Fedora-Cloud-33-20201122.0 compose check report

2020-11-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20201121.0): ID: 726966 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL:

Re: Fedora 33 in GCP

2020-11-21 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 11/19/20 11:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 07:41:02PM -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote: >> We have published an image into GCP for Fedora 33 (see [1]). >> The details are: >> image project: fedora-cloud >> image name:fedora-cloud-base-gcp-33-1-2-x86-64 >> We're hoping to

[Bug 1900223] perl-Hash-Layout-2.00 is available

2020-11-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900223 Emmanuel Seyman changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1900221 Referenced Bugs:

[Bug 1900221] perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Diff-1.10 is available

2020-11-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900221 Emmanuel Seyman changed: What|Removed |Added Depends On||1900223 Doc Type|---

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 11/21/20 6:00 PM, Brandon Nielsen wrote: [Snip] I feel like for something as fundamental to the desktop experience as audio a few test days would really expose all of the pain points. At least personally my uses of audio vary quite a bit day to day and week to week, especially in the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 11/21/20 4:05 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 4:57 PM Tom Seewald wrote: So has this essentially been decided on by the working group? If not, what concerns would be listened to? Well, the idea would be for us to put it into Rawhide and do a series of test days/weeks to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 05:05:59PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 4:57 PM Tom Seewald wrote: > > > > So has this essentially been decided on by the working group? If not, what > > concerns would be listened to? > > Well, the idea would be for us to put it into Rawhide and do

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 9:56 pm, Tom Seewald wrote: So has this essentially been decided on by the working group? We decided to submit a change proposal through the usual change process. :) It includes a fallback plan to defer the change in case there are too many unexpected problems. If

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 4:57 PM Tom Seewald wrote: > > So has this essentially been decided on by the working group? If not, what > concerns would be listened to? Well, the idea would be for us to put it into Rawhide and do a series of test days/weeks to get feedback and close any remaining

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Tom Seewald
So has this essentially been decided on by the working group? If not, what concerns would be listened to? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Szinger wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:47:30 - "Tom Seewald" wrote: > Things like bluetooth support, audio for flatpak applications, and > the new pulse server were just added in the last month or so and > there

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:53 PM James Szinger wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:47:30 - > "Tom Seewald" wrote: > > > Things like bluetooth support, audio for flatpak applications, and > > the new pulse server were just added in the last month or so and > > there are issues with stability and

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:47:30 - "Tom Seewald" wrote: > Things like bluetooth support, audio for flatpak applications, and > the new pulse server were just added in the last month or so and > there are issues with stability and audio playback (look at the issue > tracker [1]), for example HSP

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Tom Seewald
Things like bluetooth support, audio for flatpak applications, and the new pulse server were just added in the last month or so and there are issues with stability and audio playback (look at the issue tracker [1]), for example HSP is still marked as WIP [2]. It seems premature to commit to

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-21 Thread Radka Gustavsson
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 6:59 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 12:01 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 20.11.2020 19:52, Radka Gustavsson wrote: > > > Discord is in fact an amazing chat platform for the end user that > > > doesn't have a peer out there. > > > > 1.

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 12:01 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 20.11.2020 19:52, Radka Gustavsson wrote: > > Discord is in fact an amazing chat platform for the end user that > > doesn't have a peer out there. > > 1. Proprietary software. The open source community should not use >

Re: Sundials-5.5.0+PETSc-3.14.1 updates on Rawhide

2020-11-21 Thread Antonio T. sagitter
Please, rebuild your own dependent packages with 'fedpkg build --target=f34-build-side-34403' $ koji list-tagged --latest f34-build-side-34403 Build Tag Built by

[Bug 1900223] New: perl-Hash-Layout-2.00 is available

2020-11-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900223 Bug ID: 1900223 Summary: perl-Hash-Layout-2.00 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Hash-Layout Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 20.11.20 um 17:36 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: On 20.11.2020 17:26, Ben Cotton wrote: This change proposal is to route all audio from PulseAudio and JACK to the PipeWire Audio daemon by default. IMO, too early. PipeWire is too unstable yet. I suggest postpone this proposal to Fedora

[Bug 1900221] New: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Diff-1.10 is available

2020-11-21 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1900221 Bug ID: 1900221 Summary: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Diff-1.10 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-DBIx-Class-Schema-Diff Keywords:

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 20.11.20 um 23:31 schrieb Naheem Zaffar: I don't think this is the the correct way any longer. Lib-Pulse was AFAIK the initially planned drop-in replacement for pulseaudio. This has since been deprecated. Pipewire-Pulse AFAIK provides a separate pulseaudio server. I dont think it needs

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread James Szinger
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:35:19 -0600 Brandon Nielsen wrote: > If it has changed, it would be really great if pipewire-pulse could > make it into the F33 repos so it could be easily tested. I agree. I think new software should be available and testable on a stable Fedora release before it becomes

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 19:55, Adam Williamson wrote: Do you have any data to support this assertion? PipeWire is still in early development. Some features are not implemented and well-tested yet. We shouldn't break the working audio configuration for end users. They should be able to easily roll

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 20:00, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: With my Fedora Jam hat on (read: professional audio), I believe it's the right move. It's stable *enough* and needs to be tested by the public. If it's still too unstable, then there's a contingency plan. BUT, if we don't move forward *now* we'll

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 20:17, Jared K. Smith wrote: As I recall, it puts a small "(edited)" notice at the end of the line to let you know that it was edited. Yes. And if you click on it, you will see the complete difference. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 19:52, Kevin Fenzi wrote: IMHO editing is fine, as long as it notes it was edited and provides you a way to see what was changed. I have no idea how the matrix editing works however. In the Matrix, you can see the complete differences for each edited message. -- Sincerely,

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-21 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 19:52, Radka Gustavsson wrote: Discord is in fact an amazing chat platform for the end user that doesn't have a peer out there. 1. Proprietary software. The open source community should not use proprietary software as the official chat source. 2. Discord has the worst ToS[1]

License update: scummvm

2020-11-21 Thread Christian Krause
As discussed on the Fedora Legal mailing list, I updated the license tag of scummvm from "GPLv2+" to "GPLv2+ and LGPLv2.1+ and GPLv3+ and BSD and OFL". GPLv3 and OFL are only used for font files. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Fedora-Cloud-31-20201121.0 compose check report

2020-11-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64), 7/7 (aarch64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Fedora-Cloud-32-20201121.0 compose check report

2020-11-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20201120.0): ID: 726938 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: