[NO ACTION REQUIRED] ELN Module Enablement

2020-09-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 We wanted to send out a heads-up to let folks know that once Infrastructure Freeze is lifted this week, we will be enabling modular builds for Fedora ELN. Once this happens, `platform:eln` will become available as a target for module builds. For

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:32 pm, Marius Schwarz wrote: as one who had split horizone dns setups, it's not the client who splits, it's the server. It's really the client... or the server running on the client: nss-dns (traditional): split DNS impossible. No way to ever split DNS. dnsmasq,

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:39 pm, Florian Weimer wrote: My understanding is that the DNS request routing in systemd-resolved effectively disables any security mechanisms on the VPN side, and instructs most current browsers to route DNS requests to centralized DNS servers for all requests

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 28/09/2020 15:57, Marius Schwarz wrote: Am 28.09.20 um 13:47 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: DNSSEC support in resolved can be enabled through resolved.conf. Why isn't that the default, if this resolver can do it? Because DNSSEC is a disaster area and if you try and use it on random

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 28.09.20 um 13:47 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > DNSSEC support in resolved can be enabled through resolved.conf. Why isn't that the default, if this resolver can do it? Best regards, Marius ___ devel mailing list --

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:29 am, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:23:47AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: *cannot* enable DNSSEC, where VPN users often expect split DNS, and where we cannot expect users to configure anything manually, systemd-resolved is solving a real

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-28 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:31:59 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > If you want to make -fdebug-types-sections the default you really > should work with the upstream GCC developers to figure out why they > don't want that. I haven't seen that, according to Richard Biener from GCC -fdebug-types-section is

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:28 am, Paul Wouters wrote: This is better thant it was five years ago. I'm glad some things were at least successfully conveyed in the Brno meeting. However, this still leaks queries meant for the LAN or VPN onto the wide internet and is still a privacy and security

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Catanzaro: > If you're running mail servers or VPN servers, you can probably > configure the DNS to your liking, right? Either enable DNSSEC support > in systemd-resolved, or disable systemd-resolved. I'm not too > concerned about this What about end users who just enable a VPN

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020, Michael Catanzaro wrote: If you're running mail servers or VPN servers, you can probably configure the DNS to your liking, right? Either enable DNSSEC support in systemd-resolved, or disable systemd-resolved. I'm not too concerned about this You should be concerned

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, Am 28.09.20 um 13:47 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > I'm not sure what you mean by that. It is true that /etc/resolv.conf > is not able to express split DNS. But it is still in place, with contents > that try to express the actual DNS configuration to the extent possible. as one who

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 09:23:47AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > *cannot* enable DNSSEC, where VPN users often expect split DNS, and > where we cannot expect users to configure anything manually, > systemd-resolved is solving a real problem that nss-dns will never > be able to handle. Can we

Re: paranoid md raid1 -> Btrfs migration tools?

2020-09-28 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 03:07:39PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > 5. you can now use > > rsync --dry-run /mnt/sda1_non_raid /mnt/btrfs_new > > to see if every file on the sda1 side of the mirror matches what was > copied to Btrfs Add --checksum to the rsync invocation. Otherwise, rsync

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: This change is harmful to network security, impacts existing installations depending on DNSSEC security, and leaks private queries for VPN/internal domains to the open internet, and prefers faster non-dnssec answers over dnssec validated

Re: rpkg broke?

2020-09-28 Thread clime
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 14:44, Richard Shaw wrote: > > I haven't seen anything obvious in the mailing list lately so maybe it's just > me? > > $ rpkg > 'Namespace' object has no attribute 'command' Hello, What are versions of rpkg and python3-rpkg in your system? By the way, do you use that

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:44 am, Paul Wouters wrote: My fedora mail server uses DNSSEC based TLSA records to prevent MITM attacks on the STARTTLS layer, which is now completely broken. My IPsec VPN server uses dnssec validation using the specified nameserves in /etc/resolve.conf that now point

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 28/09/2020 14:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: What was the setup you were using? If this is something that we can reliably detect, I think it it would make sense to adjust the scriptlet that enables systemd-resolved to print a hint about needing to set DNSSEC=yes. (Or maybe even set

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-09-28 Thread Antariksh Verma via devel
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Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

2020-09-28 Thread Antariksh Verma via devel
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init 5 does not restart NetworkManager

2020-09-28 Thread qmail
at an init 3 stance, which has NetworkManager active, i start an init 5. when all is said and done, NetworkManager has been deactivated, IE not restarted bec of the settings in NetworkManager.service . So I have to manually restart NetworkManager. Why is this so?

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:57:13AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 9/28/20 6:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Instructions were already posted by Vitaly, so I won't repeat that here. > > I'll just note that the scriptlet in systemd.rpm looks for > > 'Generated by NetworkManager' in

[Bug 1835451] raise ValueError, errmsg # 'File Not Found in bugzilla-submit

2020-09-28 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1835451 --- Comment #2 from Emmanuel Seyman --- In practice, bugzilla-submit hasn't worked against bugzilla 4.4.3+ regardless of the version of python used since the Bugzilla devs added CSRF protection when logging in to Bugzilla via CGI (see bmo

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 28 September 2020 at 15:30, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: [...] > What was the setup you were using? If this is something that we can > reliably detect, I think it it would make sense to adjust the scriptlet > that enables systemd-resolved to print a hint about needing to set

Fedora-IoT-33-20200928.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20200925.0): ID: 679562 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis URL:

[Test-Announce] Fedora 33 IoT Test Day 2020-09-30

2020-09-28 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey, Fedora 33 IoT test day is on 2020-09-30. As Fedora IoT becomes the part of Fedora Editions, to ensure we test the bits properly, we are going to have a test day [0] where we will be focusing on testing the IoT builds and reporting bugs. [0]

Fedora-33-20200928.n.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 2/181 (x86_64) Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-33-20200927.n.0): ID: 679355 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/679355 ID: 679366 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:57:13AM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 9/28/20 6:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >Instructions were already posted by Vitaly, so I won't repeat that here. > >I'll just note that the scriptlet in systemd.rpm looks for > >'Generated by NetworkManager' in

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 01:45:02PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 28/09/2020 12:47, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > >You're mixing a few different things here. We decided to not enable > >DNSSEC in resolved with this change, at least initially. For most > >users, DNSSEC is problematic

Re: paranoid md raid1 -> Btrfs migration tools?

2020-09-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 28/09/2020 09:31, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Roberto Ragusa wrote on Mon, Sep 28, 2020: >>> I could imagine using kpartx to script a solution to (1) above, skipping >>> over the md headers. Some kind of shim may be needed to fool the kernel >>> to see a different UUID for each source volume

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-28 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 14:08:48 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > It is certainly a clever setup and makes sense if your build bottleneck > is sending files around between different machines. But I don't think > this is the generic Fedora packager or developer use case. I agree and I do not propose

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 9/28/20 6:47 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Instructions were already posted by Vitaly, so I won't repeat that here. I'll just note that the scriptlet in systemd.rpm looks for 'Generated by NetworkManager' in /etc/resolv.conf as an indicator that the file is autogenerated. Which is

Fedora 33 compose report: 20200928.n.0 changes

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-33-20200927.n.0 NEW: Fedora-33-20200928.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 33 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 6.54 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 28/09/2020 12:47, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: You're mixing a few different things here. We decided to not enable DNSSEC in resolved with this change, at least initially. For most users, DNSSEC is problematic because various intermediary DNS servers found in hotspots and routers don't

rpkg broke?

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Shaw
I haven't seen anything obvious in the mailing list lately so maybe it's just me? $ rpkg 'Namespace' object has no attribute 'command' Thanks, Richard ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

packages still requiring ncurses

2020-09-28 Thread Dan Horák
Hi, when looking at a recent issue when a change to lorax templates broke composes for ppc64le and s390x I have found that there are packages that explicitly require the ncurses package and I wonder if all of these Requires are correct. Because quite some time ago there was a split so "ncurses"

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-28 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 17:18 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Robbie Harwood: > > Jan Kratochvil writes: > > > So why is Google using it for everything? > > > > If I could eliminate one bad thought pattern in software design it would > > probably be this one. > > > > In brief: you are not

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:44:13AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > > >Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved > > I was just hit by the first bug in systemd-resolved 4 days after I > upgraded to fedora33. I will file a bug report for that, but I wanted > to discuss

Fedora-IoT-34-20200928.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20200921.0): ID: 679170 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis URL:

Fedora-Rawhide-20200928.n.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Xfce raw-xz armhfp Failed openQA tests: 11/181 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200927.n.0): ID: 679030 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/679030 Old failures (same

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200928.n.0 changes

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200927.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200928.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 41 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200928.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-28 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:31:59PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Finally I am interested in your proposal to implement a different way > to reduce the size of DIE trees by eliminating "unused" DIEs. It is > hard to predict what effect that would have without seeing an > implementation (in theory

Re: F34 Change proposal: Debug Info Standardization (from DWZ to -fdebug-types-section) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-09-28 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Jan, On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 11:43 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:35:43 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > Replying since I am mentioned by name in this proposal and it seems to > > argue for removing a feature I am currently working on to make sure it > > works correctly

Fedora-Cloud-32-20200928.0 compose check report

2020-09-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20200927.0): ID: 678981 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL:

Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

2020-09-28 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 28.09.2020 06:44, Paul Wouters wrote: > Unfortunately, with my upgrade to fedora 33 I was unwittingly upgraded > to systemd-resolved. I want to remove it from my system, but I cannot > because it is not even a sub-package of systemd, it is part of the > core systemd package. You can always

Re: Orphaning qjackctl

2020-09-28 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi Fernando, I'm a packager sponsor. I'm happy to take over qjackctl and sponsor Christoph as a co-maintainer to help look after it. Could you please give me ownership of the package? My FAS is: ankursinha. -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) |

Re: paranoid md raid1 -> Btrfs migration tools?

2020-09-28 Thread Dominique Martinet
Roberto Ragusa wrote on Mon, Sep 28, 2020: > >I could imagine using kpartx to script a solution to (1) above, skipping > >over the md headers. Some kind of shim may be needed to fool the kernel > >to see a different UUID for each source volume so they can be mounted > >simultaneously without md.

Re: paranoid md raid1 -> Btrfs migration tools?

2020-09-28 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 2020-09-26 23:31, Daniel Pocock wrote: 1) check for differences between source file sectors on each source drive [...] I could imagine using kpartx to script a solution to (1) above, skipping over the md headers. Some kind of shim may be needed to fool the kernel to see a different UUID

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