Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Leigh Scott
> On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:12 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > Why isn't this as simple as: > > 1) Create an f37-multilib-build build tag with all supported arches + i686, > and an f37-multilib{,-candidate} build targets to use it (with destination tag > of f37-updates-candidate); > > 2) Drop i686 f

Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:12 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > == Detailed Description == > > Fedora does no longer ship any deliverables for i686, not even RPM > repositories for i686 are published any longer. The kernel package > itself also [[Changes/Stop Building i686 Kernels|dropped support for > i68

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:41 AM Paul Howarth wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:26:54 +0100 > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal > > > for debugging purposes. > > > > Telnet is an extremel

Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 09:06:01AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: > So I guess this is the part I don't really understand (and I guess why I > don't see this proposal as a "win") - how is i686 painful to package > maintainers for non-delivered packages? Maybe I'm just missing > something, but what caus

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:55:39AM +0100, Alex wrote: > Hi. > > I have seen in https://lwn.net/Articles/887313/ that you plan to remove the > "telnet" protocol from curl-minimal. > > I use `curl -v telnet://` almost every day for debugging purpose just > because curl is in the most systems by

[fyi] Folly stack temporarily switched to Clang for Fedora 36+

2022-03-10 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Dear all, Just a heads-up that Folly and packages built against it are mostly* switched to build using Clang for the time being, when compiled on Fedora 36 and above. * the exception is watchman, which needs some work to get the latest version to build because upstream started porting some func

Re: Pytest 7 coming to rawhide next week

2022-03-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 04. 03. 22 12:16, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello Pythonistas, I intent to upgrade pytest in Rawhide to 7.0.x next week. Building it now. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 19:28 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 17:51, Simo Sorce wrote: > [...] > > Also I always resented that I need two separate accounts to deal with > > Fedora packages, > > It's been possible to log in with FAS credentials (automatica

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 17:51, Simo Sorce wrote: [...] > Also I always resented that I need two separate accounts to deal with > Fedora packages, It's been possible to log in with FAS credentials (automatically if you have an active Kerberos ticket) into bugzilla for quite some time now. I s

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:55:39AM +0100, Alex wrote: > I have seen in https://lwn.net/Articles/887313/ that you plan to remove the > "telnet" protocol from curl-minimal. > I use `curl -v telnet://` almost every day for debugging purpose just > because curl is in the most systems by default ins

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 09:44 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux > > release > > cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting to wrap up wi

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10. 03. 22 17:33, Ben Cotton wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters wrote: Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by Fedora, personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead. I'm not sure how active the use of Red Hat Bugzilla is outside of the

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters wrote: > > Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by Fedora, > personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead. I'm not sure how active the use of Red Hat Bugzilla is outside of the distribution space. I have no concerns

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:45 AM Colin Walters wrote: > Long term if Bugzilla slowly morphs into only being used by Fedora, > personally I'd prefer to have bugs/issues in gitlab instead. Yes, I personally think gitlab.com would be a good replacement for src.fedoraproject.org and bugzilla.redhat.co

gnome-backgrounds license change to CC-BY-SA from GPLv2

2022-03-10 Thread David King
Hi While updating gnome-backgrounds, I realised that all the backgrounds were licensed under CC-BY-SA, rather than the specified GPLv2, and after checking with upstream, I updated the License field accordingly. Cheers -- https://amigadave.com/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature _

Re: [CentOS-devel] [EPEL-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:05 PM Davide Cavalca via CentOS-devel wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux > > release > > cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting

Fedora-36-20220310.n.0 compose check report

2022-03-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 9/161 (aarch64), 8/229 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-36-20220309.n.0): ID: 1167927 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_hd_variation@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1167927 ID: 1167938 T

Fedora-IoT-36-20220310.0 compose check report

2022-03-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 3/15 (aarch64), 2/15 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-36-20220309.0): ID: 1168236 Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_zezere_server@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1168236 ID: 1168248 Test: aarch6

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release > cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting to wrap up with the spring > 2022 release coming soon. That means planning for the n

[Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 36 Beta is NO-GO

2022-03-10 Thread Ben Cotton
Due to outstanding blocker bugs[1], we do not have an F36 Beta RC. As a result, F36 Beta is NO-GO by default and today's Go/No-Go meeting is cancelled. The next Fedora Linux 36 Beta Go/No-Go meeting[2] will be held at 1700 UTC on Thursday 17 March in #fedora-meeting. We will aim for the "target da

Re: F37 Change: Drop i686 builds of jdk8,11,17 and latest (18) rpms from f37 onwards (System-Wide Change)

2022-03-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 4:01 PM Ben Cotton wrote: (snip) > == Scope == > Change owners > * we will simiply stop building i686 pkg in rawhide > > Other developers > * may notice the multilib i686 java missing. > * it is up to them to drop i686 builds or to povide workaround (if

Re: Unretiring Icedtea-web

2022-03-10 Thread Steve Cossette
Ah, didn't see that on the page. Thanks! Le jeu. 10 mars 2022, à 09 h 24, Fabio Valentini a écrit : > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:20 PM Ben Beasley > wrote: > > > > Since icedtea-web was orphaned for 6+ weeks, it was retired. You must > > therefore follow [1]. Note that: > > > > Retired Fedo

Re: Unretiring Icedtea-web

2022-03-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:20 PM Ben Beasley wrote: > > Since icedtea-web was orphaned for 6+ weeks, it was retired. You must > therefore follow [1]. Note that: > > Retired Fedora packages (rawhide branch retired) require a > re-review if they are retired for more than eight weeks or if there

Re: Unretiring Icedtea-web

2022-03-10 Thread Ben Beasley
Since icedtea-web was orphaned for 6+ weeks, it was retired. You must therefore follow [1]. Note that:     Retired Fedora packages (rawhide branch retired) require a re-review if they are retired for more than eight weeks or if there is no previous review of the package. This package has a p

Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 9:07 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: Thanks for your feedback! > The word "encourage" is rather weird here. I am not a native speaker, but that > sound to me like we are agitating for active removals. Like we go to the > packagers and ask them: Could oyu please drop i686 from your

Unretiring Icedtea-web

2022-03-10 Thread Steve Cossette
Good morning all, First, I apologize if dumb questions are in this post -- still wet behind the ears when it comes to packaging. I was wondering what was needed to unretire a package, this one specifically: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/icedtea-web It seems to still be developed ( https://g

Fedora 36 compose report: 20220310.n.0 changes

2022-03-10 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-36-20220309.n.0 NEW: Fedora-36-20220310.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 23 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 142.42 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Mar 10 2022 at 11:55:39 AM +0100, Alex wrote: I have seen in https://lwn.net/Articles/887313/ that you plan to remove the "telnet" protocol from curl-minimal. Next up: I see you're planning to remove the brotli compression support. I think that's actually used along with gzip for HTT

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Alex
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 14:10:17 +0100 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 10/03/2022 13:47, Alex wrote: > > Here a example test. I know that this could be also done with https but > > it's a understandable example, IMHO. > > Better example: > openssl s_client -connect example.org:443 > Agree whe

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 10/03/2022 12:41, Paul Howarth wrote: I wonder, do you have the "telnet" program installed on your machine(s)? No. All my services use TLS. openssl s_client -connect example.org:443 -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 10/03/2022 13:47, Alex wrote: Here a example test. I know that this could be also done with https but it's a understandable example, IMHO. Better example: openssl s_client -connect example.org:443 -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Alex
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 11:41:15 + Paul Howarth wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:26:54 +0100 > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal > > > for debugging purposes. > > > > Telnet is an ex

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 7:09 AM Tom Hughes wrote: > > On 10/03/2022 11:51, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:49 AM Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > >> Everyone has their own conflicting idea of what is 'minimal'. There's > >> no nice way to solve this problem in Fedora without c

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 10/03/2022 11:51, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:49 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: Everyone has their own conflicting idea of what is 'minimal'. There's no nice way to solve this problem in Fedora without curl upstream supporting dlopen modules per protoocol, allowing us to packa

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2022-03-10 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2022-03-11 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10133/ ___ devel maili

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:49 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal for > > > debugging purposes. > > > > Telnet is an

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal for > > debugging purposes. > > Telnet is an extremely vulnerable protocol. It must be disable. > > If you need it,

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 10.03.22 um 12:26 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal for debugging purposes. Telnet is an extremely vulnerable protocol. It must be disable. It should not be used on a regular basis, but

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:26:54 +0100 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal > > for debugging purposes. > > Telnet is an extremely vulnerable protocol. It must be disable. > > If you need it, you

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote: May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal for debugging purposes. Telnet is an extremely vulnerable protocol. It must be disable. If you need it, you can always install libcurl-full. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.o

Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Alex
Hi. I have seen in https://lwn.net/Articles/887313/ that you plan to remove the "telnet" protocol from curl-minimal. I use `curl -v telnet://` almost every day for debugging purpose just because curl is in the most systems by default installed. I know that there are some other tools like soca

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220310.0 compose check report

2022-03-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220309.0): ID: 1167584 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220310.0 compose check report

2022-03-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220309.0): ID: 1167568 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: undefined symbol `__libc_stack_end' in F36/Rawhide

2022-03-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ron Olson: > Building swiftlang on F36/Rawhide results in a a failure that, boiled down to > its essence, appears to be: > > /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/lto-llvm-4fd0b1.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against > undefined symbol `__libc_stack_end' can not be used when making a shared > object; recompile wit

Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-03-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 09. 03. 22 18:05, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:55 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: (...) OK then, I can +1 that, but please: Make that more obvious in the proposal. Honest question: How do I do that? Do you have a suggestion? > Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686