nov 20 2019 05:48:46 + Subject: Update to 0.22. --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index f380dc3..f19a402 100644 --- a/.gitignore +++ b/

Re: Paul Grosu

2019-11-19 Thread Vascom
pgrosu - is your FAS name? Are you in packager group? ср, 20 нояб. 2019 г. в 10:20, Paul Grosu : > > Hi Vascom, > > Thank you for the quick reply. I already added the SSH public key, but when > I try to ssh with my private key and enter the username pgrosu at the > (login:) it says "No supporte