Re: ask to test latest systemd build for systemd-resolved problems

2021-03-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 17:39 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 08:42:51AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Can you do a Koji scratch build? This is easier for me to test in > > openQA (I already have the tooling set up to schedule tests on scr

Re: ask to test latest systemd build for systemd-resolved problems

2021-03-26 Thread Adam Williamson
st "yes"/"no" is already useful. Can you do a Koji scratch build? This is easier for me to test in openQA (I already have the tooling set up to schedule tests on scratch builds, it cannot do it for COPR builds). Thanks! -- Adam Williamson

[Test-Announce] 2021-03-22 @ **15:00** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-03-20 Thread Adam Williamson
and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 Beta prep and status 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

[Test-Announce] 2021-03-15 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 34 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-03-14 Thread Adam Williamson
r how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adam

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-03-15 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-03-14 Thread Adam Williamson
! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

[Test-Announce] 2021-03-08 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
and community events. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 status 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter

[Test-Announce] 2021-03-08 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 34 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-03-07 Thread Adam Williamson
orrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an ema

Re: Plymouth, themes and console clearing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933378

2021-03-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 01:51 +0100, David Kaufmann wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 02:45:29PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, you could still argue it's prettier than a wall-o-text boot. And > > it *does* hide the wall-o-text. > > On the first boot after inst

Re: Plymouth, themes and console clearing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933378

2021-03-04 Thread Adam Williamson
should fix the > bug of the text splash showing by installing plymouth-system-theme, or the > server spin does not want a pretty boot and then there should be no > plymouth at all. What if we want something arguably-prettier than wall-o-text, but don't want an extra 32 package

Plymouth, themes and console clearing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933378

2021-03-04 Thread Adam Williamson
e do? 1) Remove plymouth from @core 2) Add plymouth-system-theme to @core 3) Make Hans/Ray/someone fix the plymouth bug Opinions? :) Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

Re: Update gating test is "failed" with no useful information

2021-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
the same thing as the abidiff failure: the update changes the ABI. Note that many other files in the package will have changed, but they're not *all* shown in the test results, just these specific ones. The question here is more "should ABI change-type issues be counted as failures on Rawhide

[Test-Announce] 2021-03-01 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 34 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-02-28 Thread Adam Williamson
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[Test-Announce] Re: Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-02-29 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2021-02-27 at 23:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have > anything urgent this week, and we'll be doing a blocker meeting for F34. > > If you're aware of anything important we have to discuss this week, >

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-02-29 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

[Test-Announce] 2021-02-22 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 34 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-02-21 Thread Adam Williamson
ker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

[Test-Announce] 2021-02-22 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-02-21 Thread Adam Williamson
tomorrow. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 status and Changes 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-02-15 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
to this mail with an agenda and go ahead and run the meeting on Monday. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora 33 Beta blocker status email #1

2021-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
is a problem. This cycle it's actually going better, I'd say - we're not at freeze yet, remember. We've only just branched. Freeze isn't for over a week. And the kde-settings build happened today. If that does the job, then I'm fine with the timing. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitte

Re: Attempting to allow for a source of truth for Fedora release cycle information: releasestream

2021-02-11 Thread Adam Williamson
illion other 'states' that it would be useful to have info on which aren't relevant to any *one* existing system, and that's why to me it makes sense to have a separate thing for that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

Re: Attempting to allow for a source of truth for Fedora release cycle information: releasestream

2021-02-10 Thread Adam Williamson
edit, which winds up getting reprocessed into that...:D https://fedorapeople.org/groups/qa/metadata/release.json -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-02-08 Thread Adam Williamson
n particular it means that > the following users/groups are covered: For the record it's also required by fedora-messaging, which is why just about everything else in the world needed it :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-02-08 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have anything urgent this week. If you're aware of anything important we have to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: mesa 21.0.0-rc3 making rawhide really unstable?

2021-02-02 Thread Adam Williamson
it shaky right now, but I think openQA was seeing repeated Shell crashes up until today's compose - with debug kernels - but with today's compose (with a non-debug kernel) that doesn't seem to be happening. We *do* get a crash during g-i-s right after first boot of the installed system, though. I'

[Test-Announce] 2021-02-01 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-01-31 Thread Adam Williamson
tomorrow. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 status and Changes 3. Criteria proposals, etc. 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Scale ZRAM to Full Memory Size — arbitrary scaling

2021-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
stand. This is > well before the zram module is loaded, by the way. I've filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1921923 for this. zdzichu suggests https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/1/25/701 may be related. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.ne

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Scale ZRAM to Full Memory Size — arbitrary scaling

2021-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-28 at 10:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2021-01-28 at 14:16 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > > With today's OpenQA tests I can point out that using zram on 2048MB RAM

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Scale ZRAM to Full Memory Size — arbitrary scaling

2021-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
test that runs a default Fedora Server install: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/763650 which, AIUI, should not be creating a swap partition. The logs from the test - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/763657/file/role_deploy_domain_contr

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 09:25 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey folks! > > So here's an idea I was thinking about over the RH shutdown: I propose > we gate stable release critical path updates on the openQA tests. A further update on this: FESCo has voted on it and approved it: https

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-01-25 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! Sorry for the late notice - I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have anything urgent this week. If you're aware of anything important we have to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson

Re: Backwards-incompatible RPM format change in Fedora 34?

2021-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-01-22 at 09:57 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 1/21/21 8:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 10:53 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > With rpm-4.15.1-3.fc32.1.x86_64, I get this erro

Re: Backwards-incompatible RPM format change in Fedora 34?

2021-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
er. > > Considering that direct upgrades from F32 to F34 (n to n+2) are supposed to > be supported, this sounds like a blocker to me. openQA N+2 upgrade tests have indeed been running into this for a few days: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/759545#step/upgrade_run/20 I had been meaning to dig

[Test-Announce] 2021-01-18 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-01-15 Thread Adam Williamson
on Monday. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 status (inc. GNOME 40) 3. Gating proposals/ideas 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-14 at 13:21 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 14. 01. 21 13:15, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > As feedback on this was mostly positive, I went ahead and did the work. > > > The PR for the Greenwave policy has been m

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 09:25 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey folks! > > So here's an idea I was thinking about over the RH shutdown: I propose > we gate stable release critical path updates on the openQA tests. As feedback on this was mostly positive, I went ahead and did the

Re: Attempting to allow for a source of truth for Fedora release cycle information: releasestream

2021-01-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 13:42 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I'm definitely in favor of this effort. ;) > > A few questions inline... > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 09:53:36AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > ...snip... > > > > that is all it does. The "releases"

Attempting to allow for a source of truth for Fedora release cycle information: releasestream

2021-01-13 Thread Adam Williamson
f a state change to change radically - it can go from being done by a human to being done by system X to being done by system Y, and all that needs to happen is to ensure the same dead simple POST request is sent to the same server. So, what do folks think? Does this seem like a good idea? Shou

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-11 Thread Adam Williamson
tainers might not bother to do any of those three things, *but* if we disabled autopush, they *would* check that the updates their update depends on have gone stable before pushing it stable manually. I'm sceptical that that is the case. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw |

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-11 Thread Adam Williamson
changed Bodhi to precisely your preferred configuration, I'm gonna posit that maintainers would still manage to get stuff wrong sometimes. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing li

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2021-01-11 at 00:46 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 10. 01. 21 23:25, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 02:20:04PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > All this does is making it again harder to issue bug fixes for the very > > > > p

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
to be waiving results for every update, here. It would be a pretty rare occurrence. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2021-01-10 at 12:44 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:32 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2021-01-09 at 12:27 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 08.01.2021 23:24, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > I think we

