Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Neal Gompa wrote: > The binary RPM for grub's BIOS boot code is grub2-pc (and > grub2-pc-modules), not grub2. But "grub2-pc" is not particularly > descriptive as a source package name, so grub2-bios makes sense for > the source package name if we need to split it. May i propose "grub2-pc-bios

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:30 PM Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > dnf, microdnf > > Doesn't the change page say the Python DNF will go away? > This question will be addressed in a separate change proposal. Fedora 39 can be taken as a primary ta

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/12/22 13:54, Ben Cotton wrote: == Detailed Description == The new major Microdnf will provide huge improvements and in some cases better behavior then DNF. In the future, the new Microdnf will replace DNF. The new Microdnf will be accompanied by a new library (`libdnf5`) and a new DNF Daemon

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 12:38 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > We've got a 300+ message thread in just one week, with 66 different > > participants. This handily beats discussions systemd-resolved, > > btrfs-by-default, and even switching the default editor to nano. >

Re: NodeJS help: updating python-pydata-sphinx-theme

2022-04-13 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/11/22 17:45, Sandro Mani wrote: > Facing a similar situation a while ago, it was suggested to use a script > like [1] to prepare an offline cache of all dependencies, and point yarn > to that folder in the package spec. Other example is pgadmin4 [2]. > > Sandro That only works if that folde

Re: F37 Change: RPM 4.18 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/12/22 11:22, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 04:04:35PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > napsal(a): >> On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:16:59AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: >>> Where should autoreconf be placed? %pre or %conf? >> >> For me the important distinction is that %prep should *

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/13/22 17:11, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 13.4.2022 08:04, David Bold wrote: >> >> It seems I must be missing something? Why should we not care about a >> significant number of our users, just because other OSs have more users? >> Could you explain that? > > First of all this is not si

Re: gcc + llvm + annobin mess in f36-updates-testing

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Apr 14 2022 at 03:02:16 AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Given that this is not the first time that we have annobin-induced breakage endangering a release, Thing is, Kevin has a point here. I've lost track of the number of times annobin troubles have resulted in gratuitous too

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/12/22 16:54, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf > > == Summary == > A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of > package management in Fedora. The new microdnf has ambitions to > provide all major features of DNF without lo

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > The binary RPM for grub's BIOS boot code is grub2-pc (and > grub2-pc-modules), not grub2. Oh, it used to be just grub2 until F26 (included), I had either forgotten or not noticed at all that it had been renamed back in F27 already. (It used to be the case for years that grub2

Re: gcc + llvm + annobin mess in f36-updates-testing

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > And, lo and behold, now there's a third update for annobin: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-3dd2ddf4ab > > The update for LLVM 14 was pushed to stable due to a freeze exception, > but the GCC+annobin update is still in "testing". > And now there's a n

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 8:45 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Hans de Goede wrote: > > As the Source0 provider for the packages and then next to: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2 > > > > Add a: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2-bios > > > > And moving the build o

Re: adding GCC Toolset usage docs

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Germano Massullo wrote: > This problem was caused because I had misinterpreted official Red Hat > configuration [2]. The documentation was written with interactive use in mind, not for scripting or packaging. The "scl enable" tool is very impractical for packaging because you would have to prefi

Re: gcc + llvm + annobin mess in f36-updates-testing

2022-04-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 12:48 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Hi all, > > Looks like there's a little bit of a mess around LLVM 14 / GCC / > annobin updates brewing in f36-updates-testing. > > Right now, there's *two* updates in "testing" state that contain > builds of annobin: > > - https://bodhi.fe

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Hans de Goede wrote: > As the Source0 provider for the packages and then next to: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2 > > Add a: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2-bios > > And moving the build of all sub-packages which are > only necessary for BIOS support to the second src.

