Fwd: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

2020-03-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
Forwarding to devel@ while the message is sitting in devel-announce@ moderation queue - the idea of the heads-up is to make people aware before, not after the fact afterall... - Panu - Forwarded Message Subject: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide Date: Tue,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Clement Verna
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 22:55, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:

Re: Does anyone/thing care about the kernel inside the boot.iso rootfs?

2020-03-30 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 03:02:24PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 09:34:24AM -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > We've noticed that there is a kernel inside the install.img of the > > boot.iso -- it isn't used for booting, and as far as I can tell it's > > just taking up extra spac

Re: Release rpkg-1.60

2020-03-30 Thread Ondrej Nosek
yes, I missed correcting the supported list. On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:56 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 12:21, Ondrej Nosek wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and > bugfixes. > > Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the s

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to us > was that Gitlab was the decision to make. The next step in getting there is > what we are engaging in now to get thoughts and suggestions and expect > several th

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:55 PM Till Maas wrote: > > Please be more specific. Are these the requirements from the discussion > different ones? The discussion had 47 requirements, 1 and 2 were > challenged and 47 mentioned as nice-to-have. Who submitted them? I guess > it was Ben. > Yes, I sent Aoi

Re : kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Thanks to the person who suggested to change password in the web interface (at least once, rather than changing by forgotten password). I did the trick and now kinit works!___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:28:59AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > No singular Forge satisfied every single User Story. Any feature gaps will > land on the Backlog of Gitlab for voting and prioritisation as their > Engineering teams see fit. this sounds very disturbing. Please clarify this. Fe

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Mon,

Re: Odd build failure on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 29/03/20 11:31 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Hello team, Can someone investigate the failure on Fedora 32 YafaRay? It seems related to boost [2]. It's a GCC bug: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94190 It's fixed in this GCC update which has been submitted for testing: https:

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 30/03/20 11:34 -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ extensions for PHP. Its worked well for a couple years. I upgraded to F32 beta and now when compiling a

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 30/03/20 20:55 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 07:50:48PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I > should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It al

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 13:47 -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > Thank you for looking into this for me. Just to be clear, the proper > place to fix this is in the php-cpp project because it is using > std::runtime_exception without including . Is that > correct? Aaaand I just tried it and it works

Re: kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:36:46PM +0300, Benson Muite wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > > I am trying to follow instructions at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers > > > > But when I do: > > [paul@localhost ~]

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Neal Gompa" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Alex Scheel" , "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:30:20 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > As for Gitea, we're basically at parity

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Scott Talbert [30/03/2020 14:38] : > > Because the maintainer (normunds) was non-responsive. I don't see any > commits from you?? Sorry, I was looking at perl-Data-Validate-Type, not at perl-Data-Validate-Domain. I've taken the package. Emmanuel ___

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 20:55 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > So, from the offlist posted preprocessed source, seems the TU > includes the > following libstdc++ headers > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > and then uses std::runtime_exception. That one

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 08:10:30PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 18:35, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:13:03PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > I'm afraid that this won't be good enough. Other (Fedora) builds will be > > > submitted with lower prio as well. Fo

Re: kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Benson Muite
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > I am trying to follow instructions at: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers > > But when I do: > [paul@localhost ~]$ kinit pa...@fedoraproject.org > I get: > Password for pa...@fedoraproject.or

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 15:30:20 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: I barely remember plague (it was going away when I started as a packager). Plague was free software, but the build system for Fedora Core was not. That and Plague were both replaced with Koji in 2007. It was a great day, indeed. Thank

kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I am trying to follow instructions at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers But when I do: [paul@localhost ~]$ kinit pa...@fedoraproject.org I get: Password for pa...@fedoraproject.org: kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials [paul@localhost ~

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 14:42:33 -0400, > Alex Scheel wrote: > > > >Have you tried to use Pagure as a development based git forge? And not > >just as a dist-git hosting location? It needs a lot of help! More than the > >current resource

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 14:42:33 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: Have you tried to use Pagure as a development based git forge? And not just as a dist-git hosting location? It needs a lot of help! More than the current resources provide. I've used the PR features a bit in a dist-git context. I tri

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Martin Kolman" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:05:54 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > And to be clear: there's a difference between a Fedor

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Kolman
- Original Message - > From: "Alex Scheel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:42:33 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bruno Wolff II

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 17:41 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > > we announced

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 07:50:48PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I > > should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ > > extensions for PHP

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Bruno Wolff III" > To: "Leigh Griffin" > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:08:21 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 17:20:04 +0100, > Leigh Gr

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
On 3/30/20 11:38 AM, Scott Talbert wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > >> * Miro Hrončok [30/03/2020 20:24] : >>> >>> perl-Data-Validate-Domain orphan   1 >>> weeks ago >> >> I've maintained this package for years now. Why is it considered it >> o

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Scott Talbert
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Miro Hrončok [30/03/2020 20:24] : perl-Data-Validate-Domain orphan 1 weeks ago I've maintained this package for years now. Why is it considered it orphaned? Because the maintainer (normunds) was non-responsive.

