Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:17:27AM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 11:55 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > > So this is the culprit. iscsi.service has Before=remote-fs-pre.target, > > > After=network-online.target, which

Re: future of dual-boot on the desktop

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:56 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > And my understanding is it's required for > Windows 11 preinstallations. Except if your country has required that TPM not be used, and as Microsoft did not want to prevent billions of people from using Windows 11 those locations are exempt f

Re: future of dual-boot on the desktop

Chris Murphy wrote: > A work around is having GRUB set an NVRAM variable indicating the next > boot should be Windows. That's an instruction to the firmware, so > there's no intermediary, thus measured boot works. The next boot (from > Windows) would boot Fedora again. GRUB can't get or set EFI var

future of dual-boot on the desktop

Hi, Dual boot has been a pretty important use case for Fedora Workstation edition and the desktop spins. There are final release criterion that apply to Windows and macOS (notably not Fedora itself or any other Linux distros): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Window

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 11:55 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > So this is the culprit. iscsi.service has Before=remote-fs-pre.target, > > After=network-online.target, which means that it'll delay the boot. > > If that's the problem, there's some ot

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > So this is the culprit. iscsi.service has Before=remote-fs-pre.target, > After=network-online.target, which means that it'll delay the boot. If that's the problem, there's some other issue. On my up-to-date F35 system, iscsi.service also has:

Re: GNOME only: KeepassXC quirks

This problem should have been fixed with commit https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/?id=dda7dab8274991e4a61a97c352d4367f8f815bb9 after checking which Qt version includes such commit, I will remove xcb.patch [1] and release a new keepassxc release to test its behaviour [1]: https://src.

Re: Devtoolset for epel7 for build in Copr

Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: I guess the easiest workaround would be to create an llvm-toolset-11.0 Copr and to build llvm-toolset-11.0-*.src.rpm from: http://springdale.princeton.edu/data/springdale/SCL/7/SRPMS/ in it. Unfortunately, the rebiuld of all the llvm-toolset stuff from the sources i

Re: Devtoolset for epel7 for build in Copr

Dmitry Butskoy wrote: > Second, the alternate Springdale Linux repo > http://springdale.princeton.edu/data/springdale/SCL/7/x86_64/ seems to > have all the ones (which are provided in sources by RedHat), but cannot > be used in Copr. Springdale provides devtoolset-3-elfutils there, and it > in some

Fedora-36-20220223.n.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 10/229 (x86_64), 17/161 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-36-20220222.n.1): ID: 1143760 Test: x86_64 universal install_shrink_ntfs URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1143760 ID: 1143776 Test: aarch64 universal

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On 23/02/2022 21:23, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: a) change libvirt-daemon-driver-storage Requires:libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-iscsi to Suggests:libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-iscsi, More generally why does installing libvirt neeed to force installation of about ten storage drivers

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On Wed, Feb 23 2022 at 10:23:14 PM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'd vote for a) Me too. I have a feeling this is going to dramatically improve our boot times. Shame we didn't notice this long ago. Oh well ___ devel mailing list -

Re: RPM spec feedback directly in your editor

On 2/23/22 08:54, Andreas Schneider wrote: On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 7:41:16 PM CET Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote: error: Unable to open /dev/stdin: No such device or address How about "/proc/self/fd/0"? Nope doesn't work ... /dev/stdin is a symlink to /proc/self/fd/0. I wonder if this is

Fedora-IoT-36-20220223.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 2/16 (x86_64), 1/15 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-36-20220222.0): ID: 1143988 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_zezere_server URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1143988 ID: 1143990 Test: x86_64 IoT-d

Re: Need advice on NET_ADMIN capability on a binary (iotop-c)

On 2/22/22 12:14, Boian Bonev wrote: Hi Dan, Thanks for the suggestion - I like that way because it gives full control to the admin together with the responsibility and does not implicitly do unexpected things. It is also a clean approach both from user experience and packaging point of vie

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 4:25 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > So this is the culprit. iscsi.service has Before=remote-fs-pre.target, > After=network-online.target, which means that it'll delay the boot. > remote-fs-pre.target is Before remote-fs.target which is Before >

Re: Is NetworkManager-wait-online.service necessary by default?