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-01-11 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have anything urgent this week. If you're aware of anything important we have to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-10 Thread Adam Williamson
re permanently broken. For example rpminspect-pipeline - > filesize. > > It's okay when the size of the files in the package changes, but it > always fails. That's not an openQA test, so not in the scope of this proposal. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-08 Thread Adam Williamson
an update that isn't tested (this is unusual but does sometimes happen). Neither of these things happens terribly often. When one does happen, I treat it as a high priority to get it fixed or worked around and re-run all non-related tests that were affected by it. And, of course, we *can* waive failure

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-08 Thread Adam Williamson
o waive the failed test first, then push it. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/ci/gating/#_waive . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-01-08 at 03:08 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > So here's an idea I was thinking about over the RH shutdown: I propose > > we gate stable release critical path updates on the openQA tests. > > -1 > > We already enfo

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 22:35 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 07. 01. 21 18:25, Adam Williamson wrote: > > What do people think of this idea? Any questions? Thanks! > > I'd like to see the critpath definition up to date before we do this. > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/89

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 20:58 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 09:25:44AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > So here's an idea I was thinking about over the RH shutdown: I propose > > we gate stable release critical

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 11:23 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 18:48 +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Il 07/01/21 18:25, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > > > ...snip... > > > > > > Implementing this would be relatively simple, and wo

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 18:48 +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 07/01/21 18:25, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > > ...snip... > > > > Implementing this would be relatively simple, and would involve two > > things: adding some new bits to Fedora's greenwave policy d

Re: Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 09:48 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 09:25:44AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > So here's an idea I was thinking about over the RH shutdown: I propose > > we gate stable release critical path updates on

Proposal: gate stable release critical path updates on openQA test results

2021-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
email I'll be updating that test and re-running it. That should give you a flavor of how things go in general. What do people think of this idea? Any questions? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___

[Test-Announce] 2021-01-04 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-01-02 Thread Adam Williamson
where we're at. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 34 status and Changes 3. Matrix, redux 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Unify the GRUB configuration files location across all supported architectures (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-12-30 Thread Adam Williamson
as long as both cases exist. If anything this makes them more fragile: the more divergent paths a tool has to support, the more likely it is something will break. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net __

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 18:54 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:45 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > I wrote in the update that in my opinion the solution for this bug > > can't involve expecting add-ons to suddenly get re-signed en masse, o

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-28 Thread Adam Williamson
now: > > sudo update-crypto-policies --set FEDORA:32 > > PS: no need to cc me on posts to the list. :) It's not that something "didn't reach" Rawhide, either. The NSS maintainer intends nss in Rawhide to respect the system-wide policy by default. We need mstransky to patc

Re: Stale proven packagers

2020-12-23 Thread Adam Williamson
opefully packagers all have a passphrase, so you need the cert and the passphrase. The weakest point in the current system is really the FAS password. If you have a packager's FAS password you can change the ssh key associated with the account to another that you control, and the FAS password is also all

Re: Stale proven packagers

2020-12-23 Thread Adam Williamson
ntil new-FAS (based on AAA) is deployed. At that point I think it would make sense to require packager accounts to have a second factor, and require that second factor when getting a Kerberos ticket and when changing the ssh keys on the account. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter:

Re: Fedora CoreOS rawhide stream

2020-12-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-22 at 15:22 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 17:34 -0500, Jonathan Lebon wrote: > > We've recently started a rawhide "mechanical" stream of Fedora CoreOS > > (mechanical streams are streams that are meant for developers and that &g

Re: Fedora CoreOS rawhide stream

2020-12-22 Thread Adam Williamson
set openQA up to test this stream too. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Stale proven packagers

2020-12-22 Thread Adam Williamson
lose provenpackager privileges, which could quite easily be restored if it turned out they'd just gone on a yak farming retreat for a bit or something. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel maili

Stale proven packagers

2020-12-22 Thread Adam Williamson
of them decided they had a grudge against Fedora now and were going to have some fun), the results could be...unfortunate. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Enable spec file preprocessing (System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
development going on in OBS (afaik e.g. Igor exported all > Fedora Rust rpms to OBS for automated rebuilds) and enabling this > preprocessing will make these packages FTBFS in OBS. I mean, only if you're sourcing from dist-git? The .src.rpm will have the post-processed spec file

Re: Unannounced soname bump libldns.so.2() -> libldns.so.3()

2020-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
r version in git but not built; I bumped it back down to the last version that was actually built then did the rebuild on top of that, as I don't know if the newer version (it was an RC) was actually meant to go out yet, and pemensik's mail is auto-responding as OOO. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA I

Unannounced soname bump: ldns

2020-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
=57780927 Please remember to announce soname bumps ahead of time and arrange rebuilds of dependencies so this kind of problem can be avoided. Thanks. I will try and rebuild things, at least compose-critical things, now, but if straight rebuilds don't work might need people to help out. -- Adam

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
86_64 3.59.0-3.fc33 in today’s updates. Is this fixed or > are there going to be a lot of unhappy Firefox users? It's fixed. > The bug is still open. Because we still need to do something (or, rather, get Mozilla to do something) about the underlying situation. -- Adam

Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

2020-12-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 11:18 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:06:45AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > See I thought that too at first, and was going to cite it, but then I > > thought, wait. The problem isn't that the update *actually brok

Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

2020-12-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 10:48 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:01:19AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 12:37 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 15.12.2020 23:29, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > What you - as Fe

Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

2020-12-16 Thread Adam Williamson
edoraproject.org/job/fedora-ci/job/rpminspect-pipeline/job/master/2629/testReport/(root)/tests/_abidiff/ are OK. I don't know of a known failure case to check it's failing when it should, though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
ed of course. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Con

Re: What is the most time consuming task for you as packager?

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
the update text directly, separate from package commit messages and changelogs. For me, the description of "this update containing five new package builds" is completely different from the package-level description of any one of those new builds. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IR

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 17:59 -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 12/15/20 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 22:38 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:04 PM Alexander Ploumistos > > > wrote: > > > > > &

Re: heads up: nss 3.59 breaks firefox add-ons

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
igned with SHA-1 certs, but nss is now not accepting SHA-1 per the current system-wide policy. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: Reducing noise on devel list

2020-12-15 Thread Adam Williamson
you sign up for devel@ for *whatever* reason, you find out about these report emails because they start showing up in your mailbox. If we move them to a separate list which *won't* be linked all over the intarwebs, how will people know the reports exist? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Tw

Re: Rawhide users: don't update to 20201208.n.0 packages (fprintd 1.90.6), console login and su are broken

2020-12-12 Thread Adam Williamson
that compose you should be OK to install/update. If you want to be sure, wait another few hours first. The fixed versions are glibc-2.32.9000- 20.fc34 and fprintd-1.90.7-1.fc34 or higher (I think the compose got 8- 1.fc34). Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

Re: Pre-made live image with actual functioning persistent storage?

2020-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
95 for VFAT, but for ext[234] filesystems it is only limited by the available space." I have no idea when is the last time anyone tested this. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing

Re: Proposal: drop "Test installation media" from live media

2020-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
he 'troubleshooting' menu or whatever it's labelled there and have it not be the default, rather than remove it entirely? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- deve

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
der construction, of course.) > > It was started by the original founder of CentOS with the aim of going back > to the roots of CentOS, the way it worked before Red Hat started their > Embrace, Extend, Extinguish scheme. Off the record...there really wasn't one. It was an Embrace, Equivocate,

Re: Rawhide users: don't update to 20201208.n.0 packages (fprintd 1.90.6), console login and su are broken

2020-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 12:02 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 10:34 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > Just a heads up that the most recent Rawhide compose (20201208.n.0) > > seems badly broken; console login doesn't work and

Re: Rawhide users: don't update to 20201208.n.0 packages (likely glibc), console login and su are broken

2020-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 10:34 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey folks! > > Just a heads up that the most recent Rawhide compose (20201208.n.0) > seems badly broken; console login doesn't work and 'su' segfaults. I > think the most likely cause of these issues is the new glibc 2.32.

Rawhide users: don't update to 20201208.n.0 packages (likely glibc), console login and su are broken

2020-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
on updating, and especially on updating glibc, if you didn't do it already. If you've updated glibc you may want to downgrade it (if you still have a root shell somewhere :>) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.

Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
periodic lumps). For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running Rawhide. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net __

Re: Reducing noise on devel list

2020-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
rts for different things to different places, but they keep breaking because we keep changing what things we build, what we call them, and how we build them :/ -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel

Re: Reducing noise on devel list

2020-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
and I find it usefull to point out > things. > > Perhaps we could keep the traditional rawhide report, but send the > qa/compose test reports to another list? BTW, people do actually follow those reports even if they don't reply to them, because I get pings when they stop working :) -- Ad

Re: Fedora 34(m.p. all): root-auth Impossibilitybug found

2020-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2020-12-05 at 18:49 +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > BTW: whats the actual gnome bugzilla? gitlab.gnome.org . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Fedora 34(m.p. all): root-auth Impossibilitybug found

2020-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
n keyboard is actually built > into gnome-shell nowadays. The subject says "Fedora 34". So if it's different because of that, it's not that 33 fixed it compared to what Marius is seeing, but current Rawhide GNOME has it broken compared to what you're seeing... -- Adam Wi

Re: Reducing noise on devel list

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Williamson
oo. If anyone winds up trying to find out where we decide where to mail "compose check reports", this is it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/blob/master/f/inventory/group_vars/checkcompose checkcompose_emailto would be the thing to change. -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Rawhide Repo needs downgradeable packages

2020-12-04 Thread Adam Williamson
those as a local repo and its content will be available for downgrading. Of course, that server doesn't expect heavy traffic, so if lots of pinephone people start trying to do it at once, it might start choking. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassi

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 15:22 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I dunno when's the last time anyone tried without it, tbh. > > For CoreOS we spent a *lot* of time ensuring that Ignition has first class > SELin

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 14:43 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:36:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > (Personally I'm really proud that for example our Live ISO ships with > > > > SELinux enforcing) > > > This is true of Fedora Wor

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
ively restricted what "deployment" means, in terms of what gets deployed where and how. That gives it quite a big payoff in various ways in terms of how development and testing and release can be done. But we really don't have those options for the whole of the thing called "Fedora", no

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
esktop spin live ISOs as well. Yes, but the live installer runs 'setenforce 0' at the start then sets it back on exit. As long as the live installer is running, you're in permissive. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
More or less, yes - but with a key addition: "...and if so, how?" > > > > I feel that we already have the how, Fedora CoreOS has been releasing > fortnightly for more than a year now. > So it is a matter of making more widely known how this is done ? It's a matter of

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
ing FCOS must at all costs align with existing processes and schedules, when I was not saying that at all. I was just trying to outline the situation and the factors that need to be considered. I'll reply to the stuff from lower down, where you actually engaged with what I was actually saying, in

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
for a few reasons: I'm pretty sure I covered this in my original mail. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
g what to do about them. > How do you consider Rawhide for example ? Rawhide isn't an edition, which I think should be clear from the definitions above. Rawhide is sort of the primordial soup from which Editions and all else eventually emerges, I guess. :P > > > > All

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
on and two months after Fedora 34 is "released", our "stable" CoreOS is still Fedora 33-based, that seems like the sort of thing that would look bad. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
t of quiet and undramatic necessarily merits that, especially if we don't have clear replacements for its capabilities yet. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- deve

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
nal-go_no_go-meeting.2020-10-22-17.00.log.html [2]: https://github.com/release-engineering/productmd -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 34 Rawhide 20201201.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2020-12-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 21:30 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event > for Fedora 34 Rawhide 20201201.n.0. A note: this compose still has the systemd crasher bug. The next compose should have it fixed. -- Adam Will

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