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > We've got a 300+ message thread in just one week, with 66 different > participants. This handily beats discussions systemd-resolved, > btrfs-by-default, and even switching the default editor to nano. > > Clearly there's a lot to talk about here. Would it be useful to have a

Re: grub2 BIOS booting iso and code

2022-04-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 7:52 PM Brian C. Lane wrote: > > A huge thanks to Thomas Schmitt for posting xorrisofs arguments :) > > Here is a lorax PR switching to grub2 for BIOS and changing the layout > of the iso as described in his post: > > https://github.com/weldr/lorax/pull/1226 > > And a Fedor

grub2 BIOS booting iso and code

2022-04-13 Thread Brian C. Lane
A huge thanks to Thomas Schmitt for posting xorrisofs arguments :) Here is a lorax PR switching to grub2 for BIOS and changing the layout of the iso as described in his post: https://github.com/weldr/lorax/pull/1226 And a Fedora 36 iso: https://bcl.fedorapeople.org/boot-grub2-f36.iso I've test

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-04-13

2022-04-13 Thread Jonathan Lebon
Minutes: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_coreos_meeting/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-04-13-16.31.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_coreos_meeting/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-04-13-16.31.txt Log: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedo

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > If that proves acceptable for change owners here that would perhaps take > care of the short term problem. What about longer term though? Would the > thought be that the BIOS sig would remain around for the forseeable > future maintaini

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On 13.4.2022 08:04, David Bold wrote: It seems I must be missing something? Why should we not care about a significant number of our users, just because other OSs have more users? Could you explain that? First of all this is not significant number of Fedora's users ( or in the overall deskt

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:27:14PM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > > FWIW, ATM I think everything which can be said about > > this has been said and I'm not sure if having a video > > call about this will add anything new. > Agreed. Works for me -- I just wanted to put the option there in case it _

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:03:09PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > > 1. I'm not sure if it is possible to setup group ownership > of pkgs in pagure? So to keep things simple the few packages which > are only necessary for BIOS boot can be handed over to me and then > I'll just add other peo

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip bios sig plan... Thanks for that Hans! If that proves acceptable for change owners here that would perhaps take care of the short term problem. What about longer term though? Would the thought be that the BIOS sig would remain around for the forseeable future maintaining BIOS boot? Or wo

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:03:09PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 4/13/22 18:07, David Cantrell wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:39:23AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 13 2022 at 10:54:01 AM -0400, David Cantrell > >> wrote: > >>> The core issue still comes down t

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 4/13/22 18:07, David Cantrell wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:39:23AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 13 2022 at 10:54:01 AM -0400, David Cantrell >> wrote: >>> The core issue still comes down to having resources to continue >>> maintaining >>> BIOS boot support in Fedor

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:34:18AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/13/22 07:54, David Cantrell wrote: > > The core issue still comes down to having resources to continue maintaining > > BIOS boot support in Fedora and so far no one has come forward to work on > > that. > > As far as I can tell fr

Re: adding GCC Toolset usage docs

2022-04-13 Thread Marek Polacek
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 07:08:13PM +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: > Hello, in my opinion we should add to Fedora Packaging Guidelines, a > paragraph concerning GCC Toolset usage. > > I recently experienced some problems in building darktable for > epel8/epel8-next due bad configuration of gcc-tool

adding GCC Toolset usage docs

2022-04-13 Thread Germano Massullo
Hello, in my opinion we should add to Fedora Packaging Guidelines, a paragraph concerning GCC Toolset usage. I recently experienced some problems in building darktable for epel8/epel8-next due bad configuration of gcc-toolset-11 in the spec file. In a few words, gcc-toolset-11 was not really e

Fedora-IoT-36-20220413.0 compose check report

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 2/15 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-36-20220411.0): ID: 1224256 Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1224256 Old failures (same test failed in Fed

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/13/22 07:54, David Cantrell wrote: The core issue still comes down to having resources to continue maintaining BIOS boot support in Fedora and so far no one has come forward to work on that. As far as I can tell from the responses in the other thread, there is not currently an issue with

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-04-13 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 14:25, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 09:54:12AM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > > If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this thread. > > I use {glibc{,-devel,-static},{gmp,mpfr,libmpc}{,-devel}}.i686 for > development and testing of G

Fedora-36-20220413.n.0 compose check report

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 6/229 (x86_64), 11/161 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-36-20220412.n.0): ID: 1223658 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_lvm_ext4@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1223658 ID: 1223806 Test: aarch64 Ser

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:39:23AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13 2022 at 10:54:01 AM -0400, David Cantrell > wrote: > > The core issue still comes down to having resources to continue > > maintaining > > BIOS boot support in Fedora and so far no one has come forward to work > >

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Apr 13 2022 at 10:54:01 AM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: The core issue still comes down to having resources to continue maintaining BIOS boot support in Fedora and so far no one has come forward to work on that. It's not true, although you can be forgiven for missing it in such a ma

Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

2022-04-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 07:20:52PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > We've got a 300+ message thread in just one week, with 66 different > participants. This handily beats discussions systemd-resolved, > btrfs-by-default, and even switching the default editor to nano. > > Clearly there's a lot to tal

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > dnf, microdnf Doesn't the change page say the Python DNF will go away? I would welcome a pure C/C++ base system, with no language interpreters beyond bash. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:07 AM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Il 12/04/22 22:54, Ben Cotton ha scritto: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf > > > > == Summary == > > A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of > > package management in Fedor

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 12/04/22 22:54, Ben Cotton ha scritto: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf > > == Summary == > A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of > package management in Fedora. The new microdnf has ambitions to > provide all major features of DNF witho

Fedora 36 compose report: 20220413.n.0 changes

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-36-20220412.n.0 NEW: Fedora-36-20220413.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:1.33 MiB Size of

[Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 36 Final is NO-GO

2022-04-13 Thread Ben Cotton
Due to outstanding blocker bugs[1], we do not have an F36 Final release candidate. As a result, F36 Final is NO-GO for the early release target and tomorrow's Go/No-Go meeting is cancelled. The next Fedora Linux 36 Final Go/No-Go meeting[2] will be held at 1700 UTC on Thursday 21 April in #fedora-

Fedora-Rawhide-20220413.n.0 compose check report

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Minimal raw-xz armhfp Compose PASSES proposed Rawhide gating check! All required tests passed Failed openQA tests: 12/231 (x86_64), 12/152 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20220412.n.0): ID: 1223127 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-i

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:15 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 12. 04. 22 v 22:54 Ben Cotton napsal(a): > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf > > > > == Summary == > > A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of > > package management in Fedora. The

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220413.0 compose check report

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (aarch64), 1/8 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) New soft failures (same test not soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220412.0): ID: 1223407 Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi URL:

Re: ppc64le build failure on F34 and EPEL8, EPEL8-next only

2022-04-13 Thread Germano Massullo
I confirm Dan's analysis. Problem solved. All details at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2074663#c7 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Con

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220413.n.0 changes

2022-04-13 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220412.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220413.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 5 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 81 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 6.36 MiB Size of dropped packages:1.14

Re: ppc64le build failure on F34 and EPEL8, EPEL8-next only

2022-04-13 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:47:55 +0200 Germano Massullo wrote: > Il 12/04/22 20:59, Dan Horák ha scritto: > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:20:25 +0200 > > Germano Massullo wrote: > > > >> Hello, a new kind of failure is happening, still on same package and CPU > >> arch > >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org

Re: F38 Change: Major upgrade of Microdnf (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-04-13 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 12. 04. 22 v 22:54 Ben Cotton napsal(a): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf == Summary == A major upgrade of Microdnf is the first step in the evolution of package management in Fedora. The new microdnf has ambitions to provide all major features of DNF without lo

Re: ppc64le build failure on F34 and EPEL8, EPEL8-next only

2022-04-13 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 12/04/22 20:59, Dan Horák ha scritto: On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:20:25 +0200 Germano Massullo wrote: Hello, a new kind of failure is happening, still on same package and CPU arch https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=85563318 Maybe an OpenMP bug? so now it chokes on inlined func