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 08:26:22PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 3:19 PM Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > > > On Di, 22.02.22 14:36, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:34 PM Gary Buhrmaster > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps

License change: python-userpath 1.8.0 is “MIT” instead of “MIT OR ASL 2.0”

With version 1.8.0, upstream for python-userpath has dropped the Apache license option. The License field has therefore changed from “MIT OR ASL 2.0” to simply “MIT”. This version will appear in F37/Rawhide and (after the beta freeze) F36/branched. – Ben ___

Fedora 36 compose report: 20220223.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-36-20220222.n.1 NEW: Fedora-36-20220223.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 7:00 PM Björn Persson wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Apart from Dmitry, I don't think there were any opinions from folks > > who would be directly impacted. > > I don't know which programs use Curl so I can't tell whether I'd be > impacted. I understand t

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Apart from Dmitry, I don't think there were any opinions from folks > who would be directly impacted. I don't know which programs use Curl so I can't tell whether I'd be impacted. I understand that Yum uses it. Lack of IDNA in Yum would impact me if I had a pri

Re: Devtoolset for epel7 for build in Copr

Ben Beasley wrote: Yes, the devtoolsets work nicely if you supply the appropriate incantations. I haven’t tried in COPR specifically I've just tried and it seems that devtoolset are not available for epel7 builds in Copr. (For epel7, I successfully build seamonkey with devtoolset already for y

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:33:16AM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 22/02/2022 12:33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Given that the accounts system already supports these OTPs, what > > is the reason for not mandating this OTP based 2FA for*all* > > contributors today, as oppposed to mere

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > According to ICANN [1], there were 8.3 mln IDN domains worldwide. And that's presumably only second-level domains. Nobody knows how many non-ASCII subdomains exist under ASCII second-level domains, since domain holders define subdomains at will without telling

Re: RPM spec feedback directly in your editor

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 7:41:16 PM CET Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote: > > error: Unable to open /dev/stdin: No such device or address > > How about "/proc/self/fd/0"? Nope doesn't work ... /dev/stdin is a symlink to /proc/self/fd/0. I wonder if this is only available with a shell ... __

F37 Change: Boost 1.78 upgrade (System-Wide Change proposal)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F37Boost178 == Summary == This change brings Boost 1.78 to Fedora. This will mean Fedora ships with a recent upstream Boost release. == Owner == * Name: [[User:trodgers| Thomas Rodgers]] * Email: trodg...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == The aim is

Re: Devtoolset for epel7 for build in Copr

Yes, the devtoolsets work nicely if you supply the appropriate incantations. I haven’t tried in COPR specifically, but I assume the situation is the same as in EPEL proper. Please see the very clean example in the epel7 branch for sleef[1], which was kindly contributed by Dave Love. – Ben [1]

Devtoolset for epel7 for build in Copr

Is it possible to use RHEL7 devtoolsets (aka devtoolset-8, llvm-toolset-11 and so on) for the correspond builds in Copr, as well as it is possible for builds for Fedora EPEL7 ? ~buc ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: rpmlint 2.x totally bogus output on debuginfo sub-pkgs

Hi, On 2/23/22 15:23, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 01:45:02PM +0100, Hans de Goede napsal(a): >> I'm wondering if I'm the only one who is seeing quite a few bogus >> warnings / errors getting thrown by rpmlint when run on C/C++ >> debuginfo sub-pkgs ? >> >> And assuming I'm not the o

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 02:22:32PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 02:52:02PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:22:00 AM CET Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > > Dear Kamil, > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > >

Re: rpmlint 2.x totally bogus output on debuginfo sub-pkgs

V Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 01:45:02PM +0100, Hans de Goede napsal(a): > I'm wondering if I'm the only one who is seeing quite a few bogus > warnings / errors getting thrown by rpmlint when run on C/C++ > debuginfo sub-pkgs ? > > And assuming I'm not the only one I'm wondering if there are some > plans

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 02:52:02PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:22:00 AM CET Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > Dear Kamil, > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once up

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 02:52:02PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:22:00 AM CET Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: Dear Kamil, On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:22:00 AM CET Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > Dear Kamil, > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM Kamil Dudka wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > > > Yes. But how many d

rpmlint 2.x totally bogus output on debuginfo sub-pkgs

Hi All, I'm wondering if I'm the only one who is seeing quite a few bogus warnings / errors getting thrown by rpmlint when run on C/C++ debuginfo sub-pkgs ? And assuming I'm not the only one I'm wondering if there are some plans to address / fix this ? I tend to always run rpmlint as part of my

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote on Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:44:12AM +0100: > According to ICANN [1], there were 8.3 mln IDN domains worldwide. I admit > that is more than I expected. According to verisgn [2], out of 364.6 mln > total, > i.e. around 2%. > Apparently .рф is fairly popular, with 1/5

Orphaned magic-wormhole + its python deps

Hi everyone, I have just orphaned magic-wormhole (the original one written in Python) and its dependencies. I no longer use it, I have no time to fix the packages for new Python versions, and upstream is pretty much dead since they started porting the project to Rust. - python-magic-wormhole - py

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:33:16AM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 22/02/2022 12:33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Given that the accounts system already supports these OTPs, what > > is the reason for not mandating this OTP based 2FA for*all* > > contributors today, as oppposed to mere

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220223.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220221.0): ID: 1142769 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 08:51:10AM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > > > > Yes. But how many domains using idn are there? I worked on idn support > > > in systemd, but when prepa

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

On 22/02/2022 12:33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: Given that the accounts system already supports these OTPs, what is the reason for not mandating this OTP based 2FA for*all* contributors today, as oppposed to merely infra people ? I like it, but many Fedora contributors won't be happy. Google sai

Re: Preventing account takeovers through expired domains

On 23/02/2022 00:03, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: a TPM(2?) chip as a possible secure processor. In some countries, TPM can't be pre-installed on all new PCs/Laptops due to regulation issues. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ dev

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

Dear Kamil, On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:51 AM Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > > > > Yes. But how many domains using idn are there? I worked on idn support > > > in systemd, but when

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On 23/02/2022 08:46, Kamil Dudka wrote: Of course, each application that does not need FTP, can disable the protocol at run-time. But disabling it globally on default installations of Fedora would make this change too controversial. We can reconsider it later in case the initial change is wel

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

On 22/02/2022 21:45, Peter Robinson wrote: Does it make sense to keep FTP with most browsers obsoleting the protocol due to lack of security? Many Fedora mirrors still use FTP. You can check metalink file. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) _

Re: Rpm: provide a static library in package

On 23/02/2022 02:05, Denis Fateyev wrote: Unfortunately, the shared library support is explicitly removed by the upstream: You can revert this commit with a downstream patch. I believe it's not worth to work around this behavior additionally. From README: > This library is obsolete. Please

Re: Rpm: provide a static library in package

On 22/02/2022 19:57, Denis Fateyev wrote: So I'm going to make changes in the package, and provide everything in "-devel" subpackage. No. You must patch the build manifest and force building as a shared library, regardless of the upstream choice. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packagin

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220223.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220222.0): ID: 1142635 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Self Introduction: Yunmei Li

On 2/23/22 6:42 AM, Yunmei LI wrote: Hi, Thanks for your help! I reworked the Milvus package for EPEL8 based on the comments I received, and updated theSpec URL and SRPMURL on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2055596 I

Re: Question about Fedora Package Naming

Hello Remi, Thank you very much for your reply! I am a PHP user for years. I like PHP very much except for breaking compatibility :P How do you think about adding something similar to the following sentences to naming scheme of PHP packaging guidelines[1]. I understand the preference is to updat