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Andrew Bauer
perl-Net-SFTP-Foreign has been taken! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List G

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [30/03/2020 20:24] : > > perl-Data-Validate-Domain orphan 1 weeks ago I've maintained this package for years now. Why is it considered it orphaned? Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 17:20:04 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM David Kaufmann wrote: We are trying to reduce the total ownership of the team to allow us to provide value on initiatives that are requested of us by our stakeholders. Pagure has value beyond Fedora

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 14:09 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Before jumping into jitsi, I think you should see what I got when I > tried it > using the web app. > > Why does it want access to my youtube?? I've used Jitsi without an account at all for over a year (at least th

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread clime
I thought CPE ("Community Platform Engineering") is a part of the community. But no, because you want to hand over pagure.io to "the Community", so what community is that...People that don't have hardware? It seems that the whole proposal is trying to make src.fp.o and git.centos.org part of a cor

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 18:35, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:13:03PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: I'm afraid that this won't be good enough. Other (Fedora) builds will be submitted with lower prio as well. For example our Python 3.N+1 rebuilds are usually submitted as such, so the wave of 3

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 17:55, David Kaufmann wrote: What I don't understand is, why a decision this big is not taken by FESCo (or Council) and the CentOS Governing Board itself. FESCo cannot actually make anyone do anything. So even if FESCo says: "The dist-git will run on Pagure", CPE can say: "Whatev

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 30.03.20 19:35, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 18:09 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: >> Il giorno sab, 28/03/2020 alle 15.13 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: >>> I will try packaging all Jitsi Meet suite [1] > > Me too, I've been watching that suite of tools and would love to be a

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 03. 20 16:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Please see the newly-updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose for more details[1]. Assume I have the following CI Test in Fedora: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-setuptools/blob/master/f/tests/tests.yml Ye

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I > should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ > extensions for PHP. Its worked well for a couple years. I upgraded to > F32 beta and now

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 18:09 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno sab, 28/03/2020 alle 15.13 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: > > I will try packaging all Jitsi Meet suite [1] Me too, I've been watching that suite of tools and would love to be a little involved as potentially a co-maintainer but d

Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ extensions for PHP. Its worked well for a couple years. I upgraded to F32 beta and now when compiling anything that includes its headers compilation fails a

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:51AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > document: TBD > version: 1 > data: > # A string representing UTC date in ISO 8601 format: -MM-DD[T ]HH:MMZ > # When merging, entries with a newer 'modified' value will override > any earlier values. > # MANDATORY > modifie

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Haley" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Alex Scheel" > Cc: "Omair Majid" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:36:23 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system > JDK in F33 > > On 3/30/20 4:

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Petr Pisar writes: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:56:42AM +0100, clime wrote: > >> You can make a separate namespace for this in dist-git. It doesn't >> need to be a separate branch. That way, you won't be disturbing >> anyone elses space. > > A different name space means a different repository. Th

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 17:47, Jiri Vanek wrote: On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencie

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > If it was up to us only, I recon we'd be looking to switch over to sqlite > > somewhere between 2-4 weeks from the time 4.16 lands in rawhide but our > > schedule is flexibl

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: ...snip... > > No such things needed at this time. The database change is a separate change > and does NOT come bundled with RPM 4.16, we'll only even consider switching > that once 4.16 has had a proper shakedown. ok, great. > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Andrew Haley
On 3/30/20 4:47 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > For one example here, take the long-standing Debian ticket against Dogtag: > > https://www.pagure.io/dogtagpki/issue/3088 > > OpenJDK 11 moved to TLS v1.3, but didn't fully implement the spec: PHA isn't > available. This is a requirement for our particular

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:13:03PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I'm afraid that this won't be good enough. Other (Fedora) builds will be > submitted with lower prio as well. For example our Python 3.N+1 rebuilds are > usually submitted as such, so the wave of 3k packages doesn't block > individu

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Meeting summary --- * #2358 Drop the restriction on tagging for fedora-release (zbyszek, 15:02:45) * AGREED: drop fedora-release and fedora-repos from the secure-boot channel (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:11:41) * #2360 RPM 4.16 and sqlite db changes for Fedora 33 (zbyszek, 15:

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM David Kaufmann wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. > > I haven't expected this situation, so

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno sab, 28/03/2020 alle 15.13 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: > I will try packaging all Jitsi Meet suite [1] Cool!, if you want a beta tester on Fedora, let me know. Thanks -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 31 Workstation) ___ dev

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread David Kaufmann
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. I haven't expected this situation, so I've read up a bit on the whole thing. From the outside it looks t

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 17:41, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The only problem of GitLab is that Fedora - for years - was not able to > package it. I'm not a able to judge where the packaging problem is/was, > any more info? Are we going invest into packaging it? > > Please make us 100% confident we are not goin

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Jiri Vanek" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Miro Hrončok" > , "Deepak Bhole" , "Severin Gehwolf" > , "Omair Majid" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:38:34 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as s

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild >> again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of >> packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so >> build

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:26 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . >> >> == Summary == >> Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. >> >> == Owner == >> * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri V

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:11 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> === Other === >> * Proposal owners: >> ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides >> ** If necessary tune the build environment >> >> * Other developers: >> ** based on selected approach to tune the ma

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . > > == Summary == > Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] > * Email: > * Product: java and java stack >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: === Other === * Proposal owners: ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides ** If necessary tune the build environment * Other developers: ** based on selected approach to tune the main build tools *** at least jpackage-tools and maven will be

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:51AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL [...] > *** When a module stream gets removed from a Fedora release, the > maintainer of the module stream must provide a modulemd document with > Obsoletes or EOL data. >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so build will fail. Maybe several iterations of mass rebuild

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:13 PM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 13:43(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:36 PM Matthias Runge wrote: > On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > For transparency,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-disc...@

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Mark libdb as deprecated

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Libdb_deprecated == Summary == This change should inform maintainers and developers about effort to remove libdb in future. == Owner == * Name: [[User:fjanus|Filip Januš]] * Email: fja...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == We would like to remove libdb

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL == Summary == Fix Fedora upgradability issues when upgrading systems with module streams enabled. == Owner == * Name: [[User:dmach| Daniel Mach]] * Email: dm...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == DNF currently doesn't have suff

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:07 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > >> > integration acro

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > > linked with

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL8 package list

2020-03-30 Thread Troy Dawson
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:52 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 06:11:28PM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 15:59, Mattia Verga wrote: > > > Is there a way to get the package list and their version available in > > > RHEL8? For exampl

Re: multiple definitions build failure on armv7hl only

2020-03-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 20:38:07 -0700 Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 3/4/20 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Test building the latest gdl, I get the following errors only on > > armv7hl: > > > > /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/gdl.dir/basic_op.cpp.o:(.rodata+0x30): > > multiple definition of `typeinfo name

Re: Upgrade tooling

2020-03-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/30/20 3:00 PM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Yes, that is an important hurdle that Fedora generally doesn't encounter at all. Fedora usually waits until the new rpm functionality is released in older versions of Fedora before allo

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* >> > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is >> > not possible to impl

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . == Summary == Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. == Owner == * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] * Email: * Product: java and java stack * Responsible WG: java-sig (java and java-maint) == Detailed Descript

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:15 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < > jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> > >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a > >> more vis

Re: Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:32:54PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-03-30 15:00 UTC' NOTE: DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIM

Re: Fedora 32 Build failures on non-x86 arch - tlog

2020-03-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:16:46 -0400 Justin Stephenson wrote: > Hello, > > I received an email notification that some builds of the 'tlog' > package are failing on aarch64 and ppc64le, with a link provided > below: > > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/tlog?collection=f32 > > However, on

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 3/30/20 2:33 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the change

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 the user stories list does not seem to incl

Fedora 32 Build failures on non-x86 arch - tlog

2020-03-30 Thread Justin Stephenson
Hello, I received an email notification that some builds of the 'tlog' package are failing on aarch64 and ppc64le, with a link provided below: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/tlog?collection=f32 However, on my local system these builds are successful when I run 'fedpkg scratch-build'.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:00 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were designed to meet the needs of Fedorans that we will be forced to give up. I want to s

Re: Upgrade tooling (was: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB)

2020-03-30 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 27. 03. 20 v 8:55 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > In current "offline upgrade" scheme, the upgrade > tools are running on the real system, with udev active. How the "offline upgrade" works under hood? Do I understand correctly that even "offline ugprade" will have problem with upgra

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: > > If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or > > a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the > > change in Fedora. > > I wonder wh

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 3/30/20 12:54 PM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. I've made several attempts to explain this decision. You are ignoring them. Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's a

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:13 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Le dimanche 29 mars 2020 à 23:47 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > > > > As a General User > > > I want to access repos fully over https > > > For environments where SSH is blocked > > > > I would be really curious if the Red Hat I

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a >> more visible and open to the community discussion scenario. >> > >> > For transparency, we have pu

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le dimanche 29 mars 2020 à 23:47 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > > As a General User > > I want to access repos fully over https > > For environments where SSH is blocked > > I would be really curious if the Red Hat Infrastructure Security guys > have changed their opinion on this after four year

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:54 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 29.03.20 um 18:24 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those > just > > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > > proprietary drivers work to begin w

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/3/30 13:43(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iña

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:45:59PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > We done that as a Management team and with our Product Owner among other > stakeholders. We did evaluate the merit of the requirements from a > practicality perspective but we did not question or force our opinion on > the validity of

Re: Upgrade tooling

2020-03-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
> On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > Yes, that is an important hurdle that Fedora generally doesn't > > encounter > > at all. Fedora usually waits until the new rpm functionality is > > released > > in older versions of Fedora before allowing it to be used in > > rawhi

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: I'm more curious what will happen with the ELN branch once the change is merged into Fedora's master. Will the ELN branch be removed? Will the ELN branch be reset to Fedora's master indefinetely and automatically? Or will be stalled and once ELN maintainer